WDeranged Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I find it quite distasteful when someone is banned from travelling to the UK because of their beliefs, Trump is a boorish loon but I can't support the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I have a mental image of Yakety Sax playing at the end of every parlimentary discussion and they chase around a mockup of Donald "The Meanie" Trump. Aside, today in 1924, the late great Benny Hill was born. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The Labour leader said it would be better to engage with Trump, who has made inflammatory comments about Mexicans, gay people, women, Muslims and other groups, than exclude him from the country. Corbyn you sly devil. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Looks like the Bern will stump the trump.Clinton will win, obnoxious liberals will praise this as a victory for progressivism, the right will be emboldened to support even stupider and more destructive economic policies, and the moderate to far left will continue to be completely irrelevant all the while being blamed for everything. More than likely, but I'm still holding out for Sanders v. Trump with Sanders grabbing the popular vote but Trump winning due to electoral tomfoolery. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 As non-american I must say that Bernie is joke. Trump too, but at least he is funny I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Banning Trump from the UK would certainly show him that he is wrong on immigration. By targeting singular person that has accused to done something that should prevent him to come in UK instead of putting in general ban for all Americans for example? EDIT: Is this you saying that you don't support any form of bans for any people when it comes to matters of immigration? Or are you just saying that it is choice between no bans or banning whole groups of people? I was trying to use sarcasm to point out the irony of the situation. In other news: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-21/trump-fear-stalks-davos-as-elite-pray-for-spring-reality-check The World economic forum in Davos seems to fear Trump. Oh, those poor global elites. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Speaking of economics, and having too much free time on my hands today, I decided to do a little napkin math: So there are 650 MP's in the House of Commons Each makes approximately £86,000 / year 650 x 86000 = £55,900,000 / year £55,900,000 / 365 days per year = £153,150 / day So it costs the good citizens of the UK £153000 per day for their elected officials to hurl petty schoolyard insults. That could buy a lot of upper lip stiffener! I hope the reach the conclusion that he is a Poopyhead and Boogereater before they spend too much. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Notice which two major candidates who are not on the list. 1 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Mayor Carcetti and Jim Webb? "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Those Wall Street donors would have gotten a better return on the money they gave Bush if they had just lit it on fire. 4 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 A good article, a great article. http://theweek.com/articles/599577/how-obscure-adviser-pat-buchanan-predicted-wild-trump-campaign-1996 Sooner or later, as the globalist elites seek to drag the country into conflicts and global commitments, preside over the economic pastoralization of the United States, manage the delegitimization of our own culture, and the dispossession of our people, and disregard or diminish our national interests and national sovereignty, a nationalist reaction is almost inevitable and will probably assume populist form when it arrives. The sooner it comes, the better… "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 A good article, a great article. http://theweek.com/articles/599577/how-obscure-adviser-pat-buchanan-predicted-wild-trump-campaign-1996 Sooner or later, as the globalist elites seek to drag the country into conflicts and global commitments, preside over the economic pastoralization of the United States, manage the delegitimization of our own culture, and the dispossession of our people, and disregard or diminish our national interests and national sovereignty, a nationalist reaction is almost inevitable and will probably assume populist form when it arrives. The sooner it comes, the better… Is the point of this article supporting Trump or is it against him? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 It's remarking on the success Trump has had running with nationalist rhetoric with some riffs lifted from leftist economic rhetoric and how an advisor to Pat Buchanan recommend doing so about twenty years ago. You can say something similar about Sanders, given his focus on better conditions for workers and it shows with him polling better among folk the Democrats normally don't get. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 It's remarking on the success Trump has had running with nationalist rhetoric with some riffs lifted from leftist economic rhetoric and how an advisor to Pat Buchanan recommend doing so about twenty years ago. You can say something similar about Sanders, given his focus on better conditions for workers and it shows with him polling better among folk the Democrats normally don't get. Thanks for clarifying KP....sometimes I don't get some of the political commentary or views I read "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'm curious if Bernie is getting any sort of boost from refusing to engage in negative politics. Thats believed to be what drove Trudeau to victory in Canada. Rather than launch his own attack campaign he took all the Conservative attacks, and turned them around into positive things, and people responded to it. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'm curious if Bernie is getting any sort of boost from refusing to engage in negative politics. Thats believed to be what drove Trudeau to victory in Canada. Rather than launch his own attack campaign he took all the Conservative attacks, and turned them around into positive things, and people responded to it. It's interesting because I was talking with a few friends about this earlier and most of them, who are also of the same mindset as I am, like that he doesn't go negative and more or less keeps it above board but there were a few others who thought he was weak or not serious because he doesn't go on the attack. Granted those friends don't support him at all and generally vote for the other major party. Those who thought it was a positive didn't think that it was enough to seriously sway their votes but those who thought it was a negative thought of it as a serious flaw. I can't say if it follows a larger pattern or not but among the ~8 of us that's how it shook out Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I think it's a strategy to paint himself as an outsider who wants to help the working class while establishment politicians are more interested in political theatre. He's drawing a lot of people so clearly something that he's doing works. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'm curious if Bernie is getting any sort of boost from refusing to engage in negative politics. Thats believed to be what drove Trudeau to victory in Canada. Rather than launch his own attack campaign he took all the Conservative attacks, and turned them around into positive things, and people responded to it. It's interesting because I was talking with a few friends about this earlier and most of them, who are also of the same mindset as I am, like that he doesn't go negative and more or less keeps it above board but there were a few others who thought he was weak or not serious because he doesn't go on the attack. Granted those friends don't support him at all and generally vote for the other major party. Those who thought it was a positive didn't think that it was enough to seriously sway their votes but those who thought it was a negative thought of it as a serious flaw. I can't say if it follows a larger pattern or not but among the ~8 of us that's how it shook out I think it's a strategy to paint himself as an outsider who wants to help the working class while establishment politicians are more interested in political theatre. He's drawing a lot of people so clearly something that he's doing works. I have to admit I am very concerned with Sanders popularity...he does threaten a Clinton presidency "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Bruce I just can NOT fathom this infatuation you have with Hillary Clinton. A more toxic and unlikeable human being I simply could not imagine. If there was a single other viable candidate running for the Democratic bid (and there is a good reason why there isn't) she would be in distant second right now. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Bruce I just can NOT fathom this infatuation you have with Hillary Clinton. A more toxic and unlikeable human being I simply could not imagine. If there was a single other viable candidate running for the Democratic bid (and there is a good reason why there isn't) she would be in distant second right now. She is like american Merkel xD 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 "I'm curious if Bernie is getting any sort of boost from refusing to engage in negative politics. Thats believed to be what drove Trudeau to victory in Canada. Rather than launch his own attack campaign he took all the Conservative attacks, and turned them around into positive things, and people responded to it." Kiddin' right? Trudeau and his lackies were all about fearmongering. LMAO DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Bruce I just can NOT fathom this infatuation you have with Hillary Clinton. A more toxic and unlikeable human being I simply could not imagine. If there was a single other viable candidate running for the Democratic bid (and there is a good reason why there isn't) she would be in distant second right now. Its not so much Clinton I like but she wants to continue the fundamental policies of Obama which are about ensuring a more equitable society and a stronger more significant middle class. Also she isn't planning anything radical that may impact the USA economy, like Sanders and his dislike of big business and the financial sector And that doesn't mean she plans to target people like you ....your commitment to the overall economy and people like you are the foundation of what the USA is built on and despite right wing rhetoric this will never change Bruce I just can NOT fathom this infatuation you have with Hillary Clinton. A more toxic and unlikeable human being I simply could not imagine. If there was a single other viable candidate running for the Democratic bid (and there is a good reason why there isn't) she would be in distant second right now. She is like american Merkel xD No I respect Merkel more "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Hilary Clinton is evil. If you cna't see that you are delusional. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Hilary Clinton is evil. If you cna't see that you are delusional. Evil is a man made construct., I dont believe is such things "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) A good article, a great article. http://theweek.com/articles/599577/how-obscure-adviser-pat-buchanan-predicted-wild-trump-campaign-1996 Sooner or later, as the globalist elites seek to drag the country into conflicts and global commitments, preside over the economic pastoralization of the United States, manage the delegitimization of our own culture, and the dispossession of our people, and disregard or diminish our national interests and national sovereignty, a nationalist reaction is almost inevitable and will probably assume populist form when it arrives. The sooner it comes, the better… The article is spot on, all over the West people have finally realized the elites have betrayed them. The conservative movement is now really corporatists, only worrying about the well being of fat cat corporations. Edit: Back when Buchanan ran, the issues were really different. We saw liberals as the big problem, after the disaster that was Jimmy Carter. Reagan got things going overnight, so conservatism was riding high. We didn't see the seeds of destruction that were already there, like the 1986 amnesty (even though Buchanan did). Also Buchanan was kind of scary, always defending old nazis and admiring hitler's foreign policy. Besides the closest equivalent to Trump back then was Ross Perot, who actually did quite well. I think Buchanan actually run later as the candidate of Perot's Reform party, and Trump wanted to run in 2000 in the same party, but there was some kind of issue with Buchanan. So this has been brewing for a while. Edited January 23, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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