The New Classics

[Mamoulian War]

You know... there are few games i played online for more than 1 year aswell, but would not count them as a classic... I played Counter-Strike online for 6 years... that is sign of classic and i am CRPG maniac here, i do not play FPS at all nowadays, but still i would mark some of the FPS amongst gaming classics... Quantity in many cases does not mark quality, I know that, because i am one of the millions of owners of Oblivion, and to this day i did not played it more than 10 minutes... But my sister loves it, but i dont think she would mark it as noteworthy few years in future... But I know she would mark GTA IV as a classic

[Purkake]

Halo 3 hasn't been out for that long. If Halo 3 is the first online FPS you play, it will undoubtedly have a special place in your heart.

 

Sometimes I think that most of you here live in a different world where the mainstream doesn't exist and gaming has become some weird underground thing that only a few people do.

Edited September 2, 2009 by Purkake

[Kelverin]

Sometimes I think that most of you here live in a different world where the mainstream doesn't exist and gaming has become some weird underground thing that only a few people do.

And?

[Purkake]

Sometimes I think that most of you here live in a different world where the mainstream doesn't exist and gaming has become some weird underground thing that only a few people do.

And?

 

You actually live in a world where most gamers haven't heard about Planescape or Baldur's Gate and think that Oblivion is the best RPG ever.

[RPGmasterBoo]

Sometimes I think that most of you here live in a different world where the mainstream doesn't exist and gaming has become some weird underground thing that only a few people do.

And?

 

You actually live in a world where most gamers haven't heard about Planescape or Baldur's Gate and think that Oblivion is the best RPG ever.

 

Who cares?

 

We're here presumably because we know better.

[Purkake]

Sure, but this thread is (as I understood it) about the mainstream.

 

If it's not then entrerix should have made it clearer.

Edited September 2, 2009 by Purkake

[Rosbjerg]

Hmm, interesting ideas..

 

Forgive me if it's already been mentioned, but Rome Total War is now considered a classic and it's 5 years old now..

 

Mass Effect will most likely be on the list too, although I don't think it should. It'll be interesting to see if DA manages to push it off!

 

Stalker will probably hit the list too, for it's interesting setting.

 

Duke Nukem Forever, just for the amount of wasted hype and all the anger it inspired..

 

Prince of Persia: Sands of Time I know it's technically 6 years or 5.5? but I wanted to give it an honourable mention.

 

Diablo III will without a doubt be considered a classic, Blizzard would have to mess up utterly for that to fail..

 

Spore and I know what you're gonna say - and I agree! it's a ****ty game, but it's gonna inspire alot of games in the coming decades I think, which will redeem it in the end.

 

Sins of A Solar Empire/Galactic Civilizations II - for bringing the cool back into the space 4X genre..

 

CIV 4 of course, but all Civ games are almost always insta-classics..

[Purkake]

I have a feeling that the DA console ports(especially the PS3 one) aren't going to be so hot, at least compared to other built-for-console games.

 

I'd switch Spore out for the Sims franchise. I think most people have forgotten Spore already.

Edited September 2, 2009 by Purkake

[entrerix]

Remember though (purkake)

 

you are right that average joe gamer doesnt consider torment or BG classics. he also never played fallout. but im talking about the games INDUSTRY, the press, the hardcore, the mainstream, the developers etc

 

the INDUSTRY as a whole looks at baldurs gate and torment as two of the best crpg's of all time. and as classics. look up any top 100 games of all time by a respected gaming journal/publication and those two games have a very decent shot at being on it.

 

that's the barometer of "classic" that I was aiming for with the thread. so just because a game is niche genre doesnt mean it won't be a "classic" of gaming in ten years and show up on some best games of all time lists.

 

and i should DEFINITELY have been more clear when making the thread

[entrerix]

I think it will be very interesting to see whether spore becomes a classic of gaming, or a forgotten experiment...

 

lets all come back in 10 years and discuss what happened... loljk

 

maybe

[Hurlshort]

I'd say Spore has quite a bit of staying power with the younger generations. I grew up playing Sim City, I can see my daughter playing Spore for years to come.

[Purkake]

Most of the American "games journalists" grew up playing the NES and most of them haven't played any of the IE games if they have actually heard of them.

 

There's a reason why there are special PC gaming sites/blogs like RockPaperShotgun and PCGamer.

 

I'd say Spore has quite a bit of staying power with the younger generations. I grew up playing Sim City, I can see my daughter playing Spore for years to come.

 

That's the "lost generation" that plays weird flash games that no one over 15 has even heard of.

Edited September 2, 2009 by Purkake

[kingofsquid]

What about a nice shooter series, Metroid Prime, MP2 Echoes, and MP3 Corruption?

[Enoch]

For groundbreaking, how about Guitar Hero?

 

 

Also, Wii Bowling. (Seriously, is there anyone who hasn't had an enormous amount of fun with some friends, some booze, and Wii Bowling?)

[Deadly_Nightshade]

Someone suggested Prey, why?

 

Because it was much better than most of the shooters out there including and was underrated in my opinion.

[Deadly_Nightshade]

For groundbreaking, how about Guitar Hero?

 

Or Rock Band - it added other insterments.

[Kelverin]

On the sports game front both MVP 2005 and NFL 2K5 are still to this day considered to be the best games ever made in their respective sports. The Show 09 is about the only game that comes close to being in the same ballpark as 05.

[Monte Carlo]

I think the 'New Classics' will reflect developments in co-op play and graphics that gamers nowadays put a premium on.

 

Left4Dead (co-op) and Crysis (graphics) ain't exactly my cup of tea but I can see why people will remember them fondly as classics.

 

The CRPG cupboard is pretty much bare as far as modern classics are concerned, apart from MMORPGs, but I don't play those so I can't comment.

 

Cheers

MC

[mr insomniac]

Left4Dead (co-op) and Crysis (graphics) ain't exactly my cup of tea but I can see why people will remember them fondly as classics.

Cheers

MC

I was going to add Left4Dead if no one else had.

 

Although I'm sure there are other co-op oriented games that do the co-op thing better, L4D is just damn fun.

[entrerix]

i have a feeling that left4dead was the beginning of a new era of coop. I wouldnt be surprised at all if Call of Duty and other series started incorporating many ideas that began in left4dead

 

i wholeheartedly agree that game will likely be remembered as a classic/trendsetter in future years

 

and duh! rockband/guitar hero! didnt even think of those but they basically created the new "social/party" games movement

 

and they showed that people will shell out cash for crazy peripherals so long as the game is good enough

[Purkake]

I'm not really seeing Crysis being a classic. It's a mediocre game with pretty graphics, you might just as well nominate Farcry 2, at least they tried some new stuff.

[entrerix]

i agree with that thinking re crysis, though i think its unlikely for far cry 2 to be looked at as a classic down the line, though from your tone it appears you feel the same

[Slowtrain]

I'm not really seeing Crysis being a classic. It's a mediocre game with pretty graphics, you might just as well nominate Farcry 2, at least they tried some new stuff.

 

 

I agree. But speakinf of Crytek, Far Cry 1 was more of a classic than Crysis will ever hope to be. Far Cry 1 had a pretty big impact with its environment graphics as well as its big horizon and jungle creeping gameplay.

 

It also had Trigens, of course. Which deals it a serious blow.

[entrerix]

yeah farcry 1 DID change shooters a bit after it's release, it added stealth to traditional fps, and it had big environments to move around in instead of confined linearity.

[Purkake]

I'm not really seeing Crysis being a classic. It's a mediocre game with pretty graphics, you might just as well nominate Farcry 2, at least they tried some new stuff.

 

 

I agree. But speakinf of Crytek, Far Cry 1 was more of a classic than Crysis will ever hope to be. Far Cry 1 had a pretty big impact with its environment graphics as well as its big horizon and jungle creeping gameplay.

 

It also had Trigens, of course. Which deals it a serious blow.

 

I agree, it was super special awesome until the damn Trigen showed up.