Politics Episode 8: WWF Edition

[Zoraptor]

 

Doesn't seem like all that much effort was needed (Reddit user being a careless moron, shock!), but certainly is weird that they'd waste time on it. Do get some satisfaction seeing some troll-type poster get squeezed a bit and buckling. Not sure why CNN would get banned from Reddit due to this,

 

I'd count cross referencing reddit and facebook as putting in a fair bit of effort, at least considering how little is usually put in.

 

I'd have a lot more satisfaction about a troll type buckling if it weren't CNN doing it and if the guy was more at fault. End of the day it's a wrestling gif that got exposure because Trump posted it, it was not an assault on the 4th estate and it is utterly trivial. Yet CNN is so self important that they had them tracking down its author as their lead item, and were both smug and hypocritical about it. Ultimately I end up preferring that something bad would happen to CNN, rather than some random redditor.

 

Theoretically, if a site doxs or threatens to dox a reddit user by trawling their posts it's a sitewide ban for them from reddit as punishment, theoretically it's about the worst infraction there is. Doesn't have anything to do with quality, it being reddit quality doesn't enter into things. Happened to Gawker, for example. Won't happen to CNN though, as all the CTR Shareblue bots would throw a fit about it.

[Blarghagh]

"cnn, or any other outlet choosing to publish his identity, would be well within legal and ethical rights to do so."

 

It's ethical to blackmail and dox people!

Gromnir himself said so on his own violition.

Just want to point that out, can be relevant later.

 

Ha! Good Fun!

Ethical =/= being within legal ethical rights?

[Gromnir]

didn't say anything 'bout blackmail, but yeah, to include the identity o' a newsworthy personage in a story is neither unethical or illegal.  feel free to repeat as we posted.  the gif were, thanks to the President, a national/international story.  the creator o' the gif became a newsworthy personage.  

 

"Another popular claim is that CNN threatened to “doxx” the man. That, too, is false. Doxxing involves publication of information such as a mailing address, phone number or email address that is designed to facilitate acts of intimidation. Simply publishing a person's name in a news report, if CNN were to do so, would not qualify as doxxing."

 

try and label as dox as if doing so transforms standard reporting practices into illegal or unethical is ridiculous.  

 

"cnn, or any other outlet choosing to publish his identity, would be well within legal and ethical rights to do so."

 

put it in your signature if you wish.  might be the only useful info in a sharp post, so go ahead and get use out of it with our blessing.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[HoonDing]

god forbid ppl cannot hide behind the internet cloak anymore and need to owe up to the drivel they post

[Elerond]

I know, seriously. Unless he is some cold blooded murder or has some major public job 9thoguh why would someone like that have time to do this) why would he  be scared?

 

I mean, seriously. All he did was edit some silly video. That happens ALL THE TIME. I'm sure I'm seen that same vid edited to mock Trump before tooo. Or like when he got  stunnered by Steve Austin I saw vid changing Austin to others - Ithink even Hillary Clinton pre election. LMAO

 

I would say that reason why CNN went after him was him publishing list names and pictures of all Jewish employees in CNN. 

[Elerond]

 

 

I know, seriously. Unless he is some cold blooded murder or has some major public job 9thoguh why would someone like that have time to do this) why would he  be scared?

 

I mean, seriously. All he did was edit some silly video. That happens ALL THE TIME. I'm sure I'm seen that same vid edited to mock Trump before tooo. Or like when he got  stunnered by Steve Austin I saw vid changing Austin to others - Ithink even Hillary Clinton pre election. LMAO

 

I would say that reason why CNN went after him was him publishing list names and pictures of all Jewish employees in CNN.

 

That is false as they found out about it AFTER they went after him. The reason was and always been that he is the author of the Trump wrestling CNN meme.

 

 

That list was posted all over twitter same day when Trump posted the meme

Edited July 6, 2017 by Elerond

[Namutree]

I'd feel bad but anything bad happening to a redditor is good.

 

 

Best post. 

[Zoraptor]

Dunno, seems to me that if you as a media entity whip up a frenzy yourself then throw someone's name out there in full knowledge that those you've whipped up will be out for blood then publishing a name is dox because you're doing it explicitly to threaten/ punish rather than inform. Funnily enough when Breitbart did similar things without the self interest they were gutter press inciting a mob per the usual suspects, but CNN is somehow just doing their job.

 

And it's perfectly obvious that CNN and their defenders are aware that it's dox as well- that, more than anything was what made their implied threat so abjectly moronic rather than merely childish because it takes away the defence of public interest and makes it clear that it was done to threaten or punish with public interest being a fig leaf. When the news organisation is the centre of a news story they have to be extremely careful with how they handle it, CNN's response is a case study on how not to handle it like a real journalism would.

 

Meh, only time 'CNN' and 'ethics' should be near each other is when 'lack of' is in the middle. Ironically, that's one thing they definitely have in common with Breitbart.

Edited July 6, 2017 by Zoraptor

[Malcador]

 

 

Doesn't seem like all that much effort was needed (Reddit user being a careless moron, shock!), but certainly is weird that they'd waste time on it. Do get some satisfaction seeing some troll-type poster get squeezed a bit and buckling. Not sure why CNN would get banned from Reddit due to this,

I'd count cross referencing reddit and facebook as putting in a fair bit of effort, at least considering how little is usually put in.

 

I'd have a lot more satisfaction about a troll type buckling if it weren't CNN doing it and if the guy was more at fault. End of the day it's a wrestling gif that got exposure because Trump posted it, it was not an assault on the 4th estate and it is utterly trivial. Yet CNN is so self important that they had them tracking down its author as their lead item, and were both smug and hypocritical about it. Ultimately I end up preferring that something bad would happen to CNN, rather than some random redditor.

 

Theoretically, if a site doxs or threatens to dox a reddit user by trawling their posts it's a sitewide ban for them from reddit as punishment, theoretically it's about the worst infraction there is. Doesn't have anything to do with quality, it being reddit quality doesn't enter into things. Happened to Gawker, for example. Won't happen to CNN though, as all the CTR Shareblue bots would throw a fit about it.

Really? To me CNN is middle of road for mainstream media in the US but Reddit is just a cancer. Didn't know they have an issue with sites doxing their users, kind of rich that they do. But alright. Not quite sure the wrong kind of shills are that much in charge of Reddit.

[Elerond]

 

 

 

 

I know, seriously. Unless he is some cold blooded murder or has some major public job 9thoguh why would someone like that have time to do this) why would he  be scared?

 

I mean, seriously. All he did was edit some silly video. That happens ALL THE TIME. I'm sure I'm seen that same vid edited to mock Trump before tooo. Or like when he got  stunnered by Steve Austin I saw vid changing Austin to others - Ithink even Hillary Clinton pre election. LMAO

 

I would say that reason why CNN went after him was him publishing list names and pictures of all Jewish employees in CNN.

 

That is false as they found out about it AFTER they went after him. The reason was and always been that he is the author of the Trump wrestling CNN meme.

 

 

That list was posted all over twitter same day when Trump posted the meme

 

As was all of his previous posts. That's the meaning of previous.

I'm saying that CNN were not familiar with his posts before they went after him.

They found his previous posts during their investigation they performed because he was the author of CNN wrestling meme.

Trying to spin it any other way is ridiculous.

 

It's like the police searching someone for weapon and finding drugs instead. Did the fact hey found drugs mean the reason for search was drugs, because they happened to found drugs? Of course not.

 

 

But how CNN wouldn't be familiar with his posts as his Reddit handle become known after people started to post in social media that same person whose wrestling meme Trump posted has made anti-Semitic posts (which made it possible that CNN and other were able to find information about him). But somehow CNN didn't know about those other posts when they went after him? 

[Elerond]

 

 

Doesn't seem like all that much effort was needed (Reddit user being a careless moron, shock!), but certainly is weird that they'd waste time on it. Do get some satisfaction seeing some troll-type poster get squeezed a bit and buckling. Not sure why CNN would get banned from Reddit due to this,

I'd count cross referencing reddit and facebook as putting in a fair bit of effort, at least considering how little is usually put in.

 

I'd have a lot more satisfaction about a troll type buckling if it weren't CNN doing it and if the guy was more at fault. End of the day it's a wrestling gif that got exposure because Trump posted it, it was not an assault on the 4th estate and it is utterly trivial. Yet CNN is so self important that they had them tracking down its author as their lead item, and were both smug and hypocritical about it. Ultimately I end up preferring that something bad would happen to CNN, rather than some random redditor.

 

Theoretically, if a site doxs or threatens to dox a reddit user by trawling their posts it's a sitewide ban for them from reddit as punishment, theoretically it's about the worst infraction there is. Doesn't have anything to do with quality, it being reddit quality doesn't enter into things. Happened to Gawker, for example. Won't happen to CNN though, as all the CTR Shareblue bots would throw a fit about it.

Really? To me CNN is middle of road for mainstream media in the US but Reddit is just a cancer. Didn't know they have an issue with sites doxing their users, kind of rich that they do. But alright. Not quite sure the wrong kind of shills are that much in charge of Reddit.

 

 

People are constantly doxed in Reddit and they don't seem to care much if they aren't threatened with lawsuit

[Namutree]

 

 

I'd feel bad but anything bad happening to a redditor is good.

Best post.

 

You preach no discrimination and equality with that mouth?

 

Yes. What of it?

[Zoraptor]

 

 

 

Doesn't seem like all that much effort was needed (Reddit user being a careless moron, shock!), but certainly is weird that they'd waste time on it. Do get some satisfaction seeing some troll-type poster get squeezed a bit and buckling. Not sure why CNN would get banned from Reddit due to this,

I'd count cross referencing reddit and facebook as putting in a fair bit of effort, at least considering how little is usually put in.

 

I'd have a lot more satisfaction about a troll type buckling if it weren't CNN doing it and if the guy was more at fault. End of the day it's a wrestling gif that got exposure because Trump posted it, it was not an assault on the 4th estate and it is utterly trivial. Yet CNN is so self important that they had them tracking down its author as their lead item, and were both smug and hypocritical about it. Ultimately I end up preferring that something bad would happen to CNN, rather than some random redditor.

 

Theoretically, if a site doxs or threatens to dox a reddit user by trawling their posts it's a sitewide ban for them from reddit as punishment, theoretically it's about the worst infraction there is. Doesn't have anything to do with quality, it being reddit quality doesn't enter into things. Happened to Gawker, for example. Won't happen to CNN though, as all the CTR Shareblue bots would throw a fit about it.

Really? To me CNN is middle of road for mainstream media in the US but Reddit is just a cancer. Didn't know they have an issue with sites doxing their users, kind of rich that they do. But alright. Not quite sure the wrong kind of shills are that much in charge of Reddit.

 

 

People are constantly doxed in Reddit and they don't seem to care much if they aren't threatened with lawsuit

 

 

Their dox policy is theoretically very strict, and its inconsistent application is always to favour, well, CNN types on the 'progressive' 'left'- SJWs, Goons (now there's cancer in website form) and the like. Normal people on the other hand get banned for leaving twitter handles in screengrabs and the like. Their major problem isn't doxxing, it's the rampant botting* and hence shilling on pretty much every subject. Meh, people are soft nowadays anyway, they'd melt like the special snowflakes they are if their alternative option was usenet.

 

*I pretty much only use reddit for their Syrian Civil War subreddit (don't post though, and not a member) and whenever anything big happens it gets invaded by US bots from Elgin AFB andor Russian bots andor JIDF, and it's blatantly obvious that it's happening. The infamously tone deaf HClinton linked Correct The Record (now Shareblue) basically runs their politics subreddit as well.

[Volourn]

https://www.facebook.com/MikeCernovich/videos/1237460153049701/

[Volourn]

https://www.facebook.com/SteveMilneNews/videos/1379295402185619/

[Volourn]

https://www.facebook.com/mikevscorner/videos/1100313356736236/

[Namutree]

 

 

 

 

I'd feel bad but anything bad happening to a redditor is good.

Best post.

 

You preach no discrimination and equality with that mouth?

 

Yes. What of it?

 

Nothing, I'm starting to develop indifference to hypocrisy on this forum, but sometimes it resurfaces. Carry on.

 

It's a joke, Sharp_one.

[redneckdevil]

volourn, im a sucker for memes and ty. those were a good laugh

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

 

 

 

I'd feel bad but anything bad happening to a redditor is good.

 

Best post.

You preach no discrimination and equality with that mouth?

Yes. What of it?

Nothing, I'm starting to develop indifference to hypocrisy on this forum, but sometimes it resurfaces. Carry on.

It's a joke, Sharp_one.

I was completely serious.

[Volourn]

"volourn, im a sucker for memes and ty. those were a good laugh :)"

 

 Heh.   CNN makes it easy b/c of how butthurt they got over a silly meme.

 

 

So.. I'll be waiting for CNN to try to threaten and bully me with a 'doxing'. It won't work CNN. I've 'doxxed' myself in the past nor am I ashamed of my online history. SO. BRING. IT. ON.

[Namutree]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd feel bad but anything bad happening to a redditor is good.

Best post.

You preach no discrimination and equality with that mouth?

Yes. What of it?

Nothing, I'm starting to develop indifference to hypocrisy on this forum, but sometimes it resurfaces. Carry on.

It's a joke, Sharp_one.

You didn't use the color font.

 

That's for sarcasm. That was legit the best post. Very funny.

[Raithe]

[Raithe]

[Gorgon]

 

 

 

 

 

I'd feel bad but anything bad happening to a redditor is good.

Best post.

 

You preach no discrimination and equality with that mouth?

 

Yes. What of it?

 

Nothing, I'm starting to develop indifference to hypocrisy on this forum, but sometimes it resurfaces. Carry on.

 

It's a joke, Sharp_one.

 

https://www.livescience.com/3634-conservatives-easily-disgusted.html

[Blarghagh]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd feel bad but anything bad happening to a redditor is good.

Best post.

 

You preach no discrimination and equality with that mouth?

 

Yes. What of it?

 

Nothing, I'm starting to develop indifference to hypocrisy on this forum, but sometimes it resurfaces. Carry on.

 

It's a joke, Sharp_one.

 

https://www.livescience.com/3634-conservatives-easily-disgusted.html

 

Thin skin snowflakes. Worse than people obsessed with safe spaces - instead of finding a space and keeping others out, they go into all spaces and chase others out!