NWN2 devchat in 2 hrs

[Atreides]

5-yo's are awesome.

[Nick_i_am]

No, seriously, he's right.

 

Time to upload the 'Battle for middle Earth' flash.

[Llyranor]

I got disqualified for taking stabs at LOTR, the devs, and every revolutionary feature in the game

 

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/Llyranor/b4me.swf

 

The funny part is that I was right about the Xbox BS all along

[Atreides]

I like talking tulips.

[Atreides]

By the way I meant that in a supportive way, not a sarcastic a-hole way. Well maybe a little sarcastic but in a positive "I dig your work" sarcastic.

 

Talking tulips rock.

[metadigital]

The artwork is superb.

[kirottu]

I

[Musopticon?]

*checks RTR 7.0 download off the list*

[Gromnir]

am gonna note that based on chat and some other comments we seen recently, older dev comments 'bout how nwn2 were almost a completely different engine and game from the ground up is seeming likes a great deal of bunk.

 

am recalling, in particular, that josh were quite critical of nwn cleric domain implementation... were something that came up during iwd2 development. nevertheless, it sounds like nwn2 cleric domains is gonna be less than accurate... in spite of josh desire to get the core stuff right.

 

...

 

oh well.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Judge Hades]

They shouldn't be less accurate than NWN 1, unless they really screwed the pooch on it.

[Volourn]

I think they're the same as NWN1. At least that's what i got from it. Menaing, basically, they weren't touched at all.

 

Besides, the NWN1 domain set up, while not an exact replica of pnp, aren't that bad. They get their point across, anyways, and the idea behind them is the same.

[Judge Hades]

One thing I hope they do is put more domains in the game.

[Darque]

One thing I hope they do is put more domains in the game.

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I hope they leave the domain setup as last time where you could pick any two domains, rather than being shackled by "diety" limitations.

[Judge Hades]

If they make it more FR the only way for a cleric to get spells is to be "shackled by 'diety' limitations."

[Dark_Raven]

If they make it more FR the only way for a cleric to get spells is to be "shackled by 'diety' limitations."

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As it should be. If you are a priest, you must worship a god. In favor the god would grant you spells.

[Darque]

If they make it more FR the only way for a cleric to get spells is to be "shackled by 'diety' limitations."

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As it should be. If you are a priest, you must worship a god. In favor the god would grant you spells.

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Not.

 

The way it's done in NWN was very close to what was presented in the Complete Divine.

 

You and your simesetwin fail

Edited April 15, 2006 by Darque

[Dark_Raven]

If they make it more FR the only way for a cleric to get spells is to be "shackled by 'diety' limitations."

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

As it should be. If you are a priest, you must worship a god. In favor the god would grant you spells.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

Not.

 

The way it's done in NWN was very close to what was presented in the Complete Divine.

 

You and your simesetwin fail

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Obviously your logic is malfunctioning today.

[Gromnir]

If they make it more FR the only way for a cleric to get spells is to be "shackled by 'diety' limitations."

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

As it should be. If you are a priest, you must worship a god. In favor the god would grant you spells.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

 

doesn't really work well with core domains and fr gods. bane, as an example, gots hatred and tyranny as domains. sure, you still got choice of evil and law, but those would be only choices. valkur and aerdrie faenya, fringe fr gods at best, sudden becomes real popular 'cause they is only fr gods that offer air and good? poor josh gets stuck with his red knight priest having a fixed choice of law and war.

 

 

nwn were creating a rules system that were gonna be for playing beyond fr... the toolset, as such, has been used for greyhawk and dl and a multitude of custom worlds... and since the bio developers had no hope of making all fr domains available, much less all d&d domains, they stuck with the core... and the core rules allow you to choose any two domains... and there ain't no requirement for worship o' a specific deity. makes sense to us that 'cause rulset had to work for more than fr core would be the default.

 

however, they really screwed the core domains up badly. it not bother us that the domains and spontaneous casting rules ain't even remotely similar to da rules, but if you is gonna throw away the rulebooks, then how do you come up with the woefully unbalanced crap that is the nwn domains? the core d&d domains may not be balanced, but they is a damned sight better than the crazy fr nonsense. unfortunately, the biowarians really did a poor job of implementing the core domains... and numerous bio developers has admitted that even they were displeased with their implementaion of domains... didn't even put up a fight when Gromnir blasted 'em.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Dark_Raven]

If they make it more FR the only way for a cleric to get spells is to be "shackled by 'diety' limitations."

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

As it should be. If you are a priest, you must worship a god. In favor the god would grant you spells.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

 

doesn't really work well with core domains and fr gods. bane, as an example, gots hatred and tyranny as domains. sure, you still got choice of evil and law, but those would be only choices. valkur and aerdrie faenya, fringe fr gods at best, sudden becomes real popular 'cause they is only fr gods that offer air and good? poor josh gets stuck with his red knight priest having a fixed choice of law and war.

 

 

nwn were creating a rules system that were gonna be for playing beyond fr... the toolset, as such, has been used for greyhawk and dl and a multitude of custom worlds... and since the bio developers had no hope of making all fr domains available, much less all d&d domains, they stuck with the core... and the core rules allow you to choose any two domains... and there ain't no requirement for worship o' a specific deity. makes sense to us that 'cause rulset had to work for more than fr core would be the default.

 

however, they really screwed the core domains up badly. it not bother us that the domains and spontaneous casting rules ain't even remotely similar to da rules, but if you is gonna throw away the rulebooks, then how do you come up with the woefully unbalanced crap that is the nwn domains? the core d&d domains may not be balanced, but they is a damned sight better than the crazy fr nonsense. unfortunately, the biowarians really did a poor job of implementing the core domains... and numerous bio developers has admitted that even they were displeased with their implementaion of domains... didn't even put up a fight when Gromnir blasted 'em.

 

HA! Good Fun!

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I said it once, I will say it again, down with third edition rules, stick to using AD&D rules.

[Judge Hades]

Like I said, Grommie, they could add in more domains.

[Darque]

Obviously your logic is malfunctioning today.

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Now come on... seeing as we both know you don't have the book, haven't read the book, and will most likely never read the book... you really can't say that as you honestly don't know.

[Judge Hades]

What is stated in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting and Player's Guide overrides what is stated in the Complete Divine. This is a FR game therefore is restricted to FR canon, at least it should be. COmplete Divine is a "side" book, not a "core" book, and nothing more.

[Darque]

not.

[Judge Hades]

Its how the hieharchy works.

 

You have the core books. Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, and Monster Manual. Expanded Psionics Handbook would be considered a core book if you plan on using Psionics. All core books override any side books, like the Complete Series, if there is a discrepency.

 

Any campaign specific books override the core and side books, if there is any discepency, for that particular setting.

[Darque]

Good for you.