PhysX on monday

[Bokishi]

So who's planning to get one? I'm still debating. These games look awesome tho:

 

http://www.ageia.com/physx_in_action/footage_physx.html

 

[Judge Hades]

Interesting.

[Moose]

Was only a matter of time. This technology will probably become an industry standard in years to come.

[Llyranor]

The Cellfactor one was quite impressive, especially with the potential of pulling that stuff in multiplayer. The rest was kinda meh.

[LoneWolf16]

Note the slow down in the comparison video. I admit, it looks pretty, but hell...it's as expensive as buying a new video card...after you'd probably have to buy an actual new video card for the games that are coming out.

[Llyranor]

Even if it eventually becomes 'industry standard', most games will likely not properly take advantage of it, or make a gimmick out of it.

 

As new technology emerges, the focus will still likely be on making crap shinier and prettier. There's so much potential for new technology to make major improvements to gameplay itself, but it goes mostly untapped. Next-gen my eye. I want next-gen gameplay.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

I want next-gen gameplay.

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Wii (w00t)

[Llyranor]

[metadigital]

Even if it eventually becomes 'industry standard', most games will likely not properly take advantage of it, or make a gimmick out of it.

 

As new technology emerges, the focus will still likely be on making crap shinier and prettier. There's so much potential for new technology to make major improvements to gameplay itself, but it goes mostly untapped. Next-gen my eye. I want next-gen gameplay.

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nVidia have already announced that any spare power (ha ha! that's a joke) on their video cards will be able to be utilized for PhysX.

[Hassat Hunter]

Yep. Since Nvidia and Havok will put a similar thingie on the new GeForce thingies such a card quickly becomes useless and a waste of money...

[metadigital]

Um, no, that's not the point I was making.

 

Logic dictates that it a new feature is taken up as a standard, then more publishers will encourage developers to add physics calculations to their games.

 

There might be support for PhysX programming on an nVidia card, but that will never be of much use, because the demand of next gen graphics engines will far outstrip the capacity available.

[Ginthaeriel]

So, NVIDIA is gonna team up with these AGEIA guys, to make upgrading a computer even MORE expensive?!

 

Game publishers are trying to trump one another in whatever category they're focusing on, not necessarily just graphics. Back when the whole computer graphics technology was still mired in the bogs, games actually developed more sophisticated gameplay to trump one another. Then 3d acceleration kicked in, and the whole thing has been snowballing it's way so that game developers need to keep up with the graphics landslide to get competitive market share.

 

But how much better can graphics get? Seriously? They're so good that they're indistinguishable from real life... except for the crap animation. I'm thinking that the next "tech wave" benchmark that games will have to compete with is how good their physics are, until the physics are spot on perfect. Then? Then I dunno. Hopefully games will go back to improving and sophisticating their gameplay and, hopefully, at that point games are beautiful enough to be considered art so that more people will focus on the freaking STORY... but that's just wishful thinking on my part I suppose.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Buy a Wii that is the only way to show them that innovation is about more than just graphics.

[Hassat Hunter]

There might be support for PhysX programming on an nVidia card, but that will never be of much use, because the demand of next gen graphics engines will far outstrip the capacity available.

 

Ehm...No...

NVIDIA and HAVOK are actually going to add their own physicschip to the new generation of GeForce cards...

Thus you get graphics and physics-chip in one...

 

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_30478.html

Edited May 7, 2006 by Hassat Hunter

[Bokishi]

Like what meta said, with every new game being a graphics whore, that's going to be a bit impractical

[mkreku]

NVIDIA and HAVOK are actually going to add their own physicschip to the new generation of GeForce cards.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_30478.html

Where did you read about the physics chip? All I could see was that same crap about the power of the 7900GTX and how they'd be using that for physics calculations. I couldn't find anything about any actual new hardware being added?

[Morgoth]

It's just a matter of time until one of the big GPU giants buys out AGEIA.

[metadigital]

NVIDIA and HAVOK are actually going to add their own physicschip to the new generation of GeForce cards.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_30478.html

Where did you read about the physics chip? All I could see was that same crap about the power of the 7900GTX and how they'd be using that for physics calculations. I couldn't find anything about any actual new hardware being added?

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Psst, MKreku

he's trolling

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[mkreku]

Psst, MKreku

he's trolling

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You're the moderator here. If you think he's breaking the board rules, give him a warning.

 

Much more effective than writing an accusation within a spoiler tag, something which makes your own post look like trolling too.

[Surreptishus]

Wait... all I see is more flying debris and the ability to make a mess with boxes. Am I missing the point of this PhysX card?

[Fenghuang]

Yeah.

 

The problem with more flying debris and making a huge mess with boxes, or any physics intensive calculation (for instance a field of grass with independently moving blades of grass) is the way we're doing it now, it generally puts a tremendous strain on the CPU. As more and more games become physics heavy, tasking the CPU and other devices with physics calculations become less feasible, similar to how tasking the CPU with graphics calculations lost it's luster at the beginning of the 3D graphics boom.

 

Basically it's more flying debris and making a mess with boxes without putting strain on your system which makes it possible for more flying debris and messy boxes. Plus how cool would realistic looking vegetation be, I've yet to see this in any game I've played.

[Hassat Hunter]

Where did you read about the physics chip? All I could see was that same crap about the  power of the 7900GTX and how they'd be using that for physics calculations. I couldn't find anything about any actual new hardware being added?

 

Well, they add that HavokFX chip thingie to the card...

It just isn't "the GeForce 7800" has program X and then can process physics, nope... they actually add that physicschip thing to it

 

Psst, MKreku

he's trolling

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Nope, but you are doing VERY bad at your moderator job at the moment... "

[Judge Hades]

Nope, but you are doing VERY bad at your moderator job at the moment...  "

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Do you think that I could do better, or maybe Volourn, or how about Grommie. Okay then stop being so negative on Meta's moderating skills and lighten up.

Edited May 7, 2006 by Judge Hades

[Fenghuang]

Well it's not like they're really careful with the selection processes Visc. I mean, if you're friends with enough of the intertron blue bloods and have nude pics you too can be a mod!

[Dark_Raven]

Personal issues between moderators and users may not be posted publicly (nor through avatar or signature use) and will be deleted without notice.

 

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