L4wlight Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) The Storm & Plague Caller is a slight variation of the good ol' Stormcaller Ranger.Thanks to WM II the Ranger Class has yet another great soulbound weapon to (ab)use and toy aroung with - the Twin Sting.And yet again it's a 5th level druid spell proc, which makes it so good for rangers:A freakin' 25% chance (!) to cast Plague of Insects on Hit or Critical Hit... Come on! I'm completely honest here. The weapon proc is "only" a modified version of the druid spell and is "only" single target (would be overpowered otherwise), but you can spread it to quite a few targets thanks to Driving Flight and it typically procs really fast.So forget about Persistence (o.k. not completely...)! Self-sustaining Predator's Sense (thanks to the RAW damage DoT of Plague of Insects) and Merciless Companion (thanks to the Sickening debuff) for your pet is now easier than ever before.The Spellbind of Deleterious Alacrity of Motion once per rest is the cherry on top of the cake and I better don't mention the huge improvment in the already great interrupting potential of the class. Even if your party members help you out by keeping Predator's Sense active through various DoT effects (which logically diminishes the use of Twin Sting a lot), inflicting Plague of Insects with Twin Sting and then switching on Stormcaller is always a damage gain - at least for single target damage on very sturdy or healthy targets.The reason why I see this build only as a slight variation of the plain Stormcaller Ranger is quite simple: we use Twin Sting only to set up our pet's damage, i.e. covering as many foes as possible with Plague of Insects, and then switch on Stormcaller for - most of the time - the rest of the fight (Plague of Insects has a base duration of whopping 30 seconds!).This build concentrates on...1) maximising the damage and uptime of our pet,2) maximising the amount of Stormcaller procs and3) disabling and interrupting our foes.Race, Pet and Background Race: Wood ElfThis build focuses on ranged attacks and Distant Advantage is golden for that! Another decent race worth mentioning is the Boreal Dwarf, but we'd loose 2 points of DEX this way.Pet: WolfThe wolf is probably the best pet for dealing damage, due to it's inherend high basic damage. Another pet woth mentioning is the Stag, which is great for AoE damage. In Parties which make frequent use of Combusting Wounds the stags Carnage Attack can be quite devastating, but I prefer the high single target damage of the wolf.Heritage: Deadfire ArchipelagoRule Number One: You can't have enough DEX with a Stormcaller Ranger!Background: Explorer or SlaveWe mainly choose them for the Surival skill point. Whether you take Explorer or Slave is dependent on which skill you want to push besides Survival. Personally, I'm for Explorer here, because Lore is great for every main character, as it opens quite some dialogue options. Attribute ScoresMin/ Maxed Build:MIG: 21 (18 base, +3 Girdle of Maegfolc Might) [+1 Gift from the Machine]CON: 3DEX: 26 (18 base, +1 Wood Elf, +1 Deadfire Archipelago, +3 Ring of Thorns, +3 Caed Nua resting bonus) [+1 Effigy's Resentment: Devil of Caroc, +1 Skaen's Boon]PER: 21 (18 base, +1 Wood Elf, +2 Helmet Of Darksee)INT: 17 (15 base, +2 enchanted armor)RES: 3More robust approach: MIG: 16 (13 base, +3 Girdle of Maegfolc Might) [+1 Gift from the Machine]CON: 8DEX: 26 (18 base, +1 Wood Elf, +1 Deadfire Archipelago, +3 Ring of Thorns, +3 Caed Nua resting bonus) [+1 Effigy's Resentment: Devil of Caroc, +1 Skaen's Boon]PER: 21 (18 base, +1 Wood Elf, +2 Helmet Of Darksee)INT: 17 (15 base, +2 enchanted armor)RES: 3Notes: THE most important Attribute for this build is DEX. This is due to the fact that we want to hit as fast as possible with Stormcaller to get as many Returning Storm Bolt procs as possible. PER is also important. One of our core approaches is to interrupt and disable our foes! INT is very handy in this build. It affects the stun duration of both Stunning Shots and Returning Storm Bolt. If this Ranger is your main character: Effigy's Resentment: Devil of Caroc (+1 DEX) is pretty good, because it gives +1 DR bypass too. Abilities (a=auto, !=important, ®=recommended) Distant Advantage (a)Wounding Shot ®Predator's Sense (!)Stalker's Link ®Driving Flight (!)Swift Aim ®Stunning Shots (!)Twinned Arrows (!)Defesive Bond (or Play Dead or Heal Companion or Revive Companion) Notes: Whether, or whether not, you repec out of Swift Aim is really a matter of play style and taste. I like to keep it, because I want to keep the phases in which I use Twin Sting as short as possible. If you hate too much micromanagement, I'd highly recommend to get rid of it at level 13. Talents (!=important, ®=recommended) Resilient Companion (!)Vicious Companion (!)Merciless Companion (!)Marksman ®Weapon Focus Peasant ®For the last three talent points, feel free to choose from the following pool:Heart of the StormApprentice Sneak AttackOutlander's FrenzyInterrupting Blows(Penetrating Shots)Notes: In my opinion there is not much room for Penetrating Shot in a Stormcaller build, because it slows down the proc rate of Returning Storm quite a bit. Another reason is that Rangers are already pretty talent starved. If you beg to differ, feel free to use it anyway. The same build can be used for Sagani. Recommended Progression1st level: Wounding Shot We take it mainly to activate Predator's Sense, especially early on. Later we have (Persistence and) Twin Sting for that and the use of the two Wounding Shots dimishes, but keep in mind that the two Wounding Shots keep beeing usefull for mid-fight target switches! Generally, once you unlocked the Plague of Insects proc of Twin Sting, respeccing into Marked Prey is a valid option, but I'd opt against it. 2nd level: Resilient Companion The pet delivers a big chunk our DPS (this holds true for all Ranger builds), so we are naturally interested in keeping it alive. It's important to understand that most of the pet's survivability comes from it's DR, which thankfully scales with your level (9 base, then 2 DR every 3 levels after). This talent further increases the pet's DR by 3 (plus 1 DR every 3 levels after). All in all, your pet will have 12 DR at level 2 and up to 27 DR at level 16. Not too shabby. Especially in the beginning, your foes will struggle to deal with that plate armor like DR and thus we take this talent as soon as possible. So with only one talent point, we get a decent enough off-tank and flanker. 3rd level: Predator's Sense Even considered that the true power of this build lies in the (ab)use of Stormcaller, the offensive potential of the pet shouldn't be ignored by any ranger. Especially in the beginning, when your ranger doesn't own both soulbound weapons and the proper key talents und abilities to make them shine, your pet will be the main damage contributor. That doesn't mean that the pet becomes weak later on. The pet is an important source of damage through the whole game. The main problem is the activation of this passive ability. Early on we are limited to two Wounding Shots. Before you own Twin Sting and Stormcaller, Persistence is your best friend - both damage wise and for preparing the enemy for your pet. Of course, depending on your party composition, you'll have no problem at all with keeping it active. (Notable Equip: Rotfinger Gloves) 4th level: Vicious Companion The first third of the game is all about the pet. We are in a very comfortable position here. Our pet carries us until we have our end-game weapons. Vicious Companion is a bit more reliable than Merciless Companion at this stage of the game. 15% more pet damage and 3 DR bypass more or less equals 30% more pet damage. 5th level: Stalker's Link Let's work a bit on our accuracy. Rangers are here once again in a very comfortable position, because we can use an ability to improve our accuracy and therefore we can afford to delay talents like Weapon Focus and Marksman. Vicious Aim would do the trick even better, but in order to get the most out of Stormcaller, we take Swift Aim at level 9 instead, until we get access to Twinned Arrows at level 13. 6th level: Merciless Companion Now it's time to finish the work on our pet. The pet will deal the maximum possible amount of damge now.7th level: Driving Flight Now it's time to prepare for Stormcaller and double our damage output against two or more targets. Our main approach here is to improve the proc rate of Stormcaller's Returning Storm Bolts on per attack (!) basis, and we basically double (!) it with this nice passive ability. It also helps us to spread Plague of Insects on more than one target. 8th level: Marksman or Weapon Focus or Heart of the Storm or Apprentice Sneak Attack or Outlander's Frenzy or Interrupting Blows Weapon Focus > Marksman ACC wise. Marksman is more versatile. Heart of Storm affects the damage of Returning Storm and hopefully the damage of Stormcaller itself soon too. Outlander's Frenzy could save you from becoming addicted to Potion of Deleterious Alacrity of Motion. Interrupting Blow is always nice on a high PER character, even more with Driving Flight.9th level: Swift Aim We are running out of meaningful alternatives anyway and it improves the proc rate of Stormcaller even further. Our main approach here is to improve the proc rate of Stormcaller's Returning Storm Bolts (until we get Twinned Arrows) on per hit (!) basis. Later on, it even shortens the amount of time we need to land Plague of Insects with Twin Sting. You are free to respec out of it at level 13, because it does not stack with Twinned Arrows. If you use Twin Sting a lot (like me), you can even keep it. You just have to switch between the two modal abilities like you do with the two weapons. 10th level: Marksman or Weapon Focus or Heart of the Storm or Apprentice Sneak Attack or Outlander's Frenzy or Interrupting Blows 11th level: Stunning shot A great addition to our CC arsenal, but keep in mind that in order to make Stunning Shot work, you have to attack the same target as your pet. So coordinate your attacks accordingly. Superior to Takedown and Master's Call in almost every single way. 12th level: Marksman or Weapon Focus or Heart of the Storm or Apprentice Sneak Attack or Outlander's Frenzy or Interrupting Blows13th level: Twinned Arrows Now the fun begins. Once again we double (!) the proc rate of Returning Storm per attack (and Stunning Shots too of course).14th level: Marksman or Weapon Focus or Heart of the Storm or Apprentice Sneak Attack or Outlander's Frenzy or Interrupting Blows15th Level: Defesive Bond or Play Dead or Heal Companion or Revive Companion Doesn't really matter. Choose what complements your play style the most.16th level: Marksman or Weapon Focus or Heart of the Storm or Apprentice Sneak Attack or Outlander's Frenzy or Interrupting BlowsEquipment (! = important, ® = recommended): Weapon 1: Stormcaller (!)Weapon 2: Twin Sting (!)Head: Helmet of DarkseeNeck: Stalker's Torc ®Armor: Clothing (Durgan Refinded, Pierce Proofed, Intelligence +2)Belt: Girdle of Maegfolc Might (or Sentinel's Girdle or Broad Belt of Power)Rings: Ring of Thorns ® & Ring of ProtectionHands: Gauntlets of Swift Action (!) (or Gauntlets of Accuracy or Rotfinger Gloves)Boots: Glanfathan Stalking Boots ® (or Boots of Speed or Greenstained Boots) Notes: I never felt the need for it, but Coil of Resourcefulness smoothens the switching between Stormcaller and Twin Sting quite a lot. It is also a good item, if your ranger is the mechanic guy of the party and you like using traps, which thematically fits rater nice into the rangers niche. Helmet of Darksee is nice because nobody else uses it typically. Durgan Refined Angio's Gambeson is also worth mentioning (Deleterious Alacrity of Motion once per rest), but I'd switch it out for clothes after the spellbind is exhausted. Rotfinger Gloves are a nice tool for activating Predator's Sense. Edited March 21, 2016 by L4wlight 14 SHARKNADO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderboss Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) Very nice build , with alacrity , high dex , and gloves this ranger is closing to almost no recovery like the melee builds Edited March 20, 2016 by Blunderboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDubya Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Would it be better to have your MC Ranger use one of the weapons and Sagani use the other? 1.) Keeping a DoT effect going on whomever your pet is attacking is the key to getting lots of damage. 2.) Keeping Stormcaller firing quickly is the key to proc'ing Returning Storm 3.) You can't do both #1 and #2 at the same time....... I like the use of Twin Stings and maximizing the pet damage, it makes for a nice thematic change from the typical Stormcaller twin arrows build. But then it shoehorn's in the Stormcaller build on top of it all. If you went all in with Twin Stings - Knight weapon focus, Swift Aim for the big reload boost, Gunner for even faster reloads and Interrupting Blows to make use of the big interrupt from crossbow, would that be better? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L4wlight Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) If you like to have two Rangers in your party, then yes, it sure would be better to specialize your MC on Stormcaller and Sagani on Twin Sting. They'd make for a damn good duo! But my party usually has only space for one Ranger (be it my MC or Sagani) and a standard Stormcaller Ranger has all it needs to use Twin Sting effectively (besides Gunner, which is only usefull if you use Twin Sting all day long). Remember that the Weapon Focus does not matter at all, because they're both universal weapons. Besides that, the proc rate of Plague of Insects (a very long lasting DoT) is really high and you only need to reload Twin Sting after every second shot. So you typically start your fight with Twin Sting and Swift Aim and you can switch to Starcaller/ Twinned Arrows right after Plague of Insects procced, which is most of the time even before the reload time comes into play (at least it felt that way on average). Btw the pet deals increased damage after the first shot of Twin Sting, because it also comes with a small raw DoT. For mid fight target switches you also have two Wounding shots. For really long lasting targets it's also nice to keep the raw DoT of Plague of Insects rolling. It's a nice addition. Nothing more. Yes Twin Sting is only the gimmic in this build. The star is Stormcaller. Edited March 20, 2016 by L4wlight 1 SHARKNADO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Two rangers rock. I didn't know the Plague from Twin Sting does only single target damage. Weird stuff... Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilfazer Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 11th level: Stunning shot A great addition to our CC arsenal, but keep in mind that it only works on targets also attacked by our pet! I think you should test it just one more time, with Driving Flight and Twinned Arrows. Just to be extra sure Vancian =/= per rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L4wlight Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Probably bad wording from me. I meant to say that in order to make Stunning Shot work, you've to attack the same target as your pet. I know that the secondary target(s) get affected too. SHARKNADO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneCommander Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I never had a ranger in my group before (except Sagani, for a short time) and I have a Stormcaller now. I appreciate your detailed guide here. Nice build! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNice Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Very cool build, thank you for the guide. For a single Ranger in the party it might be worth going for Island Aumaua and use Twin Sting + Stormcaller + Persistence. That way you have the benefit of opening with Twin Sting and the versatility of Stormcaller/Persistence, against stun immune mobs or powerful single targets/bosses. Edited September 18, 2016 by GuyNice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheingold Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Very cool build, thank you for the guide. For a single Ranger in the party it might be worth going for Island Aumaua and use Twin Sting + Stormcaller + Persistence. That way you have the benefit of opening with Twin Sting and the versatility of Stormcaller/Persistence, against stun immune mobs or powerful single targets/bosses. Only problem with that route is one character ends up hogging the 2 best bows. It would work if the Ranger is the only ranged party member otherwise it's kinda a waste. "Those who look upon gods then say, without even knowing their names, 'He is Fire. She is Dance. He is Destruction. She is Love.' So, to reply to your statement, they do not call themselves gods. Everyone else does, though, everyone who beholds them.""So they play that on their fascist banjos, eh?""You choose the wrong adjective.""You've already used up all the others.” Lord of Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 May I ask why Peasant Focus is needed, since Stormcaller is a Soulbound and does not need a specific Weapon Focus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Presumably because before you get it you'll be using a non-soulbound hunting bow (persistence), and after you only use soulbound weapons so it didn't matter which one you take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) What do you mean? It works with any weapon focus, but you need to take one if you want to get +6 ACC. You could also take WF Adventurer and use a war bow until you get Stormcaller. But if you want to stick to a hunting bow until you find it then WF Peasant will be your best pick. Edit: those ninjas these days... Edited September 23, 2017 by Boeroer 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 What do you mean? It works with any weapon focus, but you need to take one if you want to get +6 ACC. You could also take WF Adventurer and use a war bow until you get Stormcaller. But if you want to stick to a hunting bow until you find it then WF Peasant will be your best pick. Edit: those ninjas these days... Yeah, I wanted to use Borresaine until Stormcaller, because I thought that was the best bow for the CC Ranger? Also, is Stormcaller really better than Borresaine, if your primary purpose is CC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) What is a CC ranger? If your primary purpose is CC, then better not bring a ranger. If you want to combine good ranged weapon dps and great CC, take a cipher instead. Works great with Stormcaller, too. Edited September 23, 2017 by Boeroer 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 What is a CC ranger? If your primary purpose is CC, then better not bring a ranger. If you want to combine good ranged weapon dps and great CC, take a cipher instead. Works great with Stormcaller, too. Cipher required too much micro though. Hmm, what about a ranged Chanter? This was my initial choice, but I think Dragon Thrashed won't apply much on the enemy back-line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwillystyle Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I spent some time building what I thought of as the ultimate "low micro" party. That included two rangers - Sagani as a Stormcaller Ranger and a hireline NPC as a Plaguecaller Ranger. Twice is nice with less micro overall. Overall party was: PC Kind Wayfarer Zahua (the AI is *solid* for monks) Hiravias (the only character with meaningful micro) Kana Chanter Sagani Stormcaller Hireline Plaguecaller Add a few scrolls for various immunities / hard counters and you're good to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Can you suggest a party that works well with this crew? Must it have a Druid to exploit the shock damage? Also, roughly where should the Ranger and the pet be positioned in terms of formation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampros Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I spent some time building what I thought of as the ultimate "low micro" party. That included two rangers - Sagani as a Stormcaller Ranger and a hireline NPC as a Plaguecaller Ranger. Twice is nice with less micro overall. Overall party was: PC Kind Wayfarer Zahua (the AI is *solid* for monks) Hiravias (the only character with meaningful micro) Kana Chanter Sagani Stormcaller Hireline Plaguecaller Add a few scrolls for various immunities / hard counters and you're good to go. Hmmm, I thought Rangers were a mid- to high- micro class due to the pet? One of the main reasons I have not used them yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ymiraku Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 What is a CC ranger? If your primary purpose is CC, then better not bring a ranger. If you want to combine good ranged weapon dps and great CC, take a cipher instead. Works great with Stormcaller, too. Cipher required too much micro though. Hmm, what about a ranged Chanter? This was my initial choice, but I think Dragon Thrashed won't apply much on the enemy back-line? Micromanagement is one of the things that makes the game really fun on hard and PoTD. Maybe try a smaller party of no more than four and then you can focus more on getting the most out of each party member. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaven Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) Is this build still viable? Makes me getting greedy wanted to start the next build with a Ranger. Also, putting too many points on dex does it has diminishing returns? Edited October 4, 2017 by Archaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 No, every point more will speed up your attack animation and your remaining recovery as well as reload. Even if you already have 0 recovery your animation will still get shortened. DEX is a multiplicative damage modifier to auto attacks - other than MIG which is only additive (but helps with DR). 2 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braven Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) Is this build still viable? Makes me getting greedy wanted to start the next build with a Ranger. Also, putting too many points on dex does it has diminishing returns? Dex has slightly diminishing returns the farther away from 10, but it is a very slow diminish and for this build it’s benefits are so great that it doesn’t matter. Also different stats are intrinsically more effective in different situations and stages in the game. I think it is more helpful to look at how stats synergise with playstyle, equipment, and abilities than just comparing raw values. More speed means more stunning storms which is more beneficial than, say, a little more damage or healing from might for the effectiveness of this build. Edited October 6, 2017 by Braven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomic Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Never used Twin Sting, now I wanna... According to a wiki, one of the Twin Sting unlocks involves killing 3 "gold nameplate" NPCs. Those are all peaceful backer NPCs, right? Won't I lose rep for picking a fight with one of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) There are several ones that you can kill without the loss of reputation and without bystanders to turn hostile: - moon godlike east of Eothas' Temple (drops first plate in the game) - human middle west in Woodland Trails, under the plateau where you can find Hearth Harvest and all those lions guarding it - Visceris, human druid with a stag helmet in Copperlane. Here you have to time it right that no citizen or justiciar comes near, but it's not hard to do it. There are a lot more, but those three first come to mind. Edited October 6, 2017 by Boeroer 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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