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Yes, 'fine', not 'good'. A good bad movie. Star wars also had, I dunno a certain charm that just isn't found in 100% CGI. Avatar did much better than the usual soullessness you find in Toy story/Final fantasy type movies, but there was still too much face time with dorky looking cat people, exacerbated by the fact that you didn't care whether they lived or died.

 

Watching the tree burning scene just reminded me of how much better Apocalypse now was, more than anything I just wished they would get on with it and wipe out the whiny tree huggers.

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Guys, guys, guys. You can literally make a good movie out of anything. Even Roger Ebert agrees with me on this.

 

How the movie does play out is a completely different matter.

 

Besides, lets compare Avatar to another sci-fi movies that were ahead of their times in terms of technology, namely Blade Runner and Ghost in the Shell(japanese dub). Which one of those is better or of better quality? Before you answer, remember that Avatar outranks them both by a mile at imdb.com.

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Yes, 'fine', not 'good'. A good bad movie. Star wars also had, I dunno a certain charm that just isn't found in 100% CGI. Avatar did much better than the usual soullessness you find in Toy story/Final fantasy type movies, but there was still too much face time with dorky looking cat people, exacerbated by the fact that you didn't care whether they lived or died.

 

Watching the tree burning scene just reminded me of how much better Apocalypse now was, more than anything I just wished they would get on with it and wipe out the whiny tree huggers.

 

Apocalypse Now is one of the best movies ever made. Probably the best movie ever done about war.

"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

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Guys, guys, guys. You can literally make a good movie out of anything. Even Roger Ebert agrees with me on this.

 

How the movie does play out is a completely different matter.

 

Besides, lets compare Avatar to another sci-fi movies that were ahead of their times in terms of technology, namely Blade Runner and Ghost in the Shell(japanese dub). Which one of those is better or of better quality? Before you answer, remember that Avatar outranks them both by a mile at imdb.com.

 

Blade Runner wasn't ahead in technology (there are no particularly new special effects in Blade Runner) it was ahead in vision.

 

That's completely different.

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The book, that would be Heart of Darkness is also about colonialism, and unlike Avatar it actually tries to examine what goes on inside the heads of the colonialists. It didn't care one whit about the 'noble savages' though, but that's Conrad for you.

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greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER.

That is all.

 

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Guys, guys, guys. You can literally make a good movie out of anything. Even Roger Ebert agrees with me on this.

 

How the movie does play out is a completely different matter.

 

Besides, lets compare Avatar to another sci-fi movies that were ahead of their times in terms of technology, namely Blade Runner and Ghost in the Shell(japanese dub). Which one of those is better or of better quality? Before you answer, remember that Avatar outranks them both by a mile at imdb.com.

 

So, people at large think Avatar is better than Blade Runner or Ghost in the Shell. Well that settles it, people really are idiots. The evidence is undeniable.

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greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER.

That is all.

 

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Guys, guys, guys. You can literally make a good movie out of anything. Even Roger Ebert agrees with me on this.

 

How the movie does play out is a completely different matter.

 

Besides, lets compare Avatar to another sci-fi movies that were ahead of their times in terms of technology, namely Blade Runner and Ghost in the Shell(japanese dub). Which one of those is better or of better quality? Before you answer, remember that Avatar outranks them both by a mile at imdb.com.

 

Blade Runner wasn't ahead in technology (there are no particularly new special effects in Blade Runner) it was ahead in vision.

 

That's completely different.

 

Scratch Blade Runner then (awesome movie though, one of my favourites). At least Ghost in the Shell however, had new technology.

"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

Posted (edited)
Guys, guys, guys. You can literally make a good movie out of anything. Even Roger Ebert agrees with me on this.

 

How the movie does play out is a completely different matter.

 

Besides, lets compare Avatar to another sci-fi movies that were ahead of their times in terms of technology, namely Blade Runner and Ghost in the Shell(japanese dub). Which one of those is better or of better quality? Before you answer, remember that Avatar outranks them both by a mile at imdb.com.

 

So, people at large think Avatar is better than Blade Runner or Ghost in the Shell. Well that settles it, people really are idiots. The evidence is undeniable.

 

Well, idiots is kind of pushing it. I would prefer simple-minded and uncultivated savages. At best ignorant, at worst deliberately ignorant. Like the Na'Vi.

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"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

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Hey. He has a point right? I mean, Pixar is another company that churns out movies without any good plot. All they steal are stories from better works, then ruin them. COMPLETELY soul-less. Ugly CGI too. I mean; who wants to look at that? Eeew. It's a surprise that they aren't bankrupt yet. And why do people go visit their next movie when they know it's even more utter crap?

 

But atleast they are better than Cameron!

 

EDIT: Oh wait, I haven't even posted my own opinions on Avatar here, right? Well, I rather liked it. Sure, the plot is predictable but who cares, it's the execution that does it.

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I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5.

 

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Hey. He has a point right? I mean, Pixar is another company that churns out movies without any good plot. All they steal are stories from better works, then ruin them. COMPLETELY soul-less. Ugly CGI too. I mean; who wants to look at that? Eeew. It's a surprise that they aren't bankrupt yet. And why do people go visit their next movie when they know it's even more utter crap?

 

But atleast they are better than Cameron!

 

Something about this felt off, since Pixar is a brand that says to me "awesome" so I just checked their movies to confirm. Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Wall-E. I'm pretty certain now that you are being sarcastic. :D

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What does their success or otherwise of the company have to do with one of their movies. Are we back to equating business success with quality, I thought we already agreed that that was stupid.

 

I Saw Toy story years ago and fell asleep. I suppose it's possible it might be good, all I know is the seat was comfortable.

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greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER.

That is all.

 

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What does their success or otherwise of the company have to do with one of their movies. Are we back to equating business success with quality, I thought we already agreed that that was stupid.

 

You agreed with yourself that it was stupid, sure.

 

You said: "The point being that 100% CGI rarely works out."

 

When all 10 of the movies you've ever made have profit ratios of between 4:1 and 10:1 on their budgets, all score rave reviews on their quality, originality and enjoyability, and are all CGI movies, it becomes evident that something is seriously wrong with your statement, Gorgon.

 

Every single Pixar film was both high-quality AND successful. And they're not all cute and cuddly. Go see The Incredibles, Finding Nemo or Wall-E (OK, so Wall-E was half cute and cuddly, but in a pretty unique way).

 

EDIT: And their upcoming movie is inspired by Hans Christian Andersen and the Brothers Grimm - so I don't think 'cute and cuddly' will be an apt description for it.

 

EDIT 2: on second thought, was Toy Story really all that cute and cuddly?

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Ratatouille is about rats, of all things.

 

And Pixar films always focus on the story and characters first, visuals second.

 

Well, except maybe Cars. Cars was pretty stupid, I think.

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This was definitely vintage Cameron, and I loved every minute of it. The thing that sets James Cameron (and Ridley Scott) from their peers, is their ability to capture the human drama agmonst all the guns and explosions. Form with substance...now in 3D. What more could you want from a popcorn flick?

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I just saw the 3D polarized glass edition. It was a good action/adventure movie, not the greatest movie ever, but certainly enjoyable. I don't really think that 3D made the movie, it was a nice addition, but the real awesome part was all the great CG work. Realistic CG humans are almost here, yay!

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Up has an insane 98% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and it is CGI and features an old man, a boy, and a dog.

 

It also made most people cry in the first 20 minutes.

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