Humodour Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Hey Josh, could I request there be a spy character in the game with the alias "Fun Crocodile" who knows everything you do the moment you do it?
Meshugger Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 ...should be added as a smiley, or atleast made mandatory for all posters from the 'Codex Anyhoo, i fully expect "Fallout: New Vegas" to include: - - Being able to marry, fornicate and kill hookers. - Become a pornstar. - Become a druglord with a harem of above mentioned. - Kill kids and extort parents for not killing their cousins and siblings. - Letting an angry mob to put my character on a mock-trial and consequently kill me for the sins mentioned above. - Of course there's the C&C from the previous installments, gameplay and character-creation. Other than that, it's cool. Still, there's a faint deja vu of being back in 2004 again. Hopefully things will go smoother this time. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Darth InSidious Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 yeah. Fallout 3 in a nutshell: get quest. wander around. dungeon crawl. walk into place #17. find same crap as places #1-#16. find safe full of similar useless crap and/or bobblehead. repeat ad-nauseum. So... NWN1 with graphics that aren't fugly? This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter.
Gfted1 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Humodour Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? Sure is.
Gfted1 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? Sure is. Fair enough. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
alanschu Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? Then, despite the gross similarities and how accurate the reversion is, people won't be blinded by their nostalgia and will critique the game for still not being a good enough carbon copy of the first two games.
Deadly_Nightshade Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Hell yeah. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Gfted1 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? Then, despite the gross similarities and how accurate the reversion is, people won't be blinded by their nostalgia and will critique the game for still not being a good enough carbon copy of the first two games. Lol, I was going to bring up how nostalgia would never stand the withering light of the actual product but it doesnt seem to matter. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
FabMan_UK Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? Hardly that simple. Just that those people who love the Fallout series want to see those traits they loved brought into the next incarnation of the game, however Fallout 3 was lacking in some of those aspects. I still very much liked Fallout 3, but it doesn't follow the theme of Fallout and Fallout 2 very well. I feel they can keep a lot of what Fallout 3 is, but add some depth to the game. Something a bit more substantial to it.
Humodour Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? Sure is. Fair enough. Well, honestly, what do you want to know exactly? Do we want another Fallout game similar to Fallout 1 and 2 (conceding FPS and combat changes)? The answer is yes. We didn't get enough of it 10 years ago and we get barely any of it now. Frankly I'm sick of graphics engine upgrades and new and improved rag-doll physics. I want the "good old days" where the atmosphere and story was the focus. Maybe your question really is: do we want an Obsidian Fallout game instead of something else - maybe a new IP or steampunk or something? Well, still, yes. Sorry if this announcement disappoints you. Edited April 20, 2009 by Krezack
Meshugger Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? Pretty much, people are still waiting for Slayer to produce another "Reign in Blood", or Ridley Scott making another incredible Sci-Fi movie. No one wants another Fallout to be like 'Jason X' was to the other "Friday the 13th"-movies. Sh*t, man, there are people still longing for another empire like [insert random historic empire] to this day. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Slowtrain Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? I would like to see a Fallout game that lacks Bethesda's typical gameplay stylings. Whether its is like Fallout 1 or 2 or not, I don't particularly care. Edited April 20, 2009 by CrashGirl Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Gfted1 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? Hardly that simple. Just that those people who love the Fallout series want to see those traits they loved brought into the next incarnation of the game, however Fallout 3 was lacking in some of those aspects. I still very much liked Fallout 3, but it doesn't follow the theme of Fallout and Fallout 2 very well. I feel they can keep a lot of what Fallout 3 is, but add some depth to the game. Something a bit more substantial to it. Would you consider that "doable" as it probably wont be turn based? Isnt that where a lot of the charm came from wrt FO1 and FO2? I dunno, I havnt played any of them. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Amentep Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 I honestly didn't see this coming. But psychic powers were always my weak spot. Still, something to look forward to. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Humodour Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 All of these suggestions just sound like FO2 reskinned for 2010. Is that what the majority of you want? Im genuinely curious here. A new FO on the heels of a version less then 1 year old and all anyone wants is to revert back to "the good ole days? Hardly that simple. Just that those people who love the Fallout series want to see those traits they loved brought into the next incarnation of the game, however Fallout 3 was lacking in some of those aspects. I still very much liked Fallout 3, but it doesn't follow the theme of Fallout and Fallout 2 very well. I feel they can keep a lot of what Fallout 3 is, but add some depth to the game. Something a bit more substantial to it. Would you consider that "doable" as it probably wont be turn based? Isnt that where a lot of the charm came from wrt FO1 and FO2? I dunno, I havnt played any of them. *facepalm*
Deadly_Nightshade Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 I dunno, I havnt played any of them. You really should seeing as they're two of the best games ever produced. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Gfted1 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Well, honestly, what do you want to know exactly? Do we want another Fallout game similar to Fallout 1 and 2 (conceding FPS and combat changes)? The answer is yes. We didn't get enough of it 10 years ago and we get barely any of it now. Frankly I'm sick of graphics engine upgrades and new and improved rag-doll physics. I want the "good old days" where the atmosphere and story was the focus. Maybe your question really is: do we want an Obsidian Fallout game instead of something else - maybe a new IP or steampunk or something? Well, still, yes. Sorry if this announcement disappoints you. Im not disappointed in the least and Im happy everyone else is happy. Im more curious as to why, and whether or not its just nostalgia. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Slowtrain Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 As I see it, there are many possible ways to make a good crpg. Fallout 1 was one way and it was a good way. So was Deus Ex. So was Baldur's Gate. So was Bloodlines. etc and so forth. I enjoyed them all. The problem is Bethesda has never found a good way. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Gfted1 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 *facepalm* You really should seeing as they're two of the best games ever produced. I know, I know. They just look like such crap imo. Like one level above all text. Im not even a graphics whore and looking at screen caps of the FO's make me want to spork my eyes out. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Humodour Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Well, honestly, what do you want to know exactly? Do we want another Fallout game similar to Fallout 1 and 2 (conceding FPS and combat changes)? The answer is yes. We didn't get enough of it 10 years ago and we get barely any of it now. Frankly I'm sick of graphics engine upgrades and new and improved rag-doll physics. I want the "good old days" where the atmosphere and story was the focus. Maybe your question really is: do we want an Obsidian Fallout game instead of something else - maybe a new IP or steampunk or something? Well, still, yes. Sorry if this announcement disappoints you. Im not disappointed in the least and Im happy everyone else is happy. Im more curious as to why, and whether or not its just nostalgia. Fallout 1 and 2 are absolutely excellent RPGs to this day. There's a whole lot more to their appeal than just nostalgia. I guess it's something that'd make sense if you played them, but in a similar way what made games like SS2, DX1, and Torment good is also something timeless. regardless of their graphics or combat system or whatever now. I highly recommend you play them.
FabMan_UK Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Would you consider that "doable" as it probably wont be turn based? Isnt that where a lot of the charm came from wrt FO1 and FO2? I dunno, I havnt played any of them. Turn based is just a game mechanic, I know that people like it but to me it was just how the engine processed combat. Not necessary for a Fallout game, to me. Fallout 3 had some real great moments to it and I really loved those moments, but they were spread out with cheese, too much cheese.
Humodour Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 *facepalm* You really should seeing as they're two of the best games ever produced. I know, I know. They just look like such crap imo. Like one level above all text. Im not even a graphics whore and looking at screen caps of the FO's make me want to spork my eyes out. I get what you mean, but I think you're mistaken. Specifically screen shots don't do the game justice. Sure, it's pixelated now, but it's to modern RPG's what Quake 2 or Half-Life 1 are to modern FPS's - outdated but still infinitely playable.
Slowtrain Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 I know, I know. They just look like such crap imo. Like one level above all text. Im not even a graphics whore and looking at screen caps of the FO's make me want to spork my eyes out. I always find that when I go play an older game, they do tend to look jarring at first. But after playing for a while, the graphics become "normalized" and cease to look bad anymore. *shrugs* I dunno. Maybe I just have a higher tolerance for that sort of thing. I still play Master of Orion and XCOM, so maybe I am a bad example? Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
FabMan_UK Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) I know, I know. They just look like such crap imo. Like one level above all text. Im not even a graphics whore and looking at screen caps of the FO's make me want to spork my eyes out. The user interface is crap, even at the time it was released, it was crap. If you can't get over it, you won't enjoy the game. It took me a while, I put it down after 15 mins of first playing it as I was killed by the 1st enemy I faced because I didn't know how to kill it. However I went back to it after a couple of days and slowly played it learning how it worked, after a while you forget the UI and just enjoy a really great game. -edit- To another poster, I still love Quake 2. I'm not sure what so special about it, I played Quake a hell of a lot until Quake 2. But I can't play Quake anymore as it's just not any good. Quake 2 rocks! As does Half-Life 1 of course. PC Gamer UK had that at the no.1 spot for 5 years and only took it down to give other games a chance, I think. Edited April 20, 2009 by FabMan_UK
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