Guard Dog Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 This is a long article. But it is interesting in the conclusions they draw. I'll sum it up this way "Don't read to your children. It enhances their development and puts the children whose parents don't interact with them at a disadvantage" It is interesting to note that rather than encourage all parents to interact with and enhance the development of their children they would rather discourage those who do to apologize to the children of the ones who don't. That is social justice in a nutshell. Reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator. http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/philosopherszone/new-family-values/6437058 11 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Rather depressing article, I want my children to excel personally. My little ones love the Sagas of Thor and Loki that i've been reading them (with a few minor edits,) the only problem is finding new material. I think I may soon broach A Wizard of Earthsea by LeGuin. 4 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Disappointed. I thought this would be about something like "don't read to your children, let them read themselves instead". That would pretty much sum up my childhood. 4 "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Children whose parents read to them are more likely to enjoy reading themselves when they learn how. I can't imagine a better gift to give your kids than that. 9 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Now, now. We all know that it is better to spread misery equally than trying to make a better world through a positive feedback loop starting from home. 4 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I was largely unsupervised as a child when it came to my fathers library, and though I may have read a few books at far too early an age, such as the Silmarillion, Lord Foul's Bane, a glut of Moorc*ck, and some of the more graphic Ancient Greek classics, I don't regret it one iota. Though my shortsightedness is a constant irritant that renders the world into a blur without my trusty spectacles, the worlds within my mind are bright and vivid as when I first read of them. I regard it as a fine foundation for a child, to hear of morality, philosophy and adventure that piques the intellect. Though I respect teachers as an undervalued profession, I believe that one must give them the right ingredients to mold, and half that work is done at home. 3 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 My grandmother read 'Animal Farm' as a bedtime-story when i was 9/10-ish. She thought that it had a good message for kids growing up. She was a teacher. 4 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 "‘I don’t think parents reading their children bedtime stories should constantly have in their minds the way that they are unfairly disadvantaging other people’s children, but I think they should have that thought occasionally,’ quips Swift." Weird way to view things, they're not "disadvantaging" others - just trying to do what parents are to do, improve their kids. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 It's the parents who don't read to their kids that are disadvantaging those kids. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) My father had the best idea ever. He told me that I was too young to read a number of the books in the house. Naturally this guaranteed I read them at the first opportunity! However, I agree with GD. What the hell is wrong with society, where it's considered wrong to achieve excellence?? Edited May 8, 2015 by Walsingham 5 "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 This is an example of the intellectual left run amok. A case study of why these people should never be voted into in kind of political power to ACT on it. Otherwise reading to your children won't just be discouraged, it will be illegal, Or worse: According to Swift, from a purely instrumental position the answer is straightforward. ‘One way philosophers might think about solving the social justice problem would be by simply abolishing the family. If the family is this source of unfairness in society then it looks plausible to think that if we abolished the family there would be a more level playing field.’ It’s not the first time a philosopher has thought about such a drastic solution. Two thousand four hundred years ago another sage reasoned that the care of children should be undertaken by the state. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Wut? Rather than encourage bad parents to do better, you want good parents to do worse? Because of the white supremacist cismale patriarchy? That makes about as much sense as combating obesity by encouraging fit people to work out less and eat worse. 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I thought this article was a clever anti-SJW type trolling. But no, it's serious. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManifestedISO Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I don't see it. It's a presumptuously half-written article, but clearly doesn't protest reading to your kids: ‘We could prevent elite private schooling without any real hit to healthy family relationships, whereas if we say that you can’t read bedtime stories to your kids because it’s not fair that some kids get them and others don’t, then that would be too big a hit at the core of family life.’ 2 All Stop. On Screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Its a philosophy based article, so its kind of a "thought experiment". 3 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) I don't see it. It's a presumptuously half-written article, but clearly doesn't protest reading to your kids: ‘We could prevent elite private schooling without any real hit to healthy family relationships, whereas if we say that you can’t read bedtime stories to your kids because it’s not fair that some kids get them and others don’t, then that would be too big a hit at the core of family life.’ Something something outrage culture, projecting, etc. I mean, it's a remarkable feat of illiteracy to take a piece of text and launch into a tirade about how it illustrates everything wrong with the SJWs, when "everything wrong", in this context, would be the exact opposite of what the text actually endorsed. Well, I suppose reading bedtime stories to one's children could help improve the parent's reading comprehension, so the enthusiasm about the activity suddenly makes sense. Edited May 8, 2015 by aluminiumtrioxid "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hm, I felt that while the interviewee didn't protest reading to your kids, that is what the interviewer was trying to focus on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hm, I felt that while the interviewee didn't protest reading to your kids, that is what the interviewer was trying to focus on. ...Is now clickbait journalism also the fault of the SJW conspiracy? 1 "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hm, I felt that while the interviewee didn't protest reading to your kids, that is what the interviewer was trying to focus on. ...Is now clickbait journalism also the fault of the SJW conspiracy? Yes They also faked the moon landing 2 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hm, I felt that while the interviewee didn't protest reading to your kids, that is what the interviewer was trying to focus on. ...Is now clickbait journalism also the fault of the SJW conspiracy? Yes They also faked the moon landing And shot Kennedy. 2 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hm, I felt that while the interviewee didn't protest reading to your kids, that is what the interviewer was trying to focus on. ...Is now clickbait journalism also the fault of the SJW conspiracy? Obviously. (On a side note, SJW conspiracy implies SJWs are organized. The only thing SJWs hate more than non-SJWs is other SJWs.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I don't see it. It's a presumptuously half-written article, but clearly doesn't protest reading to your kids: ‘We could prevent elite private schooling without any real hit to healthy family relationships, whereas if we say that you can’t read bedtime stories to your kids because it’s not fair that some kids get them and others don’t, then that would be too big a hit at the core of family life.’ Nah, it sounds more like the token drunken rambling at a student speakeasy at 4 AM. Simply dumb masquarading as smart with some eloquent language. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (The only thing SJWs hate more than non-SJWs is other SJWs.) ...Let's leave the SJW-bashing to the illiterate rage-addicts, shall we? "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I was trying to be sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) I was trying to be sarcastic. Poe's Law strikes again! Edited May 8, 2015 by aluminiumtrioxid "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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