Do you look down on people who...

[Musopticon?]

Show-offs, the lot of you.

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[LoneWolf16]

Yes, true, but name a time when the lower actually did a good job when it came to independant thought.

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When deciding to pass on the genes?

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"Deciding" my ass. That's the upper's concern, the lower just focuses on self-gratification.

[Blarghagh]

No. Reasons?

 

First of all, it's their job. They get paid for it.

 

Second, I'm staying as far away from service as I can as long as they keep fighting wars that don't make any dingoing sense. If they had an actual cause to fight for, sure, but now? They can take their war and shove it.

 

It makes me sick to think that the dutch government can just pick a time and bring back drafting. There hasn't been a cause worth fighting for here in 61 years, yet they see fit to meddle in everyone elses business. America's lapdogs, the lot of 'em.

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[Kaftan Barlast]

Its my impression that 95% of Americans who sign up in the armed forces to so because the army will pay for their college education or because of other benefits.

 

 

Myself, I could never be a part of any military. Ive got a bit of a problem with authority, see?

 

 

 

( ..and Eddo is a big, fat troll )

Edited May 6, 2006 by Kaftan Barlast

[Musopticon?]

Well, that goes without saying.

 

Half the forum has a problem with authority. :D

[Lucius]

Damn that authority :angry:

[SteveThaiBinh]

Most people I know who won't join the military (myself included) are probably doing the country a service by not joining. Also, the army seems to have a hard enough time turning people who want to be there into effective soldiers - does it need any extra aggravation?

[Fenghuang]

Its my impression that 95% of Americans who sign up in the armed forces to so because the army will pay for their college education or because of other benefits.

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That's the draw for me. That and fancy computers.

[Diamond]

I don't look down on people who try to stay out of the military, because I'm one of them (and I have a damn good reason to be).

[Xard]

Diamond, you are from Russia, right?

 

Well, not particularly. I think that going army is far better choice than staying out, but it isn't unforgivable. With this I mean Finland. On Russia (or some other countries) situation is totally different.

 

If I would live in Russia, I wouldn't go to army even for 100000 euros :S

[Nick_i_am]

I'd join the army because blowing stuff up is cool.

 

BOOM

[Fenghuang]

That's the spirit Nick! Let's kill some people!

[Diamond]

Diamond, you are from Russia, right?

Yes.

If I would live in Russia, I wouldn't go to army even for 100000 euros :S

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That's right.

Looks like you understand the situation pretty well.

[Lucius]

I was in the army, even though I had drawn a so called "free card" meaning that I could avoid drafting if I wanted to. But I didn't, I wanted in... Wasn't quite what I was hoping for, guess I'd seen Black Hawk Down too many times, but our army was still stuck in Cold War era training and mentality... that and overt homophobia. <_<

 

I hear people get killed in the Russian army training (or something like that), soviet mentality is not quite gone yet or what?

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[kirottu]

I think that going army is far better choice than staying out, but it isn't unforgivable. With this I mean Finland.

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How so?

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[Nick_i_am]

That's the spirit Nick!  Let's kill some people!

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Kill people? Lord no. It's just funny seeing stuff blow up. Or catch fire. Or blow up after catching fire. Or blow up then catch fire afterwards.

 

Basically, any combination of fire and explosions is good, but no dead people.

 

Unless they're NAKED dead people *wink wink*

[LadyCrimson]

No, I don't look down on such folk.

[Diamond]

I hear people get killed in the Russian army training (or something like that), soviet mentality is not quite gone yet or what?

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Unfortunately yes, and occasionally cases like this appear:

The scandal with the hazing incident in the Chelyabinsk military school is gathering steam in Russia. Private Andrei Sychev, who had his legs and genitals amputated as a result of malicious insults and tortures, is staying in severe condition.

Not all the incidents get exposed like this in media though.

[Lucius]

That just makes ya wanna scream doesn't it.

 

I once read something about Russian recruits having been lined up in the freezing snow without proper clothes, a few died as a result of this.

[Diamond]

That just makes ya wanna scream doesn't it.

Yes

I once read something about Russian recruits having been lined up in the freezing snow without proper clothes, a few died as a result of this. 

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I've heard of this one. Pneumonia.

[Lucius]

Yes, exactly.

 

How did you escape it, btw? (in case you haven't already stated it, if so my bad)

[Diamond]

Yes, exactly.

 

How did you escape it, btw? (in case you haven't already stated it, if so my bad)

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First thing is that I'm in the process of getting higher education and hence exempt for that time. But as soon as I finish my degree, I must go to army (unless I'm 27). That problem is solved with... ummmm... yeah... *cough* appropriate papers relating to my health problems *cough*

[Xard]

I think that going army is far better choice than staying out, but it isn't unforgivable. With this I mean Finland.

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How so?

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Well, good question. Dunno actually. I don't look down people who won't go to army or anything, but I prefer army easily over civil service (or whatever the word is). Maybe I just like blowing things up.

 

Oh, at least your physical statis will improve in army. That is reason enough.

 

Meh, this is really hard question for me anyway.

 

There isn't big reason to prefer army. I just, well...prefer to it.

 

Gah, too complicated

[metadigital]

Neither one is more intelligent.

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Bah. Men have two heads(one down and one up) both cabable of independet thinking.

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Pity the smaller one has veto (in most males) ... "

Well, that goes without saying.

 

Half the forum internets has a problem with authority. :D

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Fixed!

[Lucius]

Yes, exactly.

 

How did you escape it, btw? (in case you haven't already stated it, if so my bad)

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First thing is that I'm in the process of getting higher education and hence exempt for that time. But as soon as I finish my degree, I must go to army (unless I'm 27). That problem is solved with... ummmm... yeah... *cough* appropriate papers relating to my health problems *cough*

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Ah I see, one of my friends is doing the same trick. But here you can just cry "I believe guns are evil!" and get some sort of civic duty instead.