ioci Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 I don't know why you'd want to keep endlessly messing with it, reconstituting it and rebuilding it when it's right over there; perfectly playable and as its makers intended it to be, warts and all. so that someone could have something to criticize? might be more fun than just playing games
Mungri Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Beamdog are at the full mercy of Atari / Wotc. I remember all their replies to suggestions being 'Atari wont let us'. And yes, they need to beg, grovel and lick Atari / Wotc boots to get anything done.
Shadow_Arms Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 i know dem feels, Atari is holding by force the other half of battlezone rights(the 98 one and Combat commander that everyone loves it) and activision doesn't care to go there and grab it by force
Sabin Stargem Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Beamdog are at the full mercy of Atari / Wotc. I remember all their replies to suggestions being 'Atari wont let us'. And yes, they need to beg, grovel and lick Atari / Wotc boots to get anything done. True, but if they ever got a greenlight for BG3, they are going to need people to put it together. Obsidian is an obvious partner for that kind of scenario.
Marceror Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 If we were going to remake an IE game in the PoE engine, my vote would be for PS:T at this point. We have enhanced editions of the BGs and IWD at this point. I wouldn't mind a modernized PS:T. But that said, I agree that I'd rather see Obsidian continuing to focus on making games within their own IP. 2 "Now to find a home for my other staff."My Project Eternity Interview with Adam Brennecke
OchreJelly Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Wizards of the Coast- Casts Power Word: Cease And Desist : Anyone Even Thinking About This Wizards of the Coast did 999999999 damage to Anyone Even Thinking About This Anyone Even Thinking About This- Death It's big bug, kill my lvl1 sorcerer, pls fix. Not gonna happen, seriously. For hobbyist modders this kind of undertaking would be seriously massive, 'cause using large amounts of assets from the games would easily get an instant lawyer brigade sent out, and remaking them from scratch would take a team years and it's just not worth it. I mean, I get where you're coming from, but except for some minor presentation issues the IE games are just fine as they are. The only enthusiasm I have for the idea stems from taking the good ideas the IE games had and porting them into PoE, really. Edited April 11, 2015 by OchreJelly
tet666 Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Speaking of rebuilding IE games in different engines, you all have seen the BG2 remake in the Dragon Age engine that's being worked on, right? I played through the Irenicus dungeon portion; wasn't half bad, though I rather doubt they'll ever finish the whole game. Yep looked ok (i still prefer the 2d original tbh)and yes It's allready on hiatus their last update was that only one person was still working on it so it will never be finished. Edited April 11, 2015 by tet666
omgFIREBALLS Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 I wouldn't mind playing anything else for the rest of my life. The lack of a "not" in this sentence communicates a flagrant lack of faith in this endeavor. My Deadfire mods Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip. Waukeen's Berth: Make all your basic purchases at Queen's Berth. Carrying Voice: Wider chanter invocations. Nemnok's Congregation: Lets all priests express their true faith. Deadfire skill check catalogue right here!
Ashbringer87 Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 The infinity engine was just perfect for those games, and there are plenty of mods, plus the enchanced edition to play them on new PC-s. Leave them alone as they are. Make BG3 instead. And dont screw it up please!
Shadow_Arms Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 its hard to do BG3 atm, because WoTC gave minsc to PWD so they can use him on Neverwinter MMO
Marceror Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 its hard to do BG3 atm, because WoTC gave minsc to PWD so they can use him on Neverwinter MMO That sure sounds like a waste of Minsc. "Now to find a home for my other staff."My Project Eternity Interview with Adam Brennecke
AndreaColombo Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 And frankly PoE doesn't look that much better than the BG series did back in 2000. And that ran on a 300 Mhz PC. I wholeheartedly disagree. 1 "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus
Caerdon Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 um, the "engine" is just the Unity engine. There's a lot of coding on top of Unity to make the engine what it is. That's why inXile is using PoE tech for Torment instead of just vanilla Unity.
Marceror Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 And frankly PoE doesn't look that much better than the BG series did back in 2000. And that ran on a 300 Mhz PC. What? Are you running on the same 14" monitor as you were back in 2000? The character models are infinitely (no pun intended) more detailed than those in BG, as are the armors, weaponry, etc. The 2D maps are much higher resolution, and the animated water, trees, fog, fire and lighting effects are so far beyond anything that was present in BG. 1 "Now to find a home for my other staff."My Project Eternity Interview with Adam Brennecke
Ichthyic Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 And frankly PoE doesn't look that much better than the BG series did back in 2000. And that ran on a 300 Mhz PC. I wholeheartedly disagree. I wholeheartedly agree with your disagree. PoE does look tremendously better than the IE engine is capable of. the artwork just is done in a similar style to the old IE games, but the details? not even close. all of the effects are more detailed, all of the characters are better animated and much more detailed. and I JUST finished playing IWD enhanced before I played this... like the day before. there is really no comparison in graphic quality, this is miles ahead of the IE engine. 1
Shadow_Arms Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 speaking of IE based Engines, did someone else here played NoX(A.K.A the "Better Diablo voiced by Steve Stifler with a Better Engine based on IE and Diablo 2")
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