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Well, isn't there a topic about that yet? Maybe it's my own or the forum's forum searching skills that let me down here, but anyway:

Psychonauts 2 is on the way :D I am so looking forward to seeing this come to life! Even if it's on a Doublefine schedule for 2018, meaning it will appear around christmas 2020, hehe, but I don't care because one day, I'll play it and enjoy its quirky goodness.

 

Oh, crowdfunding here: https://www.fig.co/campaigns/psychonauts-2

Meaning: Feargus is into it as well.

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I'm broke anyway, so i can't give him anything even if i wanted.


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I must have missed something... I just found out that Tim Schafer is one of the most hated people in the gaming industry.  Seems like a lot of people are saying they ain't giving a dime to that douchebag. 

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Eh, he's not a complete lost cause on the scale of a Peter Molyneux, but definitely needs to be kept on a very tight leash.

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I must have missed something... I just found out that Tim Schafer is one of the most hated people in the gaming industry.  Seems like a lot of people are saying they ain't giving a dime to that douchebag. 

 

I don't think he's hated. People just don't trust him with money.


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Fantastic! I can't wait for half a game and a fundraiser to finish the rest of it!


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It's interesting how views on him have changed since the Broken Age ks started. Though I am not 100% sure if it's solely because he can't really work with money or because he openly supported this anti-gg stuff.


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The only real thing that puts Double Fine offside with me is Spacebase and how early it was abandoned. Broken Age was late and Massive Chalice had no great depth, but neither I feel could be characterised as a scam or any other word the more vociferous critics may use.

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It's interesting how views on him have changed since the Broken Age ks started. Though I am not 100% sure if it's solely because he can't really work with money or because he openly supported this anti-gg stuff.

A little from column A and a little from column B?  For me, personally, it's probably 90% column A.  Yeah, I wasn't thrilled about Schafer's "jokes" and comments during the whole GG thing, but he's still a legitimately talented and creative video game designer, or, at least, he was.  I mean, Schafer has been involved in some of my favorite games ever, games that have brought me much joy.  For me, the money/project management is a much bigger concern.  I just don't think he can manage money/resources/time, and not in a malicious trying to scam people take the money and run way, but rather in a he's a poor manager of resources and he can't make the hard and unpleasant but necessary sacrifices way.  It's kind of funny, but with a lot of developers many gamers, myself included, imagine a beautiful utopia where they are freed from the shackles of their publisher and allowed to make all the calls on their own.  With Schafer, I imagine a beautiful utopia where he's back under the thumb of a publisher with someone to keep him on track and to make the hard decisions for him.

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I want this to succeed and be good.  With that said, Tim Schafer gets exactly zero dollars from me in advance.

 

Ha, my feelings exactly.  I'll hang back and pay for this the old fashioned way if it turns out well.

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Broken Age was delivered and got good reviews, right?  So what did he do with Broken Age that made people say they would not trust him with their money?

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Broken Age was delivered and got good reviews, right?  So what did he do with Broken Age that made people say they would not trust him with their money?

With Broken Age, they have delivered a game people didn't quite expect, but was pretty good nonetheless, so by itself that would not undermine my trust in Double Fine. With Massive Chalice, they delivered a pretty decent game and what was promised, so by itself that would not undermine my trust in Double Fine. With Spacebase DF9 however, they released a game into Early Access where they charged money for the product and then released it in completely unfinished state, abandoned development and did not allow for any refunds and that would sort of undermine my trust in Double Fine unless everything else they did in the past was excellent. Which, as far as I'm concerned, it wasn't. So I wouldn't trust them with my money. I 100% agree with what Keyrock said: I'm cheering for Double Fine and want Psychonauts 2 to be amazing, but I would never trust them with my money.

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Broken Age Act 1 had an interesting story but really easy puzzles.  Act 2 had somewhat harder, though uninspired, puzzles and the story completely fell apart.  Basically, story wise, Act 1 was "cool, I can't wait to see where this goes next!" and Act 2 was "This is where it went? *sigh*".
 

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Broken Age was delivered and got good reviews, right?  So what did he do with Broken Age that made people say they would not trust him with their money?

 

Took too long to make and sucked a bit too much, basically.

 

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Looks like he's getting more of my money either way  :dancing:

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Broken Age was delivered and got good reviews, right?  So what did he do with Broken Age that made people say they would not trust him with their money?

With Broken Age, they have delivered a game people didn't quite expect, but was pretty good nonetheless, so by itself that would not undermine my trust in Double Fine. With Massive Chalice, they delivered a pretty decent game and what was promised, so by itself that would not undermine my trust in Double Fine. With Spacebase DF9 however, they released a game into Early Access where they charged money for the product and then released it in completely unfinished state, abandoned development and did not allow for any refunds and that would sort of undermine my trust in Double Fine unless everything else they did in the past was excellent. Which, as far as I'm concerned, it wasn't. So I wouldn't trust them with my money. I 100% agree with what Keyrock said: I'm cheering for Double Fine and want Psychonauts 2 to be amazing, but I would never trust them with my money.

Yup, this is my sentiment. I had no issue with Broken Age (I didn't expect the same wonder and amazement I got with Schaefer's previous titles) (haven't played Massive Chalice), but Spacebase made me wary of anything Double Fine has their hands on. Funny enough, I thought it was the best and most interesting thing they had going, and to abandon it really made me wonder what they were thinking. The way they did it irked me. It was a total abuse of Early Access IMHO, and what is a Kickstarter but a really, really, really early access. Pay now, and wait to play.

 

Sorry, if you fumble enough I won't fund you. Hairbrained schemes just got my money for Battletech, and that is because they delivered with Shadowrun. InXile got my money because they delivered (WL 2 at launch was ok at best, but the DC is pretty great. I didn't really have time to play it until the DC was out). If Obsidian hits crowdfunding again? I'll get their back. Double Fine? Double Take. Ironically, the Spacebase ordeal made me feel like I was Double Fined. <terrible pun, but worth it.

 

I wish the best for Psychonauts 2, but I will only buy if it releases and has solid reviews. I don't like Schaefer's politics, but I don't like Ted Nugent's politics at the best of times and I still like to jam to some Stranglehold. I would support him if He didn't have a history of rocky delivery or backing out of Early Access.

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No way am I giving Double Fine my money, lol.

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Well if anything, Double Fine's pitch videos have been pretty good compared to most other crowd-sourced games.


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Well if anything, Double Fine's pitch videos have been pretty good compared to most other crowd-sourced games.

Schafer knows how to appeal to the masses, I'll give him that.

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Well if anything, Double Fine's pitch videos have been pretty good compared to most other crowd-sourced games.

Schafer knows how to appeal to the masses, I'll give him that.

 

 

I thought the thing with his games was that they don't appeal to the masses.


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They're 'fun' videos I guess, they utilize humor to come off as appealing.
 

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The videos may be nice, but not nice enough to justify supporting a half-made game with easy gameplay and bad writing.


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Broken Age was delivered and got good reviews, right?  So what did he do with Broken Age that made people say they would not trust him with their money?

With Broken Age, they have delivered a game people didn't quite expect, but was pretty good nonetheless, so by itself that would not undermine my trust in Double Fine. With Massive Chalice, they delivered a pretty decent game and what was promised, so by itself that would not undermine my trust in Double Fine. With Spacebase DF9 however, they released a game into Early Access where they charged money for the product and then released it in completely unfinished state, abandoned development and did not allow for any refunds and that would sort of undermine my trust in Double Fine unless everything else they did in the past was excellent. Which, as far as I'm concerned, it wasn't. So I wouldn't trust them with my money. I 100% agree with what Keyrock said: I'm cheering for Double Fine and want Psychonauts 2 to be amazing, but I would never trust them with my money.

 

 

Did they not also get way more money than asked and that lasted them for Broken Age part 1 only and there was a risk they may not even be able to finance part 2?

 

Which brought in all sorts of questions like how come with even way more money they barely managed. Or how much did it cost to hire well known Hollywood actors and was that really necessary.

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