Gunman opens fire on GOP Congressmen

[Guard Dog]

Story developing: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/alexandria-virginia-shooting/index.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4603404/Steve-Scalise-aides-SHOT-baseball-practice.html

 

So far five people confirmed shot including the GOP House Majority Whip Steve Scalise. The shooter was shot and disarmed by the capital police. Apparently the shooter was targeting Republicans : http://theweek.com/speedreads/705653/rep-mark-walker-says-gunman-targeted-congressional-baseball-practice-kill-many-republican-members-possible

[Chilloutman]

pretty ironic

[HoonDing]

2nd amendment people

[Blarghagh]

Guns don't kill people. High velocity projectiles do!

[Chilloutman]

Guns don't kill people. High velocity projectiles do!

[Guard Dog]

From what CNN is reporting the shooter was armed with a Colt M4 carbine which is illegal to own in the US. So if true kindly take your sneering arrogance and shove it.

[Hurlshort]

It sounds like no casualties, thankfully. Hopefully this gets both parties to tone down the rhetoric. It is way too toxic right now on both sides.

[Gfted1]

^^ You should be used to it by now, its the "go to" low hanging fruit. Lemme give it a shot: "Knives dont kill people, having it inserted into your chest cavity does", "Vehicles dont kill people, using them as speed bumps does." Durrr, Im here all day. 

[Guard Dog]

It sounds like no casualties, thankfully. Hopefully this gets both parties to tone down the rhetoric. It is way too toxic right now on both sides.

Exactly correct Sir! All the shrieking, poop throwing monkey fights leads to this. People are being told that their fellow citizens with differing political opinions are their actual enemies. This is where that kind of b------t ends.

[Blarghagh]

You're just pissy because you're scared they'll take away your hobby. Gun-lovers are like nerds who don't want women in gaming.

[HoonDing]

let them keep their guns lest they bash each other's heads in with rocks

[Guard Dog]

You're just pissy because you're scared they'll take away your hobby. Gun-lovers are like nerds who don't want women in gaming.

No I'm not terribly worried about that. At least not for the next three years. It's the notion that "they had it coming" for supporting individual rights that sets me off. I'm hearing a lot of that today. I was hoping for better here.

 

You would think a gun showed up and did this all by itself.

 

The direction I saw this conversation going in my head is exactly what Hurlshot hit on.

Edited June 14, 2017 by Guard Dog

[Blarghagh]

Relax, I just like to poke fun at gun-culture. Remember, if you're not enough withoutit, you won't be good enough with it. :D

[Hurlshort]

Bit curious if the shooter will have a copy of Catcher in the Rye with him.

[Blarghagh]

I bet he still uses a VCR. We all know video tapes cause violence.

 

Or was it something else?

[Wrath of Dagon]

From what CNN is reporting the shooter was armed with a Colt M4 carbine which is illegal to own in the US. So if true kindly take your sneering arrogance and shove it.

Probably the civilian version of M4 carbine, i.e. semi-auto. There'd probably be a lot more casualties with the military version. Also, Fake News Central?

 

 

It sounds like no casualties, thankfully. Hopefully this gets both parties to tone down the rhetoric. It is way too toxic right now on both sides.

Not both sides, >95% on one side.

[Blarghagh]

I'd say on one alt-side.

[ShadySands]

Bit curious if the shooter will have a copy of Catcher in the Rye with him.

He did but since he's a male model he's never actually read it

[Gromnir]

 

You're just pissy because you're scared they'll take away your hobby. Gun-lovers are like nerds who don't want women in gaming.

No I'm not terribly worried about that. At least not for the next three years. It's the notion that "they had it coming" for supporting individual rights that sets me off. I'm hearing a lot of that today. I was hoping for better here.

 

You would think a gun showed up and did this all by itself.

 

The direction I saw this conversation going in my head is exactly what Hurlshot hit on.

 

gun control is one o' the favorite monsters democrats, northern democrats, likes to parade 'bout the town square.  is much lamenting the evils o' gun ownership as teary-eyed hand wringers ask why such violence must continue to be acceptable in 21st century america.  particular after a school shooting, where bodies o' dead children is getting 24/7 news exposure, democrats like to play to the fears o' their constituency. lasts a couple weeks.  maybe a month.

 

is an easy battle for democrats to fight 'cause is unwinnable. democrats know the gun violence debates is nothing more than sound and fury and they lose nothing by appearing to fight the good fight vs. an increasingly obtuse and heartless foe. democrats won't need to expend any political clout trying to pass meaningful legislation 'cause the Court and republican Congressmen will invoke the second amendment effective making any real gun violence legislation functional impossible. 

 

am personal in favor o' greater gun control, but am recognizing the 2nd amendment is a highly effective bar to meaningful change to gun control legislation.  worse, the most dangerous firearms, by an incredible large margin, is handguns as they is many times over the most likely firearm class to be used in homicides AND suicides.  handguns is also the weapon least likely to be the target o' meaningful gun legislation. even weeping democrats mourning over the bodies o' dead school children do not suggest taking handguns away from honest and god-fearing americans who wanna protect their homes and families.

 

*shrug*

 

republicans don't need to fight, but they do 'cause constituency expects 'em to.  democrats know they ain't gonna have to fight save for on tv and in newspapers.  is a stoopid issue.  is spectacle. use tragedy as spectacle is vulgar, but such is gun control debate in the US.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Probably pissed over that speech Scalise gave to white nationalists in 2002. So much for the tolerant left. Guess we're more spying to preserve liberty or something.

 

I'd say on one alt-side.

Fake news cuck, the alt-right is a movement of peace.

[Gorgon]

From what CNN is reporting the shooter was armed with a Colt M4 carbine which is illegal to own in the US. So if true kindly take your sneering arrogance and shove it.

Well, it wouldn't be enough to ban gun ownership, not to mention that gun classification just as often has no basis in logic. Banning would just be a tenuous start. In order to make availability go down most of the industry would have to go as well. The same for collectors and re sellers of all sorts. 

[Blarghagh]

Probably pissed over that speech Scalise gave to white nationalists in 2002. So much for the tolerant left. Guess we're more spying to preserve liberty or something.

 

 

I'd say on one alt-side.

Fake news cuck, the alt-right is a movement of peace.

Lol

[Guard Dog]

@Gromnir: Heller solved the issue for the most part. But the Court has been all over the map on this in the past. In the 1930's they ruled it wasn't an individual right for man facing gun charges because he wasn't in a militia and his weapon wasn't a "militia weapon". In the 1880's the decided the US Government could not restrict gun rights but the states could. But after Heller I stopped worrying about this for the most part. But what one Court does another can undo. So the danger is always there but it's way off down the road if it's there at all.

 

But I digress. Gun Control is not where I was thinking this should go.

 

In other news the shooter worked on Bernie Sanders campaign. Sanders is supposed to address the media  about it soon. He's in a tough spot. He is in no way responsible but still has to do the dance in front of the cameras.

[Malcador]

I am just hoping he doesn't turn out to be a Megadeth fan

[Wrath of Dagon]

@Gromnir: Heller solved the issue for the most part. But the Court has been all over the map on this in the past. In the 1930's they ruled it wasn't an individual right for man facing gun charges because he wasn't in a militia and his weapon wasn't a "militia weapon". In the 1880's the decided the US Government could not restrict gun rights but the states could. But after Heller I stopped worrying about this for the most part. But what one Court does another can undo. So the danger is always there but it's way off down the road if it's there at all.

 

But I digress. Gun Control is not where I was thinking this should go.

 

In other news the shooter worked on Bernie Sanders campaign. Sanders is supposed to address the media  about it soon. He's in a tough spot. He is in no way responsible but still has to do the dance in front of the cameras.

So does Sanders believe in the Revolution or not?