Archaven Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Will we have another Icewind Dale game? Thing is I like the combat mechanics of tactical isometric pause & play strategy games. Bravo to Bio/ex Black Isle team for creating this new genre. There's a KS game like Tornent which emphasizes heavily on dialogue. PoE is striking a balance. I wished to see a more heavier focused combat oriented game which has dialogue & story but a more heavier combat related rule-based game? Thanks!. I will still play both PoE & Torment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombat Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I'm not sure about IWD-ish game but, indeed, I wonder if there is a chance that Obsidian/InXile work on games based on similar mechanic with different directions/content for upcoming years. As far as my limited knowledge on game development goes, for a complex monster like CRPG, it would be reasonable to make the olde route of Infinity Engine games/NWN. Means, crowd-fund the basic system and build/let the community build content around it for upcoming years so that they can sell olde style expansions for a few to several years. The model fits a company like Obsidian, which is more valued by their content and it is more rational than building things from scratch every time. If they are successful in satisfying enough people for years, they may be able to still make another crowd-funding campaign once the basic system become obsolete. That said, after all, everything is upto Obsidian, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryy Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Will we have another Icewind Dale game? Thing is I like the combat mechanics of tactical isometric pause & play strategy games. Bravo to Bio/ex Black Isle team for creating this new genre. There's a KS game like Tornent which emphasizes heavily on dialogue. PoE is striking a balance. I wished to see a more heavier focused combat oriented game which has dialogue & story but a more heavier combat related rule-based game? Thanks!. I will still play both PoE & Torment though. They didn't create a genre, RPGs were around long before BioWare or Interplay. PoE is going to have an Adventurer's Hall where you can create a party, like at the start of IWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombat Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 They didn't create a genre, RPGs were around long before BioWare or Interplay. Sounds bit nitpicky to my ears. However, indeed, probably, it was Darklands, which is also one of personal fav of the lead designer of PoE. In fact, he is so much fan of the game that he seems to be backing a Kickstarter project, which appears to have a similar gameplay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suburban-Fox Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Will we have another Icewind Dale game? Thing is I like the combat mechanics of tactical isometric pause & play strategy games. Bravo to Bio/ex Black Isle team for creating this new genre. There's a KS game like Tornent which emphasizes heavily on dialogue. PoE is striking a balance. I wished to see a more heavier focused combat oriented game which has dialogue & story but a more heavier combat related rule-based game? Thanks!. I will still play both PoE & Torment though. They didn't create a genre, RPGs were around long before BioWare or Interplay. RPGs may have been around, but I'm pretty sure those types of RPGs weren't - highly story-driven, companions that reacted to what you did, a large emphasis on exploration with hundreds of side-quests, seamless transition from exploration into tactical combat...these things weren't generally done in RPGs previously, and aren't generally done now either. People often mock Baldur's Gate fans for our rose-tinted glasses, but the fact is, there's a reason why that game was considered such a classic, and there's a reason why nothing made since then has managed to capture us in quite the same way. 1 Ludacris fools! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerdon Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) They didn't create a genre, RPGs were around long before BioWare or Interplay. He's not talking about RPGs, but isometric, patry-based RPGs with RTwP combat. Like Wombat mentioned, they weren't actually the first, but they definitely popularized that type of games, which is one definition for "creating a genre". EDIT: Damn ninjas! Edited March 30, 2014 by Caerdon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjaamor Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Sounds bit nitpicky to my ears. However, indeed, probably, it was Darklands, which is also one of personal fav of the lead designer of PoE. In fact, he is so much fan of the game that he seems to be backing a Kickstarter project, which appears to have a similar gameplay. Thanks for the link! That project looks really cool and I may just have to get backing it! Other kickstarter projects to which I have no affiliation but you may be interested: Serpent in the Staglands: A rtwp gothic isometric crpg in the style of Darklands The Mandate: Strategy rpg as a starship commander with focus on crew management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfenbarg Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 We might get something in the form of DLC Storm of Zehir style. Or maybe they'll put another team on that kind of game after they finish up on other projects. I doubt something will surface soon, though. I think we really need to see this game work before they make announcements to try something else in the IE style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Theory Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) I know not everyone is a fan of the Forgotten Realms stuff, but I am and I'd love to see more games now that the legal issues with the license are over and there's obviously demand for similar RPGs. Would prefer a Baldur's Gate sequel, followed by a 'real' Neverwinter Nights before IWD. Edited March 30, 2014 by Chaos Theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryy Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I guess I don't really see the difference besides a focus on combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anameforobsidian Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Will we have another Icewind Dale game? Thing is I like the combat mechanics of tactical isometric pause & play strategy games. Bravo to Bio/ex Black Isle team for creating this new genre. There's a KS game like Tornent which emphasizes heavily on dialogue. PoE is striking a balance. I wished to see a more heavier focused combat oriented game which has dialogue & story but a more heavier combat related rule-based game? Thanks!. I will still play both PoE & Torment though. They didn't create a genre, RPGs were around long before BioWare or Interplay. RPGs may have been around, but I'm pretty sure those types of RPGs weren't - highly story-driven, companions that reacted to what you did, a large emphasis on exploration with hundreds of side-quests, seamless transition from exploration into tactical combat...these things weren't generally done in RPGs previously, and aren't generally done now either. People often mock Baldur's Gate fans for our rose-tinted glasses, but the fact is, there's a reason why that game was considered such a classic, and there's a reason why nothing made since then has managed to capture us in quite the same way. Ultima 7 had some of the most robust exploration of any non-procedural game made. I like the Interplay games better, but there were many games that got close before Baldur's Gate. Darklands is still on the list for me to play (that one is procedural). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitron Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) According to many, the very first recognizably "Black Isle-style" RPG was Dark Sun: Shattered Lands from 1993. Edited March 31, 2014 by Infinitron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarex Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) I am really hopping for another IWD game or something to that effect. IWD2 remains my favorite game to this day, the gameplay and setting remain the culmination of the IE games to this day. The soundtrack was epic too. Edited March 31, 2014 by Sarex "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaven Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Yeah I'm looking forward on tactical isometric RTwP type of game that has lite story but heavier focus on combat. Can't remember IWD or IWD2 the narrator's voice were breath-taking!! Totally suits the settings of the snowy feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khalil Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 If you want party based Diablo, I am OK with that, but please do not dignify it with the term "Role Playing Game." Icewind Dale was not a RPG. Temple of Elemental Evil was not an RPG. There are third person shooters that are closer to being RPGs than those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ffordesoon Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Dungeon crawlers are RPGs almost by definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I think Obsidian's next kickstarter will more than likely be in a different genre than PoE, but I think a Sci-Fi combat heavy tactical RPG would be pretty fun. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarex Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 If you want party based Diablo, I am OK with that, but please do not dignify it with the term "Role Playing Game." Icewind Dale was not a RPG. Temple of Elemental Evil was not an RPG. There are third person shooters that are closer to being RPGs than those. LOL "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I think Obsidian's next kickstarter will more than likely be in a different genre than PoE, but I think a Sci-Fi combat heavy tactical RPG would be pretty fun. My head is mashing Mass Effect and Xcom Enemy Unknown together, and I want it. 1 The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitron Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I think an Icewind Dale-like product would best be self-funded, perhaps as an expansion pack for Pillars of Eternity. Kickstarter should be used for launching the production of full-scale RPGs with a larger scope. There's no reason to aim lower than that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollowcrown Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Maybe the mega dungeon will be combat focused and somewhat like IWD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarex Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I think an Icewind Dale-like product would best be self-funded, perhaps as an expansion pack for Pillars of Eternity. Kickstarter should be used for launching the production of full-scale RPGs with a larger scope. There's no reason to aim lower than that. Though I don't agree on it being an expansion, I do think that it should be self funded. If PoE is a smash hit(withing the Iso-game community) then I don't see why they couldn't do it. "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anameforobsidian Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I was never crazy about Icewind Dale. Dungeon runners almost always bore me (Grimrock being the exception). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMZuk Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Who knows? It's not something I'll throw money after, though. I was never able to get into the IWD games. The lack of interaction between the characters and the endless combat sequences made it utter boredom to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMZuk Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Maybe the mega dungeon will be combat focused and somewhat like IWD? Dear me, I hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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