New Info about Revan: spoiler!

[dark chocolate]

alright-

 

so i have an xbox, and a KOTOR 2 game that i sold had a different version of the KOTOR 2 game i have now. usually when i played as the usual male character (guardian,consular), i'd get a clip of Lt. Grenn talking about when you escape citadel station. except he was talking with an ADmiral Cede of the Sojourn.

with the version i have now, Cede is replaced by Carth Onasi. i thought that was a glitch but he kept coming back. then near the end of the game when i come back to citadel station after defeating Nihilus, Lt. Grenn meets up with you and says that admiral onasi awaits. then you get into a converstation with carth about if you had met Revan at all, or knew of his whereabouts. Carth Mentions that Revan gave him orders to keep the republic stable. when you leave, bastilla appears and asks carth "did he know?" then discusses with him that she's afraid they'll never find revan

 

i've never seen this before, so my question is, which version is the normal one? it's frustrating when you suddenly get two versions of a game...

[Wild Storm]

Cede only appears if you tell Atton that Revan went back to Korriban in the beginning of the game. If you said that Revan saved the Republic then Carth will be there.

[Sturm]

nice i didnt know this, wow many things can be effected in kotor2 just by a few words you say at the start

[aerowars617]

The Sith Holocron on Korriban, the Message from T3 when you fully repair him, plus more which I cant remember...

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

All sorts of things change depending on how you answer Attons questions at the start. As well as your gender.

 

Whether or not you can see the holocron on Korriban. Whether Carth appears or you get a different admiral. What NPCs tell you about events. The holgorams etc.

Edited May 8, 2006 by ShadowPaladin V1.0

[HK-47_THE_MEATBAG_KILLER]

is the holo that mical talks to determined by revan's gender and alignment? because i set Revan to DSF and i still saw carth in the holo on dantooine. maybe this is just a glitch.

[Jediphile]

is the holo that mical talks to determined by revan's gender and alignment?  because i set Revan to DSF and i still saw carth in the holo on dantooine.  maybe this is just a glitch.

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For a DSF Revan, Carth should be dead and not appear in the game at all...

 

In fact, Carth should be gone for a DS Revan, regardless of gender.

[Xard]

Yeah, it is glitch

[HK-47_THE_MEATBAG_KILLER]

i assumed as much. in all of my previous games w/ DSF revan, mical is talking to cede. ah, how we love the glitches of TSL. i'm glad i had played this several times, or else i would be quite lost.

 

edit:

all but two. one incident i mentioned above, and another time mical was talking to an empty space.

[Hassat Hunter]

Never got Carth or Cede there...

[martyr]

Why does everyone call the exile revan it isnt him its a compleatly diffrent person <_<

[Hassat Hunter]

Uhum, they talk about Revan... "

 

 

Not the exile

[themadhatter114]

Why wouldn't Carth be alive for dark side Revan? You can't kill Carth in KOTOR1; he just runs away.

[Mellypie]

Why wouldn't Carth be alive for dark side Revan?  You can't kill Carth in KOTOR1; he just runs away.

 

You can if you play F!Revan. If you go darkside at the Temple, and have completed the romance with him, he shows up on that Forge and tries to convince you to turn back, however, you have no choice but to kill him or let Bastila kill him. **cries**

[DeathScepter]

Carth deserves a better death.

[Sturm]

there should be more outcomes, you should be able to see what happened to carth if you set revan DSM, because if you where DS revan carth just ran away, probabally hid somewhere on rakata prime, and then revan z00ming off in the ebon hawk, and as i always say "dont worry the rakatans would have eaten carth alive "

[Guest The Architect]

there should be more outcomes, you should be able to see what happened to carth if you set revan DSM, because if you where DS revan carth just ran away, probabally hid somewhere on rakata prime, and then revan z00ming off in the ebon hawk, and as i always say "dont worry the rakatans would have eaten carth alive "

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I've heard that at some point, DSM Revan does hunt down and kill Carth, but it's not official, I think it's just a popular theory more than anything, but something that supports that theory is that if Carth were still alive (for DSM Revan) then wouldn't he would be the Admiral, not Cede?

 

Although as Mellypie has said some time ago, why would the Republic make someone an Admiral who didn't even try to prevent the return of the Dark Lord? However, if Carth had of tried to stop Revan, it's most likely that he would have failed.

Edited May 10, 2006 by The Architect

[Sturm]

yeah i suppose

[Guest The Architect]

yeah i suppose

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You know, I kind of hope Carth is actually still alive for a DSM Revan, it would be nice to kill him in K3, not that I hated Carth, I thought he was a pretty smart bloke and an interesting well-written character but he was too annoying and paranoid and too pro-Republic for me and since I'm Neutral/DS, I just clashed with him a lot and never really got along with him.

 

Carth should not be brought back in K3 'if' you set Revan as DSF but 'if' you set Revan as DSM, LSM or LSF then he should be in K3, and killable too, well, at least for a DSM Revan considering he wouldn't be the Admiral.

[Sturm]

i agree, i didnt hate carth. people say that he is a whining jerk, but he has his reasons and like you said he was a good bloke and i have to agree. i thought that he should, and his son dustil would have perhaps fit pretty well on telos (carth already is meantioned) dustil says that hes gona go back to telos, and i thought that having him instead of lt. grenn would have been better, because he would have been of significance, not just some jerk old man. and yeah if there is a k3, you should be reunited with carth, and be able to physically talk to him (uncover history ect.) and do whatever later

[Sikon]

You know, I kind of hope Carth is actually still alive for a DSM Revan, it would be nice to kill him in K3

Do you seriously think they will implement all 16 options for K3?

[hawk]

Do you seriously think they will implement all 16 options for K3?

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It would be a shame if they did not.

[Jediphile]

Do you seriously think they will implement all 16 options for K3?

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It would be a shame if they did not.

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Besides, it might not be such a major thing to do. It just comes down to letting the options chosen have clear consequences in K3. That does not necessarily mean writing different plots for each possibility, which is unlikely in the extr...

 

No, it's just not going to happen!

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

maybe carth could get thrown down a giant endless hole on some also giant space station... this sounds too much like Palpy's death...

Edited May 12, 2006 by WILL THE ALMIGHTY

[hawk]

maybe carth could get thrown down a giant endless hole on some also giant space station... this sounds too much like Palpy's death...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Or Kreia's death when you play Kotor II Dark Side.