Deus Ex 3

[Hassat Hunter]

Most of the times ads are out-sourced. So even if Eidos Montreal was "smart about it" if the advertisers they sold their space too, aren't...

Well, you understand why it could become a major immersion breaker...

[Malcador]

Why are we assuming that they are going to be idiots about it?

 

Always best to look at worst case for things?

 

Damn bandwidth caps, have to make sure I keep 8 or so unused by the 24-25th

Edited August 10, 2011 by Malcador

[Nepenthe]

Don't you guys get tired of running around, waving your hands, screaming that the sky is falling on a daily basis? Or doing the Internet equivalent of it?

[Malcador]

Err...who was doing that?

[Nepenthe]

Err...who was doing that?

Who has two thumbs and a splitting headache?

[Malcador]

Hm... a Syrian prisoner ?

[Gfted1]

Seems kinda silly to me to incorporate present day ads into a game set several decades into the future.

Why are we assuming that they are going to be idiots about it?

 

Oh hang on, this is the Internet, we always leap to the conclusion that people are idiots, without giving them the benefit of the doubt or even spending a second to think about the possible causes.

 

And yes, I admit, that mini-rant is only partially related to this topic.

 

Now, if they incorporate stupid, clashing ads into their gameworld after spending an exceptional amount of energy on the visual style of their game, they are ****tards. I haven't seen any signs of them being ****tards, so for the moment, I'm going to assume that the ads stylistically match the game.

 

There, there, calm yourself. We're all just here talking about stuff weve seen/heard. I swear, you go out of your way to find slights to whine about.

[Nepenthe]

Seems kinda silly to me to incorporate present day ads into a game set several decades into the future.

Why are we assuming that they are going to be idiots about it?

 

Oh hang on, this is the Internet, we always leap to the conclusion that people are idiots, without giving them the benefit of the doubt or even spending a second to think about the possible causes.

 

And yes, I admit, that mini-rant is only partially related to this topic.

 

Now, if they incorporate stupid, clashing ads into their gameworld after spending an exceptional amount of energy on the visual style of their game, they are ****tards. I haven't seen any signs of them being ****tards, so for the moment, I'm going to assume that the ads stylistically match the game.

 

There, there, calm yourself. We're all just here talking about stuff weve seen/heard. I swear, you go out of your way to find slights to whine about.

Meh, either I have male PMS or it's the "let's collectively misunderstand all Nepenthe's points, he's a whiny little **** anyway" festival.

 

Don't say it, I know.

[Flouride]

http://twitter.com/#!/Hakso/status/95478977363316736

 

No idea how legit that guy is, Gamereactor itself isn't very popular in Finland.

 

 

In related news the game got: 91/100 from Pelit magazine. Boss battles apparently suck.

[entrerix]

OOOH BABY ITS ON NOW.

 

 

PC gamer review is written, scans can be found on the internet and things are looking great.

 

final verdict: not QUITE as good as the original deus ex, but almost, and has nearly as much open ended freedom and exploration and choices. the most deus-ex like game since the original deus ex.

 

they gave it a 94, whatever that means (i dont know this publication that well)

[vault_overseer]

This youtube user has a lot of the soundtrack uploaded. It is absolutely brilliant.

 

Forgot the link: http://www.youtube.com/user/zeonmx

Edited August 11, 2011 by vault_overseer

[Purkake]

So when Call of Duty gets high scores all around and DA2 gets 94% from PC Gamer it's paid for reviews and "lulz game press" but when Human Revolution gets high scores it's obviously deserved and just?

[Malcador]

Apparently a Danish magazine also reported Square Enix doing similar to them, at least for the early reviews or something.

 

And no, it's always..uh "lulz game press".

[Drowsy Emperor]

So when Call of Duty gets high scores all around and DA2 gets 94% from PC Gamer it's paid for reviews and "lulz game press" but when Human Revolution gets high scores it's obviously deserved and just?

 

No, PC Gamer is horrible garbage all round. Worst reviews and skewered, pre-arranged grades.

Edited August 11, 2011 by Drowsy Emperor

[Morgoth]

This youtube user has a lot of the soundtrack uploaded. It is absolutely brilliant.

 

Forgot the link: http://www.youtube.com/user/zeonmx

Doesn't even come close to the brilliance that is Alexander Brandon.

[Flouride]

Apparently a Danish magazine also reported Square Enix doing similar to them, at least for the early reviews or something.

 

And no, it's always..uh "lulz game press".

 

One of the staffers at Pelit said companies do it all the time. And how it should just be ignored, since mostly it's just a trick/bluff. Though not quite sure how it would work if they weren't the biggest magazine in Finland. Then they might actually have to start listening to the demands of gaming companies...

[vault_overseer]

It's good that I don't take you seriously

 

EDIT: This was addressed to Morgoth

Edited August 11, 2011 by vault_overseer

[Flouride]

It's good that I don't take you seriously

 

EDIT: This was addressed to Morgoth

 

Too late, sir. I demand satisfaction. Duel at dawn!

[Raithe]

Another one of those questions and answers which might be of interest to the folks around here...

 

Did your opinion on DX:IW change through development? It seems most of the fan community hated it. Did you incorporate any ideas at least in part inspired by Invisible War? Or was it entirely ignored?

 

 

Frank says:

 

My personal opinion of it did not change, no.

 

Have I played it? Yes. Through the end.

 

I?m glad to finally have this question.

 

We?ve tiptoed quite a lot around the issue of Invisible War, but we?ve never fully answered people who wanted to know how much of it we actually used as inspiration.

 

I shall do this here and now.

 

My aim is not to start a flame war. But if we?re to peel back the curtain on how this game was designed, I want to be truthful.

 

And the truth about Invisible War is that I personally did not get as much enjoyment out of it as I did the original Deus Ex.

 

Looking at Invisible War was a cautionary tale. The game showed us how some apparently simple design decisions such as universal ammo could alter the essence of what Deus Ex is.

 

When you look at IW, all the staples are there: the future, augs, weapons, a conspiracy, dialogs, stealth, side quests, etc. Yet it doesn?t feel quiteright.

 

It made us realize that it would be very easy for us to screw up Human Revolution. We had a fine line to thread after all.

 

So in essence we used IW and compared it to DX1 in order to operate a ?course correction?; which means we reverted most decisions in IW in favor of what DX1 had done.

 

From my knowledge (and sometimes defective memory), there is nothing in Human Revolution that comes from invisible War alone.

 

Doesn?t mean Invisible War was a bad game.

 

But it?s not the game we were trying to live up to.

[Orogun01]

So when Call of Duty gets high scores all around and DA2 gets 94% from PC Gamer it's paid for reviews and "lulz game press" but when Human Revolution gets high scores it's obviously deserved and just?

That's what we are brainwashing you to believe.

[Purkake]

I demand consistency within this community!

[Malcador]

Another one of those questions and answers which might be of interest to the folks around here...

 

Did your opinion on DX:IW change through development? It seems most of the fan community hated it. Did you incorporate any ideas at least in part inspired by Invisible War? Or was it entirely ignored?

 

 

Frank says:

 

My personal opinion of it did not change, no.

 

Have I played it? Yes. Through the end.

 

I?m glad to finally have this question.

 

We?ve tiptoed quite a lot around the issue of Invisible War, but we?ve never fully answered people who wanted to know how much of it we actually used as inspiration.

 

I shall do this here and now.

 

My aim is not to start a flame war. But if we?re to peel back the curtain on how this game was designed, I want to be truthful.

 

And the truth about Invisible War is that I personally did not get as much enjoyment out of it as I did the original Deus Ex.

 

Looking at Invisible War was a cautionary tale. The game showed us how some apparently simple design decisions such as universal ammo could alter the essence of what Deus Ex is.

 

When you look at IW, all the staples are there: the future, augs, weapons, a conspiracy, dialogs, stealth, side quests, etc. Yet it doesn?t feel quiteright.

 

It made us realize that it would be very easy for us to screw up Human Revolution. We had a fine line to thread after all.

 

So in essence we used IW and compared it to DX1 in order to operate a ?course correction?; which means we reverted most decisions in IW in favor of what DX1 had done.

 

From my knowledge (and sometimes defective memory), there is nothing in Human Revolution that comes from invisible War alone.

 

Doesn?t mean Invisible War was a bad game.

 

But it?s not the game we were trying to live up to.

 

 

Given what the general opinion of IW is from various groups, that answer was a revelation.

 

 

I demand consistency within this community!

 

They consistently provide you with chances to point out their hypocrisy! or something.

Edited August 11, 2011 by Malcador

[entrerix]

i for one have never said lulz game press or cried "bought reviews". i think there is pressure, and some magazines probably are outright bought, but i think the bigger pressure comes more from "me too" reviewers than publisher pressure.

 

regardless, i am stoked that deus ex HR appears to be more than just a mediocre shooter with the deus ex name on it. reading the review, bought or not, made it apparent that this game is at least trying to be "more", just like the original deus ex. so if it isn't perfect or even great, im happy enough to try it just to support more developers reaching for quality instead of settling for mediocrity.

[Orogun01]

i for one have never said lulz game press or cried "bought reviews". i think there is pressure, and some magazines probably are outright bought, but i think the bigger pressure comes more from "me too" reviewers than publisher pressure.

 

regardless, i am stoked that deus ex HR appears to be more than just a mediocre shooter with the deus ex name on it. reading the review, bought or not, made it apparent that this game is at least trying to be "more", just like the original deus ex. so if it isn't perfect or even great, im happy enough to try it just to support more developers reaching for quality instead of settling for mediocrity.

Which is why its doomed to fail once the CoD crowd realize that it isn't a mediocre shooter.

[entrerix]

does anyone know if the original deus ex failed to make the moneys?? i remember it being kind of a big deal, but maybe that was just in my imagination?