Oblivion First Impressions

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Speaking of items, am I the only one who is suffering from a major cash shortage? Im on lvl10 and I have only scraped together about 3000 gold through various random questing. The magic weapons and armour being offered to me in stores is ranged 5-15000gold, by the time I have that kind of money those weapons will be too weak to use anyway. And buying a horse?! Or a house??!! Then its just crazy sums of gold. Where am I supposed to get enough money to buy wickid weapons and still have enough to buy a 5000g horse and a 25000g house?

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Don't worry thanks to the scaling if you level a bit more you will have cash coming out of your ears :D

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

I'm not talking about the outcome of the plot or how many different endings there are to it, though multiple endings usually are a nice feature in comparison to one set ending.  My point was that games shouldn't necessarily have a story/plot as their main focus, aside from the one you make with your character.

 

Does playing a game only have a purpose if there's a beginning and an end?  No. Those rules do apply to things like movies and books, but not video games.  How is it pointless if you're wandering around doing stuff?  That's supposed to be where the entertainment part comes in.  Do you play games for entertainment, or soley because you want to witness a half-baked story unfold?

 

You're wrong with your last statement as well:  MMORPGs due to their nature have a plethora of negatives holding them down.  MMORPG developers almost always seem to focus on how to keep the player paying, rather than just providing a fun experience in which they can play out the role of a character utilizing the mechanics of the game.  It would be great if someone would break that trend, but it may never happen as long as subscription fees are involved.

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Well MMPORGs dont. Whatever your other disagreements with them.

 

Well the way I look at it is this. I could live in a virtual world (in fact have done if you count my serious EQ time). But I'd rather spend that time in the real world. Playing a game is like a longer version of a book or movie to me. I have no desire to "move in".

 

That dosnt make me wrong. MMPORGs dont have static storylines. Whatever faults they may have dosnt change that.

[10k fists]

Yeah, but all the stuff you use you find in boxes or in the shops...

 

Apparently not... (did visit town though)

 

Yup. You explained stuff like "Elven stuff drops from lvl 15 and not before" and were incorrect. Please try again!

Oh, and you can "explain" the sytem, but if the system does not listen; or is strangely mutated... that doesn't really help. How many times you repeat "enemies should drop Dwarven stuff" I don't get Dwarvenstuff from that in my game of Oblivion...

 

PS. Just looked at some old screens I made when playing Oblivion and it seems I had those Dwarven boots already at lvl 6/7... (only piece of Dwemer I found though... even when meeting 2 bandit-riddled ruins after the town, where I had 2 or 3 levelups already...)

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Your first two comments make no sense, I'll leave it at that unless you wish to clarify.

 

Yes, I explained random drops for elven start at level 15. I was wrong about nothing, as when discussing the level scaling system common sense would tell you we aren't discussing "placed items". Otherwise, ebony armor drops at level 1 because you can go fight Umbra right away. Another common sense approach to it would be that, when trying to tell someone that "X" drops at "Z time", you do not tell them to go to a specific location to fight a specific person to get a specific item. Again, it's random loot on the table of discussion, not placed items. So please, leave the condescending responses for other threads.

 

I'm starting to feel like the majority of people on this forum are incapable of anything but whining, crying, and bickering.

 

The level system for equipment drops ("random drops" for those that don't understand the concept of level scaled equipment) is as I've explained it. There are no exceptions.

[Enoch]

I'm starting to feel like the majority of people on this forum internet are incapable of anything but whining, crying, and bickering.

Fixed that for you.

Edited April 3, 2006 by Enoch

[Tigranes]

Oh, I can smell something burning, I can smell something burrrrrrnnniiiing....

[10k fists]

Super fixed.

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That would make sense had I been whining, crying or bickering. But hey, when the truth hurts, the traditional defense is to try and turn it around to the other person.

 

Predictable.

[Llyranor]

Are you even being quoted?

 

10k fists, meet reading comprehension. Reading comprehension, meet 10k fists.

[LoneWolf16]

He was being quoted...it's just the wrong person in the quote box for some reason. Look at his post before the last.

[LoneWolf16]

Open oblivion.ini in the my games/oblivion map and find bAllowScreenShot=0 (just search the file for Screen and you'll find it), and turn it to bAllowScreenShot=1.

 

Way to hide stuff! Any way too to enable a FPS-counter like MW had (which never reached higher than 10  )?

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Waaay old, but if you want FPS, go into the console with tilde and type tdt then hit enter. I think that does it.

[Shadowstrider]

He was being quoted...it's just the wrong person in the quote box for some reason. Look at his post before the last.

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I'm too lazy to go back and check, so I'll take your word for it. I deleted my previous post. I was not referring to you, 10k fists.

[mkreku]

I miss the good old days (before level 10) when I actually had to struggle for septims.. By the time I reached level 20 I had bought every house in Tamriel and fully equipped them too and still had 100k septims in my pocket (which must be huge by now).

 

That's what you get for throwing 10k septims worth of equipment at you in every autobalanced random encounter in the world!!

[LoneWolf16]

Just found this on the official forums...it's a FAQ full of performance and visual tweaks for a huge variety of things. There's even a way to get your face into the game......through a third party program...and it wont be VERY accurate, but still pretty close.

Edited April 3, 2006 by LoneWolf16

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

I miss the good old days (before level 10) when I actually had to struggle for septims.. By the time I reached level 20 I had bought every house in Tamriel and fully equipped them too and still had 100k septims in my pocket (which must be huge by now).

 

That's what you get for throwing 10k septims worth of equipment at you in every autobalanced random encounter in the world!!

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Yep the little shack in Bravil that I had to save up for meant more than the house in Skingrad.

 

Now I'm playing a new character I dont even bother picking stuff up. Not much point until stuff worth picking up starts to drop.

[Hassat Hunter]

Your first two comments make no sense, I'll leave it at that unless you wish to clarify.

 

Well;

1) All used stuff either is stuffed in boxes, or is bought in shops. Enemies drop nothing you really will use. Not in my experience atleast...

2) You mentioned everybody should walk around in dwarven when level 10. Well I newly found a place at that level and all they were wearing was fur; except 2 outside who had iron stuff...

 

Yes, I explained random drops for elven start at level 15.  I was wrong about nothing, as when discussing the level scaling system common sense would tell you we aren't discussing "placed items".  Otherwise, ebony armor drops at level 1 because you can go fight Umbra right away.  Another common sense approach to it would be that, when trying to tell someone that "X" drops at "Z time", you do not tell them to go to a specific location to fight a specific person to get a specific item.  Again, it's random loot on the table of discussion, not placed items.  So please, leave the condescending responses for other threads.

 

So you tell me the Bethesda devs have a FIXED 40 gold drop behind a Very Hard lockpick? These damn sadists! I think these boxes get pretty random loot... or is every box you find in a random cave handpicked filled with utter crap so the low-levelers cannot find good stuff in the begin? And wasn't Umbra a Orc you fought to dead in Morrowind? Must be wrong, or the guy has a second life...

Please if you go ranting about me talking about Fixed items first check IF I talk about fixed items "

 

I'm starting to feel like the majority of people on this forum are incapable of anything but whining, crying, and bickering.

You have answered this one yourself:

But hey, when the truth hurts, the traditional defense is to try and turn it around to the other person.

 

The level system for equipment drops ("random drops" for those that don't understand the concept of level scaled equipment) is as I've explained it.  There are no exceptions.

 

Once again, prove me that every chest in a random cave is not effected by this... as I haven't found Mega-

Edited April 3, 2006 by Hassat Hunter

[Hassat Hunter]

Let's take a look how correct the statements made before are...

Adventures of the Hassat Hunter... part I.

 

Entering Dungeon X (skeleton filled) while being lvl 11 (gain for 12 reached, but no bed found yet).

 

On the left I find a box right away. After looting the 12 gold inside I can go left or right. I choose left. I whack a rat and a mudcrab and then find a small locked quest (Avarage). Opening it find some gold, a potion and a soul gem. I continue on to find a skeleton. Bashing it reveils it used a silver blunt weapon and a steel shield. Both inferior to my current equipment. Looking further I find some gold and a few lockpicks in that room. One chest even contains Mythrilor armor (but fixed, no, so irrelevant "). After whacking another rat in the ascending room I search the stuff there... just more gold. Another ascending room I find another skeleton. An archer this time. After easily disposing of it I find it only has a steel bow. Lockpick a chest there for some gold and a potion. Dead end. Return to start.

 

Taking the right path now. First meeted enemy is a rat. Easily disposed of. Locked chest contains yet some gold and a potion. I meet up with a skeleton. After using a power attack it drops its weapon. Even if he still has the shield and EQUIPED too, he does not show or use it. Easy frag. Once again only steel stuff. I continue on to see another T-split. Left is blocked though, so I have to go right. Disposed of a rather weak Zombie (why are the headless so much stronger?) when I face the bosss of the Tomb... a Skeleton Hero. With it's rather strong weapon I had quite some fight destroying it. I killed it, but one more hit and I would have hit the bucket myself. It dropped quite an impressive weapon... better than what I found before on a random generated enemy; a Silver Two-Handed Axe. Blunt and not as good as my Elven Sword though.

 

So I pick some bonemeal from the body and notice I become encumbered. I search my Potions tab to find 2 poisons I could use. A 1 lb. and a 0.5 lb one. Attached the 1 lb. and wen't to the FIXED quest in the middle of the room. Look at all the loot! That shield was far better than what I had before, but now I am encumbered again. Let's make some potions of my ingredients to loose weight. After doing so I notice 2 different poisons in the Potions list. A 0.4 lb Damage Fatigue and a 0.4 lb Damage Luck. Where the hell did my old poisons go to? Is the amount of potions shown in the list only a selection? If so, how can you show ALL potions? Or did they vanish due to the new potions? Or does "use this on my blade" use up more potions than it should? I still don't know... but I do know that my Elven Blade (found in a non-endbossfight-box and thus pretty random it seems) and new shield will rock any skeleton I will meet from now on. Keep visiting this place for updates on the adventures of the Hassat Hunter and be carefull when going into scary tombs by yourself; you might just meet a Skelton Hero, or worse, ME!

Edited April 3, 2006 by Hassat Hunter

[Musopticon?]

+5 backstab with a bow...sigh...

[Shadowstrider]

I hate you... But feel free to re-post whatever bad stuff you posted about me, we would hate cover-ups don't we, and this smells like one (maybe the mods should take away the delete option too, just like the edit one?)?

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I called you a whiner.

 

P.S. One word answers your "if I shouldn't get elven swords until 15, why am I getting them at 11" query.

 

Luck.

[Hassat Hunter]

The Impossible adventures of Hassat Hunter -Part II.

 

Still in the same dungeon, still no bed, still lvl 11. When rising from my dungeon inside a dungeon I immediately faced a zombie in a dungeon I thought I cleaned completely. No problems here and I proceed to the next dungeon within a dungeon. A very small one it seems, with only 3 paths to take (left, right, straight ahead). 2 have doors infront so I wen't to the one without door (left) after looting a box. Strange looking thingie there... a trap! Pretty painfull if I might say so. Faced a rat and a zombie; quite an easy bait. It appears zombies love spoons, since this one carries one, just like the one before. Looted the box there and proceeded back to the begin. This time went straight ahead; opened the door and... damn, another trap! Unaware of the fact the thing could hurt me multiple times I actually hit it (and damaged myself) 3 times. The rat I could fight, but the skeleton pwned my ass... RELOAD.

 

Entered dungeon. First looted then went left. Knew about the trap this time saved me some health and I easily killed (again) zombie and rat. Reward from that chest was WAY better than the last time. Wen't the straight forward one. No longer a rat and skeleton waited for me there, instead a ghost and a headless zombie (hate these things). Also aware of the trap here I used it against the zombie. Zombie died pretty easily due to that and then attacked the ghost. Seems elven stuff doesn't work, so switched to some old magical weapon (Debasser). Even if for some reasons (what spells are that?) I occassionaly had to third-person watch me drop to the floor the ghost fell pretty easy. When recharging I wonder why the "corpse" of the Zombie does not lighten up with Detect Life, but the Ghost remains do... loot the room and find... A ELVEN CLAYMORE. Neat, even if I couldn't carry it and had to keep it in it's box. So now I wen't right were I (once again) faced a though Skeleton. A very nasty fight later I noticed the guy carried a ELVEN WARHAMMER. That's right... when I was lvl 11! Quite a feat of me, no, doing the impossible? Anyways, didn't wan't to loose it so I stuffed it in the same box as the claymore, wanting to paste a note on that box like you can in Morrowind since the expansions... WRONG! Why take away functions like that?

Returning to the Right room I lockpicked some box; nothing special (potion and gold) and fetched my "fixed" reward quest. It contained a Dwarven Helmet! Quite alot better than my heavily damaged steel one I was wearing at the moment... but nitpicking as I am just like the boots no random drop. It seems like I hit jackpot now and atlast get the good stuff... Man, I actually start to like this game too (about time!). Well, that's the end of part II; see you all later in the beatifull looking Cyrodiil!

 

Edit; does this mean I actually skipped the Dwarven random drop mode on some whicked reason?

Edited April 3, 2006 by Hassat Hunter

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Traps are funny. If you position yourself so the thing you are fighting is in front of the trap then knock it back it takes tons of damage. You can also swing the trap with certain spells as well.

 

I'm playing around in the Arena at the moment. Which would probably be quite tough if I wasnt carrying an 18 damage weapon. Quite nutty at level 3. Luck definately quite a factor.

 

Soon as DragonQuest VII arrives though it's adios Oblivion.

[Musopticon?]

You can also devise the traps by just grapping onto them and throwing the 'hurting part' towards the enemy. This of course doesn't work so well with logs.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

You can also devise the traps by just grapping onto them and throwing the 'hurting part' towards the enemy. This of course doesn't work so well with logs.

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I killed myself tripping over a log :">

 

By throwing do you mean grabbing it with the left buffer and walking backwards then letting go ?

[Musopticon?]

Something like that. Hold onto it and release and let gravity do it's work. I've killed stuff, myself included( :"> ) with trap physics. Those spikeballs work best of course.

[Cantousent]

How do you pick something up and move it in the game? I still haven't done it, but there's this body on a trap and I'd like to move him off of it so the trap quits springing.

[Kaftan Barlast]

press and hold "z" while having the reticule over the object you want to move. It doesnt work that well though.

[Shadowstrider]

It works fine. You just can't drag a man by his chest (which is logical).

 

Use limbs, head, arms, legs, hell even groin. Grabbing a man by his nipples is not the best way to go...