Sand Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Rolemaster sucks. 10 hours to make a character. 10 seconds to kill it. Never touching that system ever again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ? As if it's any faster with the new D&D 3.5 rules, with all the feats and skills and multiclassing and whatnot. Once you know the Rolemaster-system, you can easily create a character in 15 min. And if you died in 10 seconds, well.. I'm tempted to ask what kind of DM you had. :D Is it any harder to kill a first level mage in D&D with 10 hps? One should seriously give Rolemaster 2'nd ed (the first system that came) a try. Nothing comes close, honest. It's the most realistic system I've tried, and I think I've played 15-20 different PnP rpgs since the eighties. J. Anyway, sorry for going OT. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The type of GM that wanted to start his campaign with a bang, right into combat, and let the dice land where they may. E Slashing Critical 98. Look it up. I can whip up a DnD character within a minute. No problems. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roshan Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Looks like I'll need to get my hands on some 3/3.5 books soon. I used the 2E books a lot when editing BG2. I like the D&D rules; it's the computer implementation that often leaves a lot to be desired, and no CRPG will ever be as flexible as a human DM with a group of friendly players. Alas, it's easier to find a computer to play a CRPG on than it is to find a competant DM and friendly players. You could edit the experience-related 2DA files if you wanted a long-term change to the way you get XP. That's what I did. I'd rather much rather get 4 XP than zero XP. Sure I don't learn anything from killing yet another orc, but I am getting more combat practice, and practice makes perfect. I even sparred with Sir Nevalle to gain an extra +1 to hit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can spar with Nevalle for a combat bonus? Where? In the keep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deganawida Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Looks like I'll need to get my hands on some 3/3.5 books soon. I used the 2E books a lot when editing BG2. I like the D&D rules; it's the computer implementation that often leaves a lot to be desired, and no CRPG will ever be as flexible as a human DM with a group of friendly players. Alas, it's easier to find a computer to play a CRPG on than it is to find a competant DM and friendly players. You could edit the experience-related 2DA files if you wanted a long-term change to the way you get XP. That's what I did. I'd rather much rather get 4 XP than zero XP. Sure I don't learn anything from killing yet another orc, but I am getting more combat practice, and practice makes perfect. I even sparred with Sir Nevalle to gain an extra +1 to hit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can spar with Nevalle for a combat bonus? Where? In the keep? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right outside the tower. Did it last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 ^ Ah another little thing missed by the game guide. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 The guide is pretty... incomplete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguars4ever Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Wait - there's a game guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Wait - there's a game guide? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguars4ever Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Hallelujah! On a side note, does anyone actually have fingers fat enough to fit these Lawful Good/Lawful Evil rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistrik Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 The guide is pretty... incomplete. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not surprised, I've always found they miss at least 100 things that I find on my first playthrough. And I miss stuff too, so that makes their error even greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 (edited) You can spar with Nevalle for a combat bonus? Where? In the keep? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right outside the tower. Did it last night. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is, of course, provided that you built the NWN9 tower, he wouldn't spar with me when I allowed a mage to settle there instead. Edited November 29, 2006 by Spider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreides Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Got a question from my cousin. He's interested in a monk-berserker build and he's wondering if Weapon Finesse applies to unarmed attacks and whether he can still use Stunning Fist etc if he's weilding kukris. Thanks. Spreading beauty with my katana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aVENGER Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Got a question from my cousin. He's interested in a monk-berserker build and he's wondering if Weapon Finesse applies to unarmed attacks and whether he can still use Stunning Fist etc if he's weilding kukris. Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wait, he wants a Monk/Frenzied Berserker build? Heh, what kind of character concept would that be... a DBZ runaway? :D Anyway, it's kind of hard to pull off since the Monk has to be of a lawful alignment and the FB requires a non-lawful alignment. So, technically, you'd have to advance your Monk levels to a certain point, change your alignment and then take levels in the Frenzied Berserker PrC. You wouldn't be able to progress further as a Monk anymore though. As for Weapon Finesse, IIRC, it should apply to unarmed attacks but I'm not sure about the Stunning Fist + Kukiri thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Should all depend on whether the kukri is a monk weapon. Just changed Khelgar to a monk for the first time - had to lose the armour (heh, nobody in my group wears heavy armour now), but man, is he a (really fast) walking dwarf of doom. Much stronger than with weapons I think, thanks to Stunning Fist, Circle Kick + Great Cleave, the various resistances and the sheer amount of unarmed attacks you get. I just did the final Moire quest in Act 3, and I just killed everyone including Moire herself with Stoneskin + Regeneration + Hasted Khelgar. His "lets show them what you can do now" spell. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Got a question from my cousin. He's interested in a monk-berserker build and he's wondering if Weapon Finesse applies to unarmed attacks and whether he can still use Stunning Fist etc if he's weilding kukris. Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wait, he wants a Monk/Frenzied Berserker build? Heh, what kind of character concept would that be... a DBZ runaway? :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That sounds pretty awesome *makes notes* Khelgar really pwns as monk. He was killing machine as fighter, now he is demigod How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Does Khelgar's character evolve after he becomes a monk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 What do you mean? In terms of dialogue and stuff? I haven't checked that out yet, didn't do much after making him a monk. But I imagine he'd simply get some "now I'm a monk..." dialogue lines, and not much else. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Umm, yeah I guess. I just "monked" him yesterday so hard to say, but in dialogues during making him monk and just after it showed a changed Khelgar. More "monky", though he still ended this conversation with "let's go crack some skulls" so no harm done How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Poor Khelgar being turned into a monk. No more ax swinging for goodness. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Nah, you can give him the axe anyway. My Khelgar is level 16 and has 24STR 24DEX 22CON. It's pretty awesome. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionavar Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 When the female PC says "You Will Feel My Wrath!" in the deep manly voice, doesn't it sound awkward, and you feel funny? ROFL The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Lord Jones Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Hallelujah! On a side note, does anyone actually have fingers fat enough to fit these Lawful Good/Lawful Evil rings? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yeah on my pinky ... can't get 'em on my ring finger lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistrik Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Argh @ alignments. I'm always LG by habit and background, so I have a very hard time playing any other alignment. Yet I wanted to create a Warlock last night. Chaotic? Hah! I'd fail so many times and end up losing the ability to level up. So I went into classes.2DA and got rid of the alignment restrictions. Now I can play a LG warlock and not worry about trying to be something I'm not as far as alignment goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 ^Thats been a major problem for me too. I tend to have a hard time being Chaotic or Evil as I play the game as "myself" and usually pick answers as I would IRL. Between that and my computer (higher middle end system) suddenly chugging to keep up with the frame rates has caused me to not play for a few weeks now. Im not bitching about da rulez, it just made me lose a little interest. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Maybe I'm just weird but every time I look at Sand and Grobnar I see Hugo Weaving and Barry Manilow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deganawida Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Maybe I'm just weird but every time I look at Sand and Grobnar I see Hugo Weaving and Barry Manilow.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Barry Manilow? HAHAHAHAHAAH! "Oh, Wendersnaven, you came and you kept me from dying, but I sent you away!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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