entrerix Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 did anyone mention cassidy from new vegas? i thought she looked pretty good... and double yes on the new triss, excellent design and 100x better than the old one Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Can we get something that aren't porn actress dropouts? That's actually interesting to look at even if her **** are unnecessarily exposed. Got me thinking how games take their cue from movies: they don't really include old/aged/not-so-good-looking people unless they're the bad guy or something. Bad policy if you ask me. I'm really struggling to find a game which has at least one worthwhile female role and that the female in case isn't cookie cutter male fantasy. ... Grace Nakimura from Gabriel Knight springs to mind. She was a completely ordinary woman. Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Got me thinking how games take their cue from movies: they don't really include old/aged/not-so-good-looking people unless they're the bad guy or something. Bad policy if you ask me. Only restating what's been shown earlier in this thread, but every single NPC in Oblivion (and for the most part, Morrowind). But then the ready availability of a certain kind of mod proves the other competing developers right. Though fairly simple, I like how Ultima handled the Avatar's companions. Of course, they were pretty much facsimiles of Garriott's real life colleagues/friends (also 50:50 gender split). Jaana the druid, Julia the tinker, Katrina the shepherd, and Mariah the mage. L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2B Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Can we get something that aren't porn actress dropouts? .... People like this are worse than the people who some in this thread are accusing to be sexist. How are these portrayals porn actresses? How? I mean I would understand if it was a model joke but why does everyone go immediately to porn or prostitution? Are you that dense? Actually, I'd agree with RPGmaster's statement. I'm of the opinion that there's far too many female characters in games whose appearance is designed to provide "eye candy" for the player. For some incomprehensible reason, this design decision spills over to armouring where the women in question must expose as much skin as possible, yielding the porn actress look. Case in point: what Calax, Bos Hybrid and Mera posted. Bare midriff, cleavage, plate armour bikinis and the bastard offspring of a cheongsam and miniskirt. I mean if we created an "Aesthetically pleasing Male character designs" thread would you be complaining about having the NFL being posted in there? Or just male porn stars? I have a suspicion you'll have a harder time finding NFL players in overtly sexualized clothing than finding than women in bikini armour. Again, how you look has NOTHING to do with who you are. Stop profiling. Aside from that, yes. There are much more charachter designs aimed at males. Theres also much more unrealistic armor in general. Theres also tons of other **** in video games. What about it? Uneven numbers exist throughout society. These numbers do not change much for a variety of reasons. Even if the source is mostly treated. NUMBERS aren't the problem. Never were. (Well, you know what I mean. Naturally "numbers" still play a role for example in payment when the average male still gets paid more for the same work than the average female in most countries) In certain cases these games market themselves as "realistic" and yes. In this cases it is pretty bad because it should be an accurate or at least close to a portrayel. (Bad Case in that: Heavy Rain) However when you go fantasy and sport yourself a look that is meant to be comical/satirical, abstracting yourself from anything that is real, it becomes something else entirly. What consequence for example does that WOW armor actually have? To give an example: WOW armor vs. the disco scene in Heavy Rain WOW armor No male will think that women actually wear that (Well, <14 at least). No female will think "Hey I want to look like that Elf at all". Heavy Rain Disco Scene Females will probably shake their heads in disgust. Since its done so casually Males will ACTUALLY think that a similiar scenario normal females would be able to do the same thing. Also because "females fake their orgasm mostly anyway and have no problems stripping in public". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lemon Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Again, how you look has NOTHING to do with who you are. Stop profiling. How you look doesn't change who you are, but it changes how people perceive you. Running out into the middle of the street with your underwear worn outside is still going to get you strange looks and people edging away whatever your original intention may be. By the same token, having a female character in a video game run around in bikinis and swimsuits is going to give the wrong impression. No male will think that women actually wear that (Well, <14 at least). No female will think "Hey I want to look like that Elf at all". Evidently this is not a female. However when you go fantasy and sport yourself a look that is meant to be comical/satirical, abstracting yourself from anything that is real, it becomes something else entirely. What consequence for example does that WOW armour actually have? Other than the incessant whinging of the feminists about the objectification of women and causing people to perceive video games as a guy thing, nothing much. Also, obligatory picture: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Somebody get the Icewind Dale character portraits. Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 I'm really struggling to find a game which has at least one worthwhile female role and that the female in case isn't cookie cutter male fantasy. In the adventure genre, it's hard not to find a game without a worthwhile female role. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 I'm really struggling to find a game which has at least one worthwhile female role and that the female in case isn't cookie cutter male fantasy. In the adventure genre, it's hard not to find a game without a worthwhile female role. Yes but apart from that? Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Normal sized boobs in a video game? Run to the hillz! Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Yes but apart from that? Anachronox, Beyond good & evil, System Shock 2, No one lives forever and a couple of characters from turn-based/real-time strategy games perhaps. That's about it. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2B Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 (edited) No male will think that women actually wear that (Well, <14 at least). No female will think "Hey I want to look like that Elf at all". Evidently this is not a female. Who don't get paid to do it for a model job? Edited April 10, 2011 by C2B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lemon Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 don't get paid to do it for a model job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Kitty Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Actually, side view seems consistent with a C or D. Which is real world big, but not comic book/internet porn big. New Triss looks great, old Triss looks horrible in comparison. Also, new Lara Croft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Also, new Lara Croft: I hope this game rocks as much as it rocks on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Wonder if new Lara's boobs will grow again from new game to new game. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2B Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) don't get paid to do it for a model job? Edited April 11, 2011 by C2B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lemon Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 No, I meant ALL females. No women (with your typical one in a thousand exception) is going to dress scantily because of a figure as far removed from reality as WOW. You cosplay because you decided on it with friends, like the character or/and like the game. What I meant is it doesn't translate to being scantily dressed in normal social situations or adapt a body image because of it. I could tell you that [all - (typical one in a thousand)] = most, but I think you know that as well as I do. That said, I'll agree that most females, I think I'll even go so far as to say most people, aren't going to emulate cartoonish fantasy characters under normal circumstances due to the utter impracticality of such outfits. And have a rather more archetypical fantasy render: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) I bet that armor feels really shizzle without wearing anything unter it. :> Edited April 11, 2011 by Lexx "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2B Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) No, I meant ALL females. No women (with your typical one in a thousand exception) is going to dress scantily because of a figure as far removed from reality as WOW. You cosplay because you decided on it with friends, like the character or/and like the game. What I meant is it doesn't translate to being scantily dressed in normal social situations or adapt a body image because of it. I could tell you that [all - (typical one in a thousand)] = most, but I think you know that as well as I do. That said, I'll agree that most females, I think I'll even go so far as to say most people, aren't going to emulate cartoonish fantasy characters under normal circumstances due to the utter impracticality of such outfits. All is still correct in the sense I meant it. The one in a thousand remark is the same as exceptions that prove the rule. Furthermore said exceptions could also have other reasons to chose it. (Mental problems) Also yes, but not due to impracticality but due to them having no reason to in the first place. Its not like they are watching something that is remotly real/can aspire to. Edited April 11, 2011 by C2B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majek Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Both women from Uncharted 2 should be mentioned as well here. 1.13 killed off Ja2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Extreme Cold Weather Clothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lemon Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) All is still correct in the sense I meant it. The one in a thousand remark is the same as exceptions that prove the rule. Furthermore said exceptions could also have other reasons to chose it. (Mental problems) And you're accusing me of profiling? I bet that armor feels really shizzle without wearing anything unter it. :> It's a drow. That's practically Victorian era fashion for them. Edited April 11, 2011 by John Lemon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2B Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) All is still correct in the sense I meant it. The one in a thousand remark is the same as exceptions that prove the rule. Furthermore said exceptions could also have other reasons to chose it. (Mental problems) And you're accusing me of profiling? Well, no. I said could. What I mean is though, the point where you can't differate reality from fiction. Just to clarify, in that case in a visual sense. And if that happens with an artstyle like WOWs you actually have a little problem. Edit: Also the profiling remark from before wasn't entirly serious.^^ Edit2: Personally, DSIII is way worse in that regard. I defend Katarina at this time but depending on her personality and/or how certain things are refrenced in the game it could still happen that I'm going to rage about the charachter. Edited April 11, 2011 by C2B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) Both women from Uncharted 2 should be mentioned as well here. No, only the attractive one (which was ruined anyway since claudia black has more of a mom-voice than a hawt voice) Edited April 11, 2011 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sannom Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) Edit2: Personally, DSIII is way worse in that regard. I defend Katarina at this time but depending on her personality and/or how certain things are refrenced in the game it could still happen that I'm going to rage about the charachter. I wonder if Katarina will make the same comment than Anjali in the old NYCC video about Lucas' 'metal monstrosity' and how long it takes him to put it on each morning . Edited April 11, 2011 by Sannom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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