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Bourne, 007, or Bauer


Bourne, 007, or Bauer  

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  1. 1. Which one(s) would you prefer Alpha Protocol's guy to be like?

    • Jason Bourne
      47
    • Jack Bauer
      12
    • James Bond (any)
      36
    • Someone who's name doesn't begin with a "J".
      20


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Jason Bourne all the way! Less gadgets, more cunning, handling the most unlikely of situations without any back up or equipment and still making it through just using his brain and that's his greatest weapon. Jack Bauer just needs a handgun and get everyone out of his way, pretty much like Chuck Norris but a little downplayed. He's got the government and unlimited resources to back him up, creates scenario loopholes for things that don't make any sense and is generally luckier than anyone else, I guess the Force is strong in that one. James Bond has got gadgets. He's got stuff that do the amazing for him, hardly does any reckon himself and his espionage abilities seem limited to killing people and blowing **** up, he is also as transparent as bottle of mineral water. Don't get me wrong, I like James Bond and Jack Bauer, but I find the well played story of the Bourne films over any James Bond film or season of 24, he's just plain superior and since the Bourne game ISN'T going to be released on the PC, I'd hate to find myself lacking something like that. I've loved Black Isle and now I love Obsidian, for their ability to get the right atmosphere in games, perfect scripts, dialogs that blow your mind away and endings that ... well, if you didn't complain about the ending of games like, oh, I don't know, say Jericho, Crysis and Assassin's Creed, you have NO right to complain about KotoR 2, especially since it was all LA's fault!

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Jack Bauer just needs a handgun and get everyone out of his way, pretty much like Chuck Norris but a little downplayed. He's got the government and unlimited resources to back him up, creates scenario loopholes for things that don't make any sense and is generally luckier than anyone else, I guess the Force is strong in that one.

 

What? I can count at least a dozen situations where he didn't had a gun and went rogue.

 

 

James Bond has got gadgets. He's got stuff that do the amazing for him, hardly does any reckon himself and his espionage abilities seem limited to killing people and blowing **** up, he is also as transparent as bottle of mineral water.

 

The whole Roger Moore/Timothy Dalton/Pierce Brosnan trinity was a blight on the character and shouldn't be considered as the only way to portray the character. In Casino Royale, he's about as Bourne as a Bond gets.

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The whole Roger Moore/Timothy Dalton/Pierce Brosnan trinity was a blight on the character and shouldn't be considered as the only way to portray the character. In Casino Royale, he's about as Bourne as a Bond gets.

Remove Dalton from that list and you might have something, his portrayal is arguably the closest to what the creator of the character had in mind.

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Nope, Daniel Craig's Bond is closest to book ones.

 

Dalton's too plotwise e.g Bond's dealing with smaller stuff instead of saving the world again and again

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Nope, Daniel Craig's Bond is closest to book ones.

 

Dalton's too plotwise e.g Bond's dealing with smaller stuff instead of saving the world again and again

Not sure exactly what you are referring to, but I'll take a shot.

 

In neither Dalton film did save the world.

 

TLD - Takes down an arms dealer

LTK - Personal vendetta, goes after a drug lord for the attack on his closest friend.

 

 

Both Dalton's film suffer from things out of his control, weak scripts, bad villains, questionable directing, so-so Bond girls, LTK low budget,.....

But his portrayal is dead on.

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Uhh, that's what I said. :)

 

Bond's dealing with smaller stuff instead of saving the world again and again

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Uhh, that's what I said. :grin:

 

Bond's dealing with smaller stuff instead of saving the world again and again

I do not get your point, Bond saving the world is strictly from the movies. Dalton's Bond was hardly a world savior superman and was much more human in his portrayal just like the literary character, which was my point in the first place...

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I'm saying Dalton Bond is dealing with "small stuff" and not saving the world all the time like your typical movie Bond

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Yeah... I wasn't disagreeing with you! ;)

 

I just said Casino Royale is closest to real Bond, even closer than Dalton.

How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them.

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Yeah... I wasn't disagreeing with you! ;)

 

I just said Casino Royale is closest to real Bond, even closer than Dalton.

 

If I'm reading it right, you are disagreeing. Kelverin is saying that Dalton Bond is the closest to the book Bond. Therefore Dalton Bond is the closest to "real" bond.

 

You are saying that Craig Bond is the closest to "real" Bond.

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Yeah... I wasn't disagreeing with you! ;)

 

I just said Casino Royale is closest to real Bond, even closer than Dalton.

 

If I'm reading it right, you are disagreeing. Kelverin is saying that Dalton Bond is the closest to the book Bond. Therefore Dalton Bond is the closest to "real" bond.

 

You are saying that Craig Bond is the closest to "real" Bond.

 

Yes, we are disagreeing on THAT

 

But we are AGREEING on that Dalton Bond is fairly "real" portrayal of character and NOT IN THE SAME GROUP WITH MOORE ETC.

How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them.

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Yes, we are disagreeing on THAT

 

Fanboy on :o

Daniel Craig has the advantage in a sense because the producers wanted to "save the franchise" and they really tried to get back to the basics in CR, the story is based (very loosely) on a novel, unlike either of Dalton's films. Yes I know the TLD PTS is from a short story, but the rest of the film (which was written for Moore by the way) is kind of weak and the only

redeeming quality it has is Dalton's performance. Check the PTS, Saunders assignation, Confrontation with Pushkin in the hotel room, "Assassination" of Pushkin...pure Bond. LTK on the other hand is Bond and only really suffers from the "low budget, Miami Vice" feel it gives off, not by Dalton's portrayal. And Dalton even smokes in his flicks Dalton>Craig

Fanboy off

 

Go about your business

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Remove Dalton from that list and you might have something, his portrayal is arguably the closest to what the creator of the character had in mind.

 

I wasn't intent on claiming that the actors I mentioned were closer or further from Flemming's intention, rather of what we've come to expect from the character as we've seen in the movies. I was talking about how SirPetrakus's notion that James Bond was like a shallow Inspector Gadget on steroids. And so far, I think Craig has less to do with that idea.

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I was talking about how SirPetrakus's notion that James Bond was like a shallow Inspector Gadget on steroids. And so far, I think Craig has less to do with that idea.

Oh I agree with that statement about the gadgets, but I thought Dalton was able to rise above them (and the weak script) to bring a human element to Bond not really seen since OHMSS, a gadget less film by the way. My personal favorite.

 

Does Craig really deserve credit for the producers finally getting there **** together and going back to the source material they should have been following in the first place?

 

 

To make this about AP

"We have four primary weapons that you can switch between at will during a mission, plus your melee attacks and special weapons and gadgets.

 

Makes me nervous, hopefully the gadgets are not too over the top.

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I think it's a combination of those, more than likely. Dalton wasn't really the issue, since he's a good actor, but his 007 movies suffered from having a truer Bond in a story that didn't care much for it. Craig and Dalton are somewhat close in portrayal, but the edge, as you say, likely comes down to that particular kairos of acting and film making.

 

Which in turn would make the whole conversation a bit pointless, since it's the producers' who usually have a say in the final product.

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Dalton was a good Bond, and he was let down by the script, but no-one comes close to Daniel Craig's Bond. Genuine nutloop.

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To make this about AP

"We have four primary weapons that you can switch between at will during a mission, plus your melee attacks and special weapons and gadgets.

 

Makes me nervous, hopefully the gadgets are not too over the top.

 

I really wouldn't mind if they were NOLF type gadgets tbh. :p

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