Politics Episode 7: Remake of Episode 4

[Valsuelm]

That article explains why Kalifornians love immigrants - much easier to take advantage and abuse them.  Just more  facts to show how bigoted, racist, and hateful Democrats are.

 

Eh... it's not just immigrants, nor is it just trucking.

 

Similar stories can be found throughout many industries. A product of many things, but the two primary drivers are often international 'free trade' and government regulation (especially the 'save the environment' kind). Both of which tend to serve the owners of industry one hell of a lot more than average Joe.

Edited June 17, 2017 by Valsuelm

[Gfted1]

You want to copy Sweden now do ya?

 

We've been doing that since the 70's!

 

I've mentioned it before, but still; Started as a DNA database for research, was used by the police to identify the killer of a politician, and now they're looking into actually allowing police to use it, and private insurance firms aswell. Good stuffs.

 

I remember that discussion about how you got yours removed from the database. I just think of the medical and crime fighting benefits and believe that should be the next step for society. Ill leave all the doomspeak to others. Hell, my method (taking samples at birth) would take generations to become effective, what I really want is an instant mandatory DNA collection of all citizens, but that would never fly.

[Valsuelm]

 

You want to copy Sweden now do ya?

 

We've been doing that since the 70's!

 

I've mentioned it before, but still; Started as a DNA database for research, was used by the police to identify the killer of a politician, and now they're looking into actually allowing police to use it, and private insurance firms aswell. Good stuffs.

 

I remember that discussion about how you got yours removed from the database. I just think of the medical and crime fighting benefits and believe that should be the next step for society. Ill leave all the doomspeak to others. Hell, my method (taking samples at birth) would take generations to become effective, what I really want is an instant mandatory DNA collection of all citizens, but that would never fly.

 

I'm not sure if you're seriously insane, ignorant, evil, or not serious at all. So well played there, maybe.

 

As for 'never'....

 

Never say 'never'.

[Blarghagh]

 

 

You want to copy Sweden now do ya?

 

We've been doing that since the 70's!

 

I've mentioned it before, but still; Started as a DNA database for research, was used by the police to identify the killer of a politician, and now they're looking into actually allowing police to use it, and private insurance firms aswell. Good stuffs.

 

I remember that discussion about how you got yours removed from the database. I just think of the medical and crime fighting benefits and believe that should be the next step for society. Ill leave all the doomspeak to others. Hell, my method (taking samples at birth) would take generations to become effective, what I really want is an instant mandatory DNA collection of all citizens, but that would never fly.

 

I'm not sure if you're seriously insane, ignorant, evil, or not serious at all. So well played there, maybe.

 

As for 'never'....

 

Never say 'never'.

 

 

Just to play devil's advocate, what is your objection to it?

 

(Also Gfted1 also obsessively wants to pilote remote control drones. I think he's into distopian futures.)

[redneckdevil]

I for one welcome the coming of the sixth world.

[Gfted1]

Ive been called 3/4 of those names, though never evil. Just a difference of viewpoints is all. Some see every situation and instantly envision what can go wrong, I'm envisioning what can go right. Somewhere in the middle is a balance?

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Ive been called 3/4 of those names, though never evil. Just a difference of viewpoints is all. Some see every situation and instantly envision what can go wrong, I'm envisioning what can go right. Somewhere in the middle is a balance?

You're evil. Enjoy your 4/4.

[Valsuelm]

 

 

 

You want to copy Sweden now do ya?

 

We've been doing that since the 70's!

 

I've mentioned it before, but still; Started as a DNA database for research, was used by the police to identify the killer of a politician, and now they're looking into actually allowing police to use it, and private insurance firms aswell. Good stuffs.

 

I remember that discussion about how you got yours removed from the database. I just think of the medical and crime fighting benefits and believe that should be the next step for society. Ill leave all the doomspeak to others. Hell, my method (taking samples at birth) would take generations to become effective, what I really want is an instant mandatory DNA collection of all citizens, but that would never fly.

 

I'm not sure if you're seriously insane, ignorant, evil, or not serious at all. So well played there, maybe.

 

As for 'never'....

 

Never say 'never'.

 

 

Just to play devil's advocate, what is your objection to it?

 

(Also Gfted1 also obsessively wants to pilote remote control drones. I think he's into distopian futures.)

 

 

My objection to mandatory DNA collection of all citizens?

 

I could list at least a few objections, but I'll stick to just this big one:

 

I'm a big advocate of individual freedom, and generally don't support government mandating much of anything.

 

In the U.S.. there certainly is no Constitutional authority for government to be mandating DNA collection of all citizens (not that this often matters much these days...).

[Guard Dog]

They can take my DNA the same way they can take my guns. From my dead, twitching corpse. The ammunition however I'll happily serve up as much of that as possible before then.

[Namutree]

They can take my DNA the same way they can take my guns. From my dead, twitching corpse. The ammunition however I'll happily serve up as much of that as possible before then.

If mandatory DNA collection became a thing, they'd likely ignore those already around and focus on taking DNA samples from infants from that point on.

[Terminator]

 

I would go one further, DNA samples taken at birth of every single person born in the US.

 

You want to copy Sweden now do ya?

 

We've been doing that since the 70's!

 

I've mentioned it before, but still; Started as a DNA database for research, was used by the police to identify the killer of a politician, and now they're looking into actually allowing police to use it, and private insurance firms aswell. Good stuffs.

 

Whatever I can live with that and I am from Finland and born in Finland though I have lived and worked both in Finland and Sweden. What I

don't need to Finland is the horrible immigrant open door policy of Sweden and some other laws. Now I do know that many Swedes are not fond of the Sweden system including some relatives of mine in Sweden. Finland has also gone to the worse regarding immigrant policy as most of Europe (some exceptions), but least some other laws like prostitution is better in Finland then Sweden. I absolutely support the Germany system regarding prostitution.

Edited June 19, 2017 by Terminator

[Azdeus]

Yeah, ofcourse you can, you're not affected by it since you're not born in Sweden.

 

For what it's worth, I also want prostitution legalized. I'm allowed to buy a woman dinner and drinks and have sex with her, but not allowed to give her the money directly. As long as a man decides where the money goes, it's ok.

[Ben No.3]

We have it legal around here.

[Chilloutman]

beware, last few seconds are annoyingly loud:

 

[redneckdevil]

It's legal if u feed or gift them first here.

[ShadySands]

Why the Supreme Court’s decision to review Wisconsin’s gerrymandering is such a big deal

[Guard Dog]

One nice thing about having Republicans in Congress is the small, unknown bills that roll back Big Brother in innocuous but meaningful ways are starting to move again. Like this one: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/2657/text What this does is get the USDA out of the mix and allow the State governments to regulate the process and sale of meat that is raised, processed and sold within State lines. The hope is it helps bring back locally owned and produced farming and ranching. 

 

In the late '60's President Johnson signed a law that made the USDA the ultimate arbiter of meat processing over the whole country. Like most things the government does it was well intentioned (I'm being really charitable here) but followed by a lot of bad unintended consequences. The USDA really hasn't proven up to the task. It's rules are arbitrary and inconsistently enforced and have driven up the cost to the point that private farmers and ranchers sold their herds and land to big Agribusiness. Like the Rancho Feeding Co. 

 

Unless you live in the US and really pay attention you might not have heard of Rancho Feeding Co. They were a beef business in California. It turns out they had a large number of diseased cattle. Rather than putting them down they processed them anyway. The very thing the USDA was supposed to be safeguarding against. The problem is the USDA inspector was romantically involved with one of the upper management at Rancho and the company also did what companies do: purchase political protection with large campaign donations to two California congressmen and the senior Senator from California, one Diane Feinstein. It took a plant employee going to CNN to blow this whole thing up. This is one of almost a hundred incidents of USDA malpractice over the last 30 years. They have also been used in a case in Florida during the '70s as a mafia like punishment to business for not making donations or supporting legislative measures. Yes the guilty were fired once this came to light. But it demonstrates that this kind of thing happens. Barack Obama was hardly the first political leader to weaponize the agencies of the Government for his own ends. 

Edited June 19, 2017 by Guard Dog

[Guard Dog]

In other news the Supreme Court released thier opinion on Matal v Tam yesterday. In an 8-0 decision the court ruled the government may not prohibit registration of trademarks that are offensive. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-rejecting-trademarks-that-disparage-others-violates-the-first-amendment/2017/06/19/26a33ffa-23b3-11e7-a1b3-faff0034e2de_story.html?utm_term=.e3300b9a27f3

 

Matal v. Tam was a challenge to a federal law prohibiting the registration of any trademark that may "disparage...or bring...into contempt or disrepute" any "persons, living or dead." The Patent and Trademark Office cited this provision in 2011 when it refused to register a trademark in the name of a band called The Slants. Justice Samuel Alito wrote "We now hold that this provision violates the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment," Alito wrote. "It offends a bedrock First Amendment principle: Speech may not be banned on the ground that it expresses ideas that offend."

 

Now this is a big deal because the government used this law to take the trademark of the Washing Redskins away. I expect their lawyers are working on that right now. Personally I don't see the sense in being offensive just for the heck of it. But I certainly don't like it when Big Brother tells them they can't. 

[Guard Dog]

 

Why the Supreme Court’s decision to review Wisconsin’s gerrymandering is such a big deal

 

 

I am curious to see how this plays out. It's my understanding that the state government has a lot of latitude in determining this kind of thing. 

[ShadySands]

Gerrymandering is one my personal issues that I like to speak out against (and do nothing else) every once in a while

 

On paper I kinda like California's system :ducks:

[Guard Dog]

What people need to realize is all those off year elections when the Presidency is not being decided, they count too.

[Elerond]

What people need to realize is all those off year elections when the Presidency is not being decided, they count too.

 

People also often underestimate how important local elections are. As city and state governances can have very big impact on how your everyday life will go.

[Wrath of Dagon]

The great cover-up continues: http://www.jammiewf.com/2017/when-narratives-collide-illegal-alien-murders-muslim-girl-media-censors-key-details/

 

Terrible about that girl.

[Volourn]

But... but... but.. we gotta trust the press. <>

[Malcador]

That was a funny line about Trump waiting for facts.