Guard Dog Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 There is an old saying "Don't allow the perfect to become the enemy of the good". The Republicans are long known for their failure to follow this nugget of wisdom. In fact I think Monday was an example. It's nice to see the Dems are not immune: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/clinton-sanders-2016-democrats-great-divide-213585?lo=ap_d2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 One idea I love for Trump is to pick Fiorina.No one likes her, nurse Ratched has a warmer and more genuine personality. Interesting and accurate analysis of Cruz: http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/the-top-10-things-you-need-to-know-about-ted-cruz/ America under Sanders: http://www.hoover.org/research/enemy-state Down with the kulaks -er- billionaires! "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) One idea I love for Trump is to pick Fiorina.No one likes her, nurse Ratched has a warmer and more genuine personality. Interesting and accurate analysis of Cruz: http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/the-top-10-things-you-need-to-know-about-ted-cruz/ America under Sanders: http://www.hoover.org/research/enemy-state Down with the kulaks -er- billionaires! Well the idea there is that Trump is nominated has an outside shot of winning California in a general election. If that were possible it would be huge, stupendously huge. He could lose three of the five swing states and still win if he takes California. If it is possible a VP pick from there might help. There are few reliable conservatives who have statewide office or any personality clout in CA and I don't know if she even meets that description but she does have name recognition there and she completes the square on the whole "outsider" motif he's shooting for. Edited February 4, 2016 by Guard Dog "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 America under Sanders: http://www.hoover.org/research/enemy-state Down with the kulaks -er- billionaires! Obligatory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 One idea I love for Trump is to pick Fiorina.No one likes her, nurse Ratched has a warmer and more genuine personality. Interesting and accurate analysis of Cruz: http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/the-top-10-things-you-need-to-know-about-ted-cruz/ America under Sanders: http://www.hoover.org/research/enemy-state Down with the kulaks -er- billionaires! Well the idea there is that Trump is nominated has an outside shot of winning California in a general election. If that were possible it would be huge, stupendously huge. He could lose three of the five swing states and still win if he takes California. If it is possible a VP pick from there might help. There are few reliable conservatives who have statewide office or any personality clout in CA and I don't know if she even meets that description but she does have name recognition there and she completes the square on the whole "outsider" motif he's shooting for. Not sure how good Fiorina's political capital is in California, since she failed to beat Barbara Boxer. But I can see the appeal. She definitely fits the Trump style of coming from big business. She's a better choice than Palin, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Guys as much as I like Sanders his populist views around restructuring and reforming big business and the financial sector in the USA concern me immensely.... Lets not mess with a core foundation of the USA economy. Wall Street is self-regulating and is already highly scrutinized and punished if necessary by institutions like SEC We shouldn't want more government interference in this sector "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namutree Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Wall Street is self-regulating and is already highly scrutinized and punished if necessary by institutions like SEC Bruce, have you been huffing paint? Edited February 4, 2016 by Namutree 1 "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Wall Street is self-regulating and is already highly scrutinized and punished if necessary by institutions like SEC Bruce, have you been huffing paint? http://www.americanbanker.com/gallery/fine-predicament-bank-penalties-settlements-in-2015-so-far-1074827-1.html No I'm at work and I am perfectly lucid There have been numerous fines imposed globally on various banks and investment firms. You can't expect the likes of JP Morgan or Barclay's to now close down because of financial irregularity committed by some of there staff....lets be reasonable and not "throw the baby out with the bath water " The link I have provided should tell you just some of the overall penalties imposed "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Someone with good MS Paint skills replace "Bernie Sanders" with "BruceVC"Already done. Bruce is more then welcome to correct but I'm pretty sure he is not a social democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namutree Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Wall Street is self-regulating and is already highly scrutinized and punished if necessary by institutions like SEC Bruce, have you been huffing paint? http://www.americanbanker.com/gallery/fine-predicament-bank-penalties-settlements-in-2015-so-far-1074827-1.html No I'm at work and I am perfectly lucid There have been numerous fines imposed globally on various banks and investment firms. You can't expect the likes of JP Morgan or Barclay's to now close down because of financial irregularity committed by some of there staff....lets be reasonable and not "throw the baby out with the bath water " The link I have provided should tell you just some of the overall penalties imposed While throwing out the baby with the bath water would be a mistake; we've yet to throw out the bath water at all. "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Someone with good MS Paint skills replace "Bernie Sanders" with "BruceVC"Already done.Bruce is more then welcome to correct but I'm pretty sure he is not a social democrat. He's mentioned a few times that his ideal is "a mix of capitalism and socialism like the nordic countries" which from what I've been able to understand is Capitalism with a welfare state. That's social democrats, or at least what they do when they're in power. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) America under Sanders: http://www.hoover.org/research/enemy-state Down with the kulaks -er- billionaires! Obligatory Unlike the kulaks I've got assault rifles. Edit: A long profile of Rubio: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/marco-rubio-profile-213275 The good stuff starts in the middle of page 5. Even an incident portrayed in "Scarface". Edited February 5, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Someone with good MS Paint skills replace "Bernie Sanders" with "BruceVC"Already done.Bruce is more then welcome to correct but I'm pretty sure he is not a social democrat. He's mentioned a few times that his ideal is "a mix of capitalism and socialism like the nordic countries" which from what I've been able to understand is Capitalism with a welfare state. That's social democrats, or at least what they do when they're in power. Well yes in an ideal world I think the Nordic countries offer the best balance of socialism and Capitalism for any government But can a system like that be realistically implemented in a place like the USA? I doubt it as most Republicans are opposed to the concept of " big government interference" ....so even though I support the Nordic system of government it can't be implemented everywhere "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 More horror stories from the Republican side of the fence. Somebody said that Rubio was a moderate? He's much, much further out on the fringe. Kasich is probably the only moderate in the Republican primary, by the way. You know something is ****ed up when you realize you prefer Bush III above the current "establishment choice" (Rubio), and that the leading establishment candidate's strategy is worse than Cruz' vague statements that he would "carpet bomb" ISIS "until the desert glows green". "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Someone with good MS Paint skills replace "Bernie Sanders" with "BruceVC"Already done.Bruce is more then welcome to correct but I'm pretty sure he is not a social democrat. He's mentioned a few times that his ideal is "a mix of capitalism and socialism like the nordic countries" which from what I've been able to understand is Capitalism with a welfare state. That's social democrats, or at least what they do when they're in power. Well yes in an ideal world I think the Nordic countries offer the best balance of socialism and Capitalism for any government But can a system like that be realistically implemented in a place like the USA? I doubt it as most Republicans are opposed to the concept of " big government interference" ....so even though I support the Nordic system of government it can't be implemented everywhere The Nordic model does not work in the US for the reason of it being Nordic, as in it is a natural extension of the mindset in the countries there. As in it is taboo show off your riches; when making important decisions you always discuss it with your teammates before reaching final decision, uncontrollable joy is only acceptable when being drunk and it's important to feel shame on others behalf so that they can be really ashamed of themselves. None of those traits exist in the US or even remotely exemplify the american way of life, and that's why you cannot just insert the same kind of system there and expect the same results, because you won't. 2 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Someone with good MS Paint skills replace "Bernie Sanders" with "BruceVC"Already done.Bruce is more then welcome to correct but I'm pretty sure he is not a social democrat. He's mentioned a few times that his ideal is "a mix of capitalism and socialism like the nordic countries" which from what I've been able to understand is Capitalism with a welfare state. That's social democrats, or at least what they do when they're in power. Well yes in an ideal world I think the Nordic countries offer the best balance of socialism and Capitalism for any government But can a system like that be realistically implemented in a place like the USA? I doubt it as most Republicans are opposed to the concept of " big government interference" ....so even though I support the Nordic system of government it can't be implemented everywhere The Nordic model does not work in the US for the reason of it being Nordic, as in it is a natural extension of the mindset in the countries there. As in it is taboo show off your riches; when making important decisions you always discuss it with your teammates before reaching final decision, uncontrollable joy is only acceptable when being drunk and it's important to feel shame on others behalf so that they can be really ashamed of themselves. None of those traits exist in the US or even remotely exemplify the american way of life, and that's why you cannot just insert the same kind of system there and expect the same results, because you won't. Interesting assessment "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Unlike the kulaks I've got assault rifles. Edit: A long profile of Rubio: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/marco-rubio-profile-213275 The good stuff starts in the middle of page 5. Even an incident portrayed in "Scarface". He admits that "Sleepless in Seattle" is his favourite movie on page six. So if my spidersenses are correct, the guy is a humongous fruitcake trying to overcompensate for his Cuban machismo upbringing. No wonder the guy is an easy target for various interest groups and unscrupulous individuals who has no doubt some interesting dirt on him. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Well yes in an ideal world I think the Nordic countries offer the best balance of socialism and Capitalism for any government But can a system like that be realistically implemented in a place like the USA? I doubt it as most Republicans are opposed to the concept of " big government interference" ....so even though I support the Nordic system of government it can't be implemented everywhere The Nordic model does not work in the US for the reason of it being Nordic, as in it is a natural extension of the mindset in the countries there. As in it is taboo show off your riches; when making important decisions you always discuss it with your teammates before reaching final decision, uncontrollable joy is only acceptable when being drunk and it's important to feel shame on others behalf so that they can be really ashamed of themselves. None of those traits exist in the US or even remotely exemplify the american way of life, and that's why you cannot just insert the same kind of system there and expect the same results, because you won't. Interesting assessment Things are the way it is because it is the way it is. If it wasn't the way it is, it wouldn't be the way it is. Where's my nobel prize in political science. Also Clinton being booed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Cruz couldn't be more untrustworthy if he was named Mendoza. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Things are the way it is because it is the way it is. If it wasn't the way it is, it wouldn't be the way it is. Where's my nobel prize in political science. Also Clinton being booed Its very immature to boo any political candidate..people must grow up and at least have the respect to allow people to debate and raise there points....unless there is booing of candidates like Trump, then its okay "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Its very immature to boo any political candidate..people must grow up and at least have the respect to allow people to debate and raise there points....unless there is booing of candidates like Trump, then its okay I believe that IQ, like energy, is constant. The more people you add to a mob, the less there is to go around to each individual 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Bernie closes 30-point lead after Iowa 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 I saw a bumper sticker today "Make a Democrat Cry: Be Happy" "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Hillary Clinton has said that she never, ever changed her opinions due to being massively funded by Wall Street interests. Well, that is quickly debunked. And to think that there are people who do not consider this particularly serious. There are huge and powerful organizations funding politicians, organizations who have the power to turn over the economy, and whose interests come at the expense of the taxpayers in the form of bailouts and tax loopholes. What interest do they have in funding candidates other than swaying these politicians to their side, or paying for the rise to power of one who is already their shill? If you don't think that there is a serious risk for a deficit in democracy here, then you deserve a corrupt society. There's a reason why the financial crisis in the US was handled in a way unlike any other country. In Iceland, the bankers who were behind senseless speculation are behind bars, and their politician enablers are voted out of power. In the US, the public pays out of the taxpayer's pocket for the bailouts, and the politicians behind this are still slithering through the corridors of power. In Sweden, during the financial crisis in the early nineties, banks were nationalized and then re-privatized without any loss to the taxpayer. Why can't the US do better than any of these countries? Why do Americans keep voting for the same people who brought them carte blanche-socialism for big companies, the Iraq War, the Patriot Act, and so on? "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Somebody said that Rubio was a moderate? He's much, much further out on the fringe.Meh, as usual he's lying about most of his positions for the primary. The comparison to GWB is a good one. 1 "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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