Politics - Jason X

[Gfted1]

I was thinking about that very thing recently. Ive become so desensitized to bombings / shootings / running overs that it doesnt even really phase me anymore.

[smjjames]

I was thinking about that very thing recently. Ive become so desensitized to bombings / shootings / running overs that it doesnt even really phase me anymore.

 

That's the problem with terrorism, people get desensitized to them (beyond the initial immediate panic locally) to the point where it has no real effect, making the terrorism ineffectual. Of course, the terrorists don't realize that.

 

At this point, I think they're just bombing for the sake of bombing and killing people than any real goal.

[Malcador]

 

Improvised 'terrorist' bomb on packed London commuter train injures 22.

does anyone care anymore? They can make daily show out of this shuff

Well people local to the attacks do. People in other countries probably don't care that much.

[Chilloutman]

 

 

Improvised 'terrorist' bomb on packed London commuter train injures 22.

does anyone care anymore? They can make daily show out of this shuff

 

Well people local to the attacks do. People in other countries probably don't care that much.

 

How much local? I would guess that people living in countries hit by this would demand their leaders to do something about it, but as you can see in France or UK, they don't. Only people actually care are those who's friends and families are affected directly

[Gromnir]

have posted this elsewhere, but suicide, in most countries, is most significant reduced not by improving happiness or mental health, but by making the act less convenient.  serious.  historical biggest drop in US suicide rate coincided with the time when a switch from coal fire ovens to natural gas took place.  old movies or cartoons where you see a character stick his head in a cold oven were based on a genuine suicide epidemic, which dropped almost overnight by +25%.  recent suicide rate in the US has increased, direct coinciding with the increased numbers o' suicides by opioids/painkillers. suicide, the actual act, is statistical impulsive.  is the darkest kinda humor, but suicides is, for the most part, too lazy or cowardly to come up with complex methods o' self harm. being more generous, and more human, the conclusion is a suicide, given even a brief time 'pon which to reflect, general steps back from the proverbial brink.

 

make suicides drop is easy if you find a way to reduce availability o' handguns, opioids... and coal fire ovens.  'course such doesn't in any way solve the more fundamental mental health issues.

 

also don't address cultural norms and mores regarding suicide.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Malcador]

 

 

 

Improvised 'terrorist' bomb on packed London commuter train injures 22.

does anyone care anymore? They can make daily show out of this shuff

Well people local to the attacks do. People in other countries probably don't care that much.

How much local? I would guess that people living in countries hit by this would demand their leaders to do something about it, but as you can see in France or UK, they don't. Only people actually care are those who's friends and families are affected directly

As in your city and probably country. Are you sure people aren't demanding they do something about it that isn't theatre or overreach? Not in UK, so don't know. Not sure terror attacks are as passe as shootings in Chicago, so not too sure people are just going to shrug at it.

 

Is a separate thing from panicking as a result, at least in my mind.

[HoonDing]

Why hasn't Trump yet tweeted about Kim's latest rocket.

[Hurlshort]

I'm guessing every country is doing quite a bit to build security and stop terrorist attacks. Unfortunately it is a very difficult problem. You only need one wacko to pull it off. It would be a lot easier if we didn't live in a free society, but how much freedom are we willing to give up for the sake of security?

[Ben No.3]

Evidently, a lot.

[Eumaios]

https://studentloans.net/insane-repayment-survey/

 

kind of a funny survey of what students would do for all their student loans to be forgiven. I would take it with a grain of salt, but some of the people answering were undoubtedly serious. I've also read a headline about roughly half of the student population willing to give up their right to vote in order for student loan forgiveness.

 

Maybe the question isn't what people are willing to give up. It's what they're willing to do. If you're not willing to lift a finger to defend your own freedom, you're probably more than willing to give them up. If freedom isn't a large umbrella over the whole of society, then it doesn't exist at all.

 

I went to a (laughably pathetic) Trump rally near my house in California. I vacillate between hatred, fear, and confusion regarding President Trump, but I *did* vote for him (that explanation would take too long to relate here). Anyway, I didn't go because I felt strongly about his candidacy. I went because I have the freedom of expression and I'm damned if someone will cow me into silence. If someone wants to take a poke, or a shot, at me, so be it. Even better, I posted the pics on social media. However, while I never went to an anti-Trump rally, I have dear friends who viscerally hate the president and I offered to go with them to any such rally as moral support. Safe offer. A lot of hatred, but no one willing to make the trek. Out of all my friends, only one has been willing to canvas or work to help a campaign or volunteer in any way. While I love the kid, since he has plans of getting into politics you can't really say it's devoid entirely of self-interest. He's building a resume and contacts.

 

How much folks are willing to give up and how much they're willing to act are two sides of the same coin. The answer: way too much and hardly anything at all.

[redneckdevil]

Why hasn't Trump yet tweeted about Kim's latest rocket.

Hoping he finally learned how to act subtly by shutting up, I'm sure here in hours that will most likely be proven false.

Edited September 15, 2017 by redneckdevil

[smjjames]

Or more likely he just got distracted by other things, or took the hint that using tweets isn't the best way to deal with NK.

[pmp10]

 

Improvised 'terrorist' bomb on packed London commuter train injures 22.

does anyone care anymore? They can make daily show out of this shuff

 

Nobody died so that's hardly a great political fodder.

Besides I think people are starting to notice how ineffective Islamic terrorism really is.

A decade of terror in UK killed about as many people as a bad tower fire.

[Gfted1]

Besides I think people are starting to notice how ineffective Islamic terrorism really is.

A decade of terror in UK killed about as many people as a bad tower fire.

Thinking about this, why do you suppose this is? We read stories every month of some suicide attack at a market or mosque that produces atrocious casualties. We've got plenty of "soft" targets....do you think its just harder to get explosives in Western countries?

[Hurlshort]

Maybe it has to do with the quality of the Western terrorists. Have you watched Four Lions? Just because you took a four week course in Syria doesn't make you good at your jijob. 

[Rosbjerg]

[...] do you think its just harder to get explosives in Western countries?

 

Much much harder - and in general you need to keep a lot more quiet about it too, even white nationalists are under scrutiny now, after Brevik. 

That and the technical know-how is harder to cultivate in the west, the people who actually can help you, are less inclined to support terrorism. Or so the annual reports here in DK, that I've read, seem to indicate. I imagine it's similar in other western countries.

[injurai]

I think people underestimate how far the west has gone to defend against terrorism. People now think it's a negligible issue because they take for granted the measures, and further because they live where it doesn't affect them. If you look at the increasing string of attacks throughout the 90's and the culmination with 9/11, then things really fall into perspective. The patriot act didn't just come out of nothing, it's not just a cynical attempt to prey on the fud of the people. It's largely desperation with a massive slippery slope attached to it. People forget things like the people of Israel needing to live under the Iron Dome. The US has a high interest in providing protection for refugees, but also a high interest in maintaining a nation where they can easily integrate. Looking at Europe, their methods are far more questionable, and you wonder if integration is an actual goal or just a word that turns on some people on. People seeking occidentalization deserve to find it as a home, not ghettoized.

[Chilloutman]

Anyone with basic chemistry knowledge can make explosives. If suicide bombers have something similar its this - they are dumb

[Gfted1]

Trump may strip protections from 10 national monuments.

 

Smart. Why waste resources?

[HoonDing]

I'm pretty sure "Zinke" was the name of one of the Nazis in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[SonicMage117]

 

Well Suzy.. if our military didn't model formations based off formicidae behavioural patterns and anthopilia aerial-cryptograms, then I suppose we wouldn't have a military at all.

 

Congrats to 70 years of the airmen and airwomen who serve America May your wings continue to flap forevermore, forevermore... forevermore.

[Malcador]

Tuning into Trump's UN speech midway is confusing, he's calling for a revival of patriotism worldwide it seems.

Edited September 19, 2017 by Malcador

[Hurlshort]

This was pretty well done on both sides:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsx-P1IrIVA

[Ben No.3]

I just found out Stanislaw Petrow had been dead since May. Huh.

[HoonDing]

"Tuning into Trump's UN speech midway is confusing, he's calling for a revival of patriotism worldwide it seems."

 

he really can't go four sentences without contradicting himself