Guard Dog Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/26/americas/fidel-castro-obit/index.html Good riddance. 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
imaenoon Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Thank the Lord, God rest his soul. I feel cold as a razor blade, tight as a tourniquet, dry... as a funeral... drum... as it were...
Ganrich Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Finally 2016 took someone that I couldn't care less about.
Namutree Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Meh. "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
Agiel Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 I'll bet you Miami is going to be lit tomorrow night. Quote “Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.” -Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>> Quote "The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete." -Rod Serling
Meshugger Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 The guy surely outlived his allies and enemies. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Does this mean all the cubans in miami will finally go back? Edited November 26, 2016 by KaineParker 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Darkpriest Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 So now the US re-colonization of Cuba can start once again?
Namutree Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 So now the US re-colonization of Cuba can start once again? Yes. The elites in Cuba have wanted to transition to a market economy (China style) for a while now, and have been waiting for Fidel to die. Now that he's gone, the US will be helping the Cuban elites make the transition. The only roadblock is that Trump won the election, making what was a done deal a little unclear. Even so, the plan will go forward, and Trump will take credit even though it's Obama who deserves it. "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
BruceVC Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 So now the US re-colonization of Cuba can start once again? Yes. The elites in Cuba have wanted to transition to a market economy (China style) for a while now, and have been waiting for Fidel to die. Now that he's gone, the US will be helping the Cuban elites make the transition. The only roadblock is that Trump won the election, making what was a done deal a little unclear. Even so, the plan will go forward, and Trump will take credit even though it's Obama who deserves it. What do you mean by a market economy in respects to Cuba? China is primarily an export driven economy but since Davos last year they are trying to restructure there economy to consumer driven, meaning the citizens of China will be the main buyers of goods like many Western countries "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Namutree Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 So now the US re-colonization of Cuba can start once again? Yes. The elites in Cuba have wanted to transition to a market economy (China style) for a while now, and have been waiting for Fidel to die. Now that he's gone, the US will be helping the Cuban elites make the transition. The only roadblock is that Trump won the election, making what was a done deal a little unclear. Even so, the plan will go forward, and Trump will take credit even though it's Obama who deserves it. What do you mean by a market economy in respects to Cuba? China is primarily an export driven economy but since Davos last year they are trying to restructure there economy to consumer driven, meaning the citizens of China will be the main buyers of goods like many Western countries It will be a country who's economy is determined to a major extend by market forces. An economy where someone can go out, "buy" (more like rent, but let's not get too technical) land, an run a private business to sell goods and services to potential customers. Success will be determined by having the right connections to the government so they don't screw you over, and the basics of supply/demand. There will still be government services like healthcare, but to a major extent it will screw off of strictly controlling the lives, culture, and productivity of the average citizen. This will be done to dramatically increase productivity so the elites have more wealth to leech off of, and the increased prosperity they allowed to happen will give them swelled egos (even though all they're doing is not stopping people from making their own lives better). "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
Namutree Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Yet another old USA enemy dies peacufully of old age. Yep. Not that it bothers me; I'm not keen on killing national leaders. Not even hostile ones. Edited November 26, 2016 by Namutree "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
BruceVC Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Yet another old USA enemy dies peacufully of old age. The guy surely outlived his allies and enemies. Guys, Castros legacy is a failure.....the Cuban idea of socialism failed because it failed to sustain or grow the economy The last 20 years or so Cuba was funded by certain South American countries like Venezuela under Chavez who were determined to use Cuba as some sort of adversary to the West ....but why would we consider Cuba a real enemy to the USA? Lets not believe some false narrative that Cuba was an economic success story "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Namutree Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Yet another old USA enemy dies peacufully of old age. The guy surely outlived his allies and enemies. Guys, Castros legacy is a failure.....the Cuban idea of socialism failed because it failed to sustain or grow the economy His legacy will be one of success. Edited November 26, 2016 by Namutree "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
BruceVC Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Yet another old USA enemy dies peacufully of old age. The guy surely outlived his allies and enemies. Guys, Castros legacy is a failure.....the Cuban idea of socialism failed because it failed to sustain or grow the economy His legacy will be one of success. Success in what way? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Namutree Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Success in what way? He will culturally celebrated, and remembered fondly in Cuban history classes. A Cuba that isn't just a puppet state of the US will be what he is most remembered for. His socialist tendencies will be a detail, his desire for a truly independent Cuba is his legacy. "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
Barothmuk Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Guys, Castros legacy is a failure.....the Cuban idea of socialism failed because it failed to sustain or grow the economy.Having sanctions enforced on you by a global superpower tends to have that effect. Not that he was some shining example of socialism; he was in fact very much in the vein of the nationalist revolutionaries of the 19th century - he just draped his 'revolution' in red to cosy up with the Soviets. 1
Gfted1 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Hasnt Raul been running the show for a few years now anyway? Now all thats left to do is build a statue of Fidel, pointing out to the sea or something, and call it a day. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Meshugger Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Yet another old USA enemy dies peacufully of old age. The guy surely outlived his allies and enemies. Guys, Castros legacy is a failure.....the Cuban idea of socialism failed because it failed to sustain or grow the economy The last 20 years or so Cuba was funded by certain South American countries like Venezuela under Chavez who were determined to use Cuba as some sort of adversary to the West ....but why would we consider Cuba a real enemy to the USA? Lets not believe some false narrative that Cuba was an economic success story He made children happy, are you against happy children? 1 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
BruceVC Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 @ Baro, Namutree and others Can I ask you guys a serious question because I may be misunderstanding something When you guys talk about Cuba being a success why would you suggest that when the Cold War ended the ideological conflict of Capitalism vs Communism? The West won .....so surly that would indicate the ultimate failure of the Cuba social experiment ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Gfted1 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 What economy do they have? The population is smaller than that of the state 90 miles North. Maybe their society was good for Cubans? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
HoonDing Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 He killed less people than Nobel peace prize winner Oboma. 1 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
BruceVC Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 What economy do they have? The population is smaller than that of the state 90 miles North. Maybe their society was good for Cubans? There economy is weak and as I mentioned it had been subsidized for years by other countries When you say " good for Cubans " what do you mean? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
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