November 22, 201312 yr Of course I understand the difference. I can't believe you are even suggesting that I don't know, what an insult to my intelligence !!! Turn based is like....mmm...ermmm...a turn in a game of checkers and RT with Pause is like...a.....a visit to the doctor when someone is before you and you need to wait... Anyway I am really busy at the moment and can't go into more details than that No it's more like Turn-based is someone shouts at you to say they are going to kill you and then waits to see what you do. While RTwP is like someone shouts at you to say they are going to kill you while they are charging at you waving a big sword.
November 22, 201312 yr And needless to say, if you actually would want a turn-based system, DON'T VOTE. (Please?) Voted turnbased and emailed a friend to come vote for it too. Perkele, tiädäksää tuanoini!"It's easier to tolerate idiots if you do not consider them as stupid people, but exceptionally gifted monkeys."
November 22, 201312 yr I also voted turn based. The vote looks like it is so evenly split at the moment though, that Inexile will probably feel justified with whatever approach they take. I can't imagine real-time-with-a-pause will be so hard for them to do, especially since they've been sharing resources with P:E. If they were hoping the backers would decide for them, then they've failed. In the end they are going to make some people unhappy.
November 22, 201312 yr RtWP systems are usually implemented as turn based systems with timers, all real-time systems are if you dig deeply enough, but RtWP tend to be actual designed-to-be turn based systems converted to be real-time with timing windows, which makes them less than optimal but it does save the devs a lot of time and pain because the turn based systems they use tend to be already made, well understood, deep, and somewhat balanced (although in the conversion the balance can be badly broken, some features don't translate to real-time well at all).
November 22, 201312 yr I think turn-based is a great system for combat-centric games. Honestly, I coulnd't care less about combat in games like Torment and I wan it to be resolved quickly. I'm in it for the story, not for intricate, tactical combat.
November 22, 201312 yr would love to see a improved ToEE combat system... Sure while i can still play with RTwP i would prefer turnbased. So i voted turnbased also hello codex
November 22, 201312 yr To me it just seems wrong to sell something as a spiritual successor to PST and then want to go turn-based because you are already developing a game that is turn based. To me it just seems wrong to sell something as a D&D game and then want to go real-time-with-pause, like the Infinity Engine games did in the first place...
November 22, 201312 yr I want it to be turn based. Never been a fan of the real time with pause, probably one of the only things I don't like about the old infinity engine stuff. If they were all turn based they're be 10/10 games for me but being real time with pause is the -0.1 lol. It just felt chaotic and unorganised for me personally. Definitely a bit more fast paced if that's what you like Edited November 22, 201312 yr by Bli1942
November 22, 201312 yr Voted turn-based. The best games with tactical combat are turn-based, turn based combat is easier to accomplish well, and InXile are already making a turn based combat game.Interesting that the RPG which considered to have one of the best stories, also have one of the worst combat system. I wonder... The KickStarter campaign proposed a spiritual successor in terms of theme and emphasis on story, it did not promise anyone a combat system similar to Planescape: Torment, and I'm wondering whether anyone actually would want that.Would want what? better combat(like in other RPG classic or here) or pimp his RPG with the system the best games with tactical combat have? Which I suspect would make it much more combat oriented.
November 22, 201312 yr Wow, Torment actually got more backers than eternety project. I'm a bit sad that more people were interested in it than eternety, because for some reason i never liked the concept or lore of the Torment world.
November 22, 201312 yr Wow, Torment actually got more backers than eternety project. I'm a bit sad that more people were interested in it than eternety, because for some reason i never liked the concept or lore of the Torment world. Quite. Maybe some were thinking it's a sequel to Planescape. It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air...
November 22, 201312 yr Wow, Torment actually got more backers than eternety project. I'm a bit sad that more people were interested in it than eternety, because for some reason i never liked the concept or lore of the Torment world. Quite. Maybe some were thinking it's a sequel to Planescape. I think the "Torment world" Cubiq is referring to IS Planescape.
November 22, 201312 yr yeah sorry bout that. A big part of PE backers also were interested in PE because of Planescape Torment so...
November 22, 201312 yr I actually can't believe how close it is, I just looked and both options were level on 4795 votes! I expected turn based to romp away with it if I'm honest.
November 22, 201312 yr Wow, Torment actually got more backers than eternety project. I'm a bit sad that more people were interested in it than eternety, because for some reason i never liked the concept or lore of the Torment world.That's more to do with the increased KickStarter users.
November 22, 201312 yr Ok i didn't actually check but i'm assuming the Torment: Tides of Numenera shares the world with Planscape: Torment right? From what i saw the concept looks very similar. And i wanted to say i never liked the concept or lore of the Planscape: Torment, therefore i am sad that more people supported Torment: Tides of Numenera. If it's not the same world, then nevermind. Edited November 22, 201312 yr by Cubiq
November 22, 201312 yr Interesting that the RPG which considered to have one of the best stories, also have one of the worst combat system. I wonder... There are counter anecdotes. You can have good combat and good story telling.
November 22, 201312 yr the main difference is PE is made with a ruleset specifically designed for a CRPG with a RTWP combat system TToN is using a PnP ruleset that is made for TB combat, and is adapting it for a CRPG. so making the game's combat system TB, has several advantages, especially on the fidelity of the system to the PnP original The words freedom and liberty, are diminishing the true meaning of the abstract concept they try to explain. The true nature of freedom is such, that the human mind is unable to comprehend it, so we make a cage and name it freedom in order to give a tangible meaning to what we dont understand, just as our ancestors made gods like Thor or Zeus to explain thunder. -Teknoman2- What? You thought it was a quote from some well known wise guy from the past? Stupidity leads to willful ignorance - willful ignorance leads to hope - hope leads to sex - and that is how a new generation of fools is born! We are hardcore role players... When we go to bed with a girl, we roll a D20 to see if we hit the target and a D6 to see how much penetration damage we did. Modern democracy is: the sheep voting for which dog will be the shepherd's right hand.
November 22, 201312 yr Why are they even making this a vote? They should pick the combat system based on what they feel is best for the game. The input of backers shouldn't trump that of game designers. To be honest, I can't really muster any enthusiasm for this one, despite being a huge fan of the original. The whole thing screams cynical cash-in to me.
November 22, 201312 yr And needless to say, if you actually would want a turn-based system, DON'T VOTE. (Please?) Too late, I already voted for turn-based. If I had another vote, I'd vote turn-based again. Also, why is this a separate topic? Why not just put this in the Torment Tides of Numenera thread? 🇺🇸RFK Jr 2024🇺🇸 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
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