Malcador Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 This quote was amusing, heh. Take combat for instance: Much like obvious influence Mass Effect, whether or not your weapon scores a hit is more dependent on its accuracy statistic than your actual skill. Even if you line up your shot perfectly you'll often whiff, especially in the early hours of the game. Note to developers: I don't care if it's realistic, making me miss because of math is never, ever, ever fun. Now stop it. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord2 Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Joystiq Review. An 'unfinished' game? That's pretty hard. It's true! I've been playing it for... 2h+ and I've had more glitches, crashes and other weird stuff going on for a while now - I'm going to wait until Beta Protocol comes out - a MAJOR patch. It's unplayable for me. TSLRCM, the mod that Wookieepedia doesn't want you to know about: http://www.deadlystream.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcroc Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 It seems many people love to tweet and re-tweet about Joystiq's AP review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vault_overseer Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Wow, it actually pains me to read that stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juncaj8 Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 really starting to seem like a love hate sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 really starting to seem like a love hate sort of thing. Yup, but love it or hate it should NEVER be based on how much patience has a gamer to endure all the technical glitches the game has fun throwing to them. Now, I don't want to sound like I think the programmers put bugs in the game to have fun, but Obsidian, as a company, should really think hard about how they're managing this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcroc Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 (edited) Destructoid - 2.0/10 Obsidian and Sega, like the US government portrayed in this very game, are better off denying all involvement in this failed operation. Edited May 28, 2010 by funcroc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 I'm about to finish the game and overall it's pretty good. Level Design is very well made, and very diverse. Hate the hacking though. I'd give it a 8.5/10 Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vault_overseer Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 interesting, european sites and mags seems to think that the game is very well written, while the mainstream us sites thrash it as poorly written... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Destructoid - 2.0/10 Obsidian and Sega, like the US government portrayed in this very game, are better off denying all involvement in this failed operation. Wow, that's really harsh. Seems like that jerk didn't know how to play. There are some issues, yes, but they can be easily overcome. Hope people aren't put off by these kind of reviews. AP needs to sell! Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 interesting, european sites and mags seems to think that the game is very well written, while the mainstream us sites thrash it as poorly written... I'm wondering if that's simply because americans are more used to spy flick and television series... Also a 2.0, no matter how incompetent is the reviewer, is basically an enormous stain on the game and developer's reputation. I really wouldn't like being in Obsidian's shoes. Granted, they're nice guys, but again, considering the number of devs and the polish of their game, I'm wondering if they shouldn't start reducing the number of projects and teams. Two teams working on two different projects seems like the limit for this developer, and instead they're always working on no less than three projects, not to mention they have to devote at least a little team to patching the games they've published. Ambition is fine, but remember what happened to Icarus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinken Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Not sure the stats is such a big issue ... Early on your receticle is wider but I've hit plenty of head shots. You just can't snipe with a pistol from 25 - 50ft away and expect head shots ... to be honest am okay with this. Biggest issues are empty/unfinished game world but then its not much different from other games of its type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwars Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 If I ever had any faith in gaming journalism, it was pretty much blown away by that. It's pretty amazing though, on one hand many of the US sites are trashing and on the other, EU seems to be liking it. Don't think I've ever seen a "split" this big before. But seriously, I just cannot see the 2/10. After playing some more today, this is growing on me even more. It's the best game I've played this year most likely. So weird. Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblarg Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 No, really, how can a game be consistently getting 8.5/10 from European reviews, and 3/10 from American ones? It just doesn't make sense - the spread of reviews is utterly absurd. Are the reviewers even playing the same game? "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Aviv Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Wow, I can't believe some of these reviews. I know most of us are willing to overlook AP's flaws but even when taking them into consideration I'd never award it a 2.0. That's crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 No, really, how can a game be consistently getting 8.5/10 from European reviews, and 3/10 from American ones? It just doesn't make sense - the spread of reviews is utterly absurd. Are the reviewers even playing the same game? European reviewers seem to fixate less on technical issues & look more at the overall package. It was the same story with games like Risen & Divinity II. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 No, really, how can a game be consistently getting 8.5/10 from European reviews, and 3/10 from American ones? It just doesn't make sense - the spread of reviews is utterly absurd. Are the reviewers even playing the same game? European reviewers seem to fixate less on technical issues & look more at the overall package. It was the same story with games like Risen & Divinity II. The spread wasn't quite as big with Risen & Divinity II as far as I remember though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblarg Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 No, really, how can a game be consistently getting 8.5/10 from European reviews, and 3/10 from American ones? It just doesn't make sense - the spread of reviews is utterly absurd. Are the reviewers even playing the same game? European reviewers seem to fixate less on technical issues & look more at the overall package. It was the same story with games like Risen & Divinity II. Even so, most of the impressions I've read here don't seem to think that the game is a bug-ridden disaster, or even that there are a particularly large number of bugs. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorch Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Wow, I can't believe some of these reviews. I know most of us are willing to overlook AP's flaws but even when taking them into consideration I'd never award it a 2.0. That's crazy! The reviewer for Destructoid was Jim Sterling, he's basically a professional troll. He gave Deadly Premonitions a 10/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwars Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 I guess the technical stuff (textures loading and all that) is more noticeable on consoles. I have seen it on the PC but it's not very noticeable. What is most baffling perhaps is how a lot of people are ignoring the *interactivity* of a game that is as story-heavy as AP. I had my suspicions of course but it seems that people really don't care that much about choices and all that. A shame, and they should because we're dealing with games and they should be interactive. Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 It's almost as if the Destructoid reviewer missed a deadline, and then quickly copy-pasted a Rogue Warrior review and changed the names. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 I remember why I only really read two or three review sites. Wasn't aware there was THAT much garbage out there Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcroc Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Official Xbox Magazine UK - 7.0/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblarg Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Really, it can't only be bugs. The insanely low American reviews all call the writing stale and uninteresting, yet the European reviews almost unanimously praise the depth of the characters and the quality of the dialogue, even in the not-so-good ones. I don't see how these can be people reviewing the same game. If I were to only look at the European reviews, it would be believable, but the gap is just too ****ing big. This doesn't make any sense. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syraxis Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 It's almost as if the Destructoid reviewer missed a deadline, and then quickly copy-pasted a Rogue Warrior review and changed the names. Story by Jim Sterling People actually take him seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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