Politics Episode 8: WWF Edition

[Wrath of Dagon]

Yes, it's totally the US fault for us having it so good everyone in the world wants to come here. Also I never said I blame those people, I mostly blame the government for refusing to enforce or even helping people break the law.

 

Edit: Trump isn't even doing "mass deportations". Leftists don't even want criminals deported.

Edited July 13, 2017 by Wrath of Dagon

[Blarghagh]

Yes, it's totally the US fault for us having it so good everyone in the world wants to come here.

Blame the tagline.

[injurai]

Edit: Trump isn't even doing "mass deportations". Leftists don't even want criminals deported.

 

Might be better to deport someone if it's the US prison system they are facing... speaking form a purely lefty utilitarian perspective that is...

[Wrath of Dagon]

They serve their sentences first, then get deported. At least in theory.

[HoonDing]

"Yes, it's totally the US fault for us having it so good everyone in the world wants to come here."

 

[Wrath of Dagon]

lol Anyway he's crying about pollution.

[Gfted1]

I'm so old that commercial was in active circulation on tv at the time.

[Gromnir]

On a scale of one to ten, what is your favorite color of the alphabet?

am aware some people see numbers as colors. synesthesia?  am not knowing much 'bout the "condition."  in any event, one s'poses is possible to see letters as colors as well, and regardless, letters may be expressed as numbers, so the question is not the kinda cheshire cat query gifted might have expected.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[injurai]

He's also Italian.

[Guard Dog]

Ben, Gorgon and others, I have not forgotten our conversation, I'll get back to it. The last 48 hours have been a very bad time for me.

 

Just a thought on the current news though. I'm not providing links, you can look for yourself. In the last few days stories have run that have link the Clinton Campaign, John McCain, various members of the Trump campaign including his son, a Republican Congressman from California, two Democrat Congressmen from New York, and the Obama DoJ and State Department have all been linked to various Russian nationals who may or may not be agents of it's government concerning "incriminating" political information on people the various actors here don't like/oppose. 

 

Assume there is a grain (at least) of truth in all of it. If Putin really wanted to undermine the US why do it with helping one party over the other? Why not help both against each other then let it slip that it happened? You can completely undermine the faith people have in all of their government (more than it already is). All you need is:

• 1 Evil genius intent on sowing chaos among his enemies. Check
• 2 political parties so arrayed against each other they will gladly accept a Faustian bargain and sell their souls for an advantage over the other. Check
• 1 Electorate divided down the middle that honestly believes one party is evil and the other is good. Check.

Just a thought.

[Gfted1]

am aware some people see numbers as colors. synesthesia?  am not knowing much 'bout the "condition."  in any event, one s'poses is possible to see letters as colors as well, and regardless, letters may be expressed as numbers, so the question is not the kinda cheshire cat query gifted might have expected.

 

HA! Good Fun!

And if they're anywhere, they're in this thread!

[Malcador]

On a scale of one to ten, what is your favorite color of the alphabet?

Depends on what colour background it is printed on.

[Blarghagh]

Should have said "depends on the sound of the background it's printed on".

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Should have said "depends on the sound of the background it's printed on".

The taste of the letters is far more important than that.

[Wrath of Dagon]

I'm so old that commercial was in active circulation on tv at the time.

I saw him in person one time.

[SonicMage117]

Your argument for thr inverse ratio of capitalization to debt was genius... Now if we just get congress to be so shortsided.

 

Just don't forget, that Americans populus is more of the reason for the country's debt than the actual government.

[injurai]

Your argument for thr inverse ratio of capitalization to debt was genius... Now if we just get congress to be so shortsided.

 

Just don't forget, that Americans populus is more of the reason for the country's debt than the actual government.

 

Are you counting the banks as part of the American populace?

[SonicMage117]

 

Your argument for thr inverse ratio of capitalization to debt was genius... Now if we just get congress to be so shortsided.Just don't forget, that Americans populus is more of the reason for the country's debt than the actual government.

 

 

Are you counting the banks as part of the American populace?

Everyone is equally guilty, I believe.

[SonicMage117]

 

 

 

Your argument for thr inverse ratio of capitalization to debt was genius... Now if we just get congress to be so shortsided.Just don't forget, that Americans populus is more of the reason for the country's debt than the actual government.

Are you counting the banks as part of the American populace?

Everyone is equally guilty, I believe.

if the common man actually had money, and if he wouldn't need to pay fortunes for such basics as decent education for his children, he'd be in a lot less debt. He isn't guilty, he was forced into his predicament.

NONSENSE!

 

There is no such thing as "rich man is power so the rich man controls all" that is just a cover-up for the blue-collarsand the low-income to feel entitled to have more of a say but all along. Listen to me brorher, the poor man is actually just as powerful if not more powerful than the rich. Times are changing and with that the voice of the people are even moreso than ever regardless of wht race, or income.

 

And then you have those who milk the disability/social security system... the very system was doomed fot abuse the very moment it availed. If I had a nickel for every family I knew om facebook who openly admits they steal money from social security just so they could be lazy and never work honestly, I'd literally be rich.

 

It's because of the lesser Americans making the wrong decisions that we are this way, we all suffer.... and instead of doing something about it hey repay their country with this. WITH THIS!!!

Edited July 14, 2017 by SonicMage117

[Gromnir]

 

just sayin'

 

HA! Good Fun!

[injurai]

blue-collar america: "but trump didn't require funding"

 

Yet he's been living unpayed loans and tax exemptions for his whole life, coasting on inflation and his family's wealth.

 

Inflation is half the reason why people stay poor or never pay back their taxes. Because they have to keep up with interest. Anything they can save or put away depreciates. Yet there debt does the opposite. It's great in the neoliberal sense of benefiting established critical infrastructure. But those who have stopped contributing anything just become a tumor at the top of society.

 

There is a huge difference between blue-collar working america and heroin-ally. You can't really blame the working class when their democratic rights are undermined by targetted media, preying on the fact that they don't have the time or capacity to grapple with their situation.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Working america is becoming heroin-alley though. The assumption that heroin-ally just happened to spring up because they weren't hard working enough ignores existing material conditions.

[SonicMage117]

I didn't even mention the rich; but now that you did... those blue collar workers are the reason that others are rich. Isn't that a bit strange?

No, it's not strange. This, my friend, is just one of the reasons why I say the lower class/poor have more power than the rich. This, in hindsight, just proved my main point.

The underclass has a say in US politics? Name me one president who didn't require heavy funding from rich individuals for his campaign from the past 50 years.

Why only call out the president? The president is just a puppet, there are bigger people over the president but people on the forums are too busy arguing on what they like and dislike about our President that they forget all the logic which they should be focusinf on but nobody ever wants to talk about that or acknowledge that the organzation is real.

https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=952_1316540677

show them to me. And don't just show me a random post... we both know that people say the most ludicrous things online. I have several studies that point out two things, 1. That poor people deny their poverty and try to look like their not poor and 2. That those people "milking" social services practically don't exist. Do you have any academic or otherwise better sources than "muh Facebook friends"?

The only reason why you mock my words is because you know what I'm saying is true.

 

No. I won't give you the names of the people who I know for a fact that are milking the system/commiting fraud for disability but it's not because I can't prove it, it's only because I wouldn't even trust anyone here enough to share my real name, let alone others on this crazy forum.

 

1. I can tell you right now, people don't deny that they are poor, especially ones who have mouths to feed and bills to pay. That's unrealistic, where in the world can you find these people that deny that try to trick people into being rich. Do you think people with sick children are going to stand by not asking for help? Why is GoFundMe.com filled with requests from the underclass to give them money? They will get mony anyway they can regardless of who they screw over to do it.

 

2. That's why it continues to happen lol I mean, it would be stopped if the goverment could do something about it right? Right but they do exist, they just are too many to record, charge, ect. It will probably end only when bigger changes are made years from now which defies how everything works today.

with this -> ☭★ ? They don't.

That's not relavant to what we've been discussing.

 

Now why other people are acting that I said the rich have it hard and the working or lower class have it easy, need to read my comments again. I stated no such things but this is a forum so..

Edited July 14, 2017 by SonicMage117

[SonicMage117]

You do seem to think though that people genuinely choose the lifestyle of "being poor and screwing over people". An interesting perspective on love you have there.

People will do what they have to survive, to keep a full stomach, or protect their children. That's the human nature. It's not that I want to single out the underclass for this but the rich have the money to pay while the poor peeps must scramble in desperation.

 

 

The rich man is rich so no need to screw over anyone for money, instead screwing people over with what he uses the money on and whilist getting to chose who he screws over while the poor young man does not- making the rich white hair man the lesser of the two evils imo.

[Orogun01]

 

You do seem to think though that people genuinely choose the lifestyle of "being poor and screwing over people". An interesting perspective on love you have there.

People will do what they have to survive, to keep a full stomach, or protect their children. That's the human nature. It's not that I want to single out the underclass for this but the rich have the money to pay while the poor peeps must scramble in desperation.

 

 

The rich man is rich so no need to screw over anyone for money, instead screwing people over with what he uses the money on and whilist getting to chose who he screws over while the poor young man does not- making the rich white hair man the lesser of the two evils imo.

 

I'm sorry but do you have a job? 

 

Because everyone that has worked a corporate job knows for a fact that the people on the top get rich by screwing everybody on the bottom. You got it ass backwards buddy; the poor people can only screw a few people at a time. The rich screw a bunch of them simultaneously, that's how they got rich/richer on the first place.

Source: an exploited worker