Judge Hades Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Oh, put in a freer camera control and it would be a winner. What, Metadigital? What?!?!? Why are you looking at me like that?
Hurlshort Posted March 24, 2006 Author Posted March 24, 2006 I've been trying to improve my archery, and I had the most satisfying kill yet. I hit an imp in the head with an arrow at long range, and he went down right away. When I walked up to him, it seriously looked like it was sticking out of his eye. Sweetness.
CoM_Solaufein Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 If they gave us a party and a form of turn base combat using this engine should be very interesting in Fallout 3. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really? War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
metadigital Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 What, Metadigital? What?!?!? Why are you looking at me like that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> turn base combat <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Shadowstrider Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 If they gave us a party and a form of turn base combat using this engine should be very interesting in Fallout 3. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hades will buy and love Fallout 3. He will herald it as the dawn of the new age. He will refer to it as "new Christ." <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dark_Raven Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 If they gave us a party and a form of turn base combat using this engine should be very interesting in Fallout 3. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is amusing of you to say Hades. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Dark_Raven Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 What, Metadigital? What?!?!? Why are you looking at me like that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> turn base combat <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is wrong with turned based combat? It worked wonderfully in the Fallout games. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Musopticon? Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Rollmeister > TBS freakos kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 What is wrong with turned based combat? It worked wonderfully in the Fallout games. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So did using leaves to wipe until someone invented quilted paper. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback]
Dark_Raven Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 What is wrong with turned based combat? It worked wonderfully in the Fallout games. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So did using leaves to wipe until someone invented quilted paper. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> An amusing way to put it. To each their own. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 An amusing way to put it. To each their own. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why would a game similiar to Oblivion need TB combat ? If the only reason is because FO and FO 2 did. I don't think thats good enough. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback]
metadigital Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 What, Metadigital? What?!?!? Why are you looking at me like that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> turn base combat <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is wrong with turned based combat? It worked wonderfully in the Fallout games. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is nothing wrong with it, per se; it's just that you cannot add "turn based" to an engine: everything has to be re-defined in the turn-based method. Non-trivial. And the continuing fascist opinion that "if it's not turn-based, it's not Fallout". OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Dark_Raven Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 My reference was to the Fallout games and similar games that copied them. I prefer games not to be turned based except those that make use of ranged combat extensively like Fallout does. It would not work for me in a game like Baldur's Gate or Oblivion where you use melee as your weapons of choice. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 A lock on feature should sort that out. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback]
Shadowstrider Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 My reference was to the Fallout games and similar games that copied them. I prefer games not to be turned based except those that make use of ranged combat extensively like Fallout does. It would not work for me in a game like Baldur's Gate or Oblivion where you use melee as your weapons of choice. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I use bow and arrow, and spells exclusively on most my characters.
Diogo Ribeiro Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 And the continuing fascist opinion that "if it's not turn-based, it's not Fallout". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just as fascist as "it's Fallout no matter how much we change it because we say so".
karka Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Eurogamer's review is up. Score is unexpected. At least from Eurogamer. http://eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63571
Musopticon? Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Woah. That much from EG?! kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
Lyric Suite Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Eurogamer's review is up. Score is unexpected. At least from Eurogamer. http://eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63571 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bethesda is the new George Lucas...
Musopticon? Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 (edited) I'm a-gonna go kick my friend and ask why he's not rushing to the store yet. Edited March 24, 2006 by Musopticon? kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
Kaftan Barlast Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 A friend of mine has discovered the first gamestopping bug. He can start the game, stand in the cell in the beginning for a minute or so and when the Emperor and guards come, Oblivion makes the computer reboot itself. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. More likely his video card is overheating. Specs? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes thats more likely given that he said he got some sort of bluescreen. Hes using an ASUS laptop with a Geforce 4200 to go. I cant determine the exact laptop model. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Llyranor Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 (edited) Fallout 3 just won't be Fallout without idiotic party members who shoot you in the back. In TES' defense, the one-liner NPCs in Fallout were just as freaking bloody pointless as the idiotic NPC-NPC crapathon in Oblivion, or - *gasp* - even Morrowind's encyclopedias. The difference, of course, is that Fallout didn't consist exclusively of one-liners. From that perspective, the keyword drivel could even be deemed tolerable as a replacement for conversation with unimportant NPCs. A keyword/rumors check could replace a random one-liner; it'd just be tackled in a different manner. This, of course, is no excuse to propagate this disease to the bulk of the storyline. Edited March 24, 2006 by Llyranor (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
Gromnir Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 What, Metadigital? What?!?!? Why are you looking at me like that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> turn base combat <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is wrong with turned based combat? It worked wonderfully in the Fallout games. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> did it? from a publisher pov we ain't sure you could say that tb worked in fo. sales for fo was nice, but not great. publishers needs to ask why fo weren't a great seller. fergie was with interplay and bis during the development and publishing of the fo games, and when asked why he weren't developing tb games post fo2 fergie admitted that it were not a popular feature. hypothesizing on reason for lack of tb approval fergie admitted that even the best tb combat could become "soul numbing." toee, as 'posed to fo, were probably the game that coulda' changed the minds of crpg fans. admittedly, even in toee, which did a much better job with large scale tb combats than did fo, tb could become tedious... but taken as a whole we thinks combat were a positive in toee... one of the few positives of toee. initial sales of toee were very strong... but they trailed off fast. we suspect that word off mouth helped kill toee.... bad rpg elements, terrible writing and bugginess were just tip of the dirty diaper pile that were toee, and the internet were full of people complaining 'bout toee shortcomings. but What If remains to haunt us. what if toee had been developed by non arse-clowns? what if toee had become the start of an ongoing series as it were originally envisioned. what if millions of people had been exposed to pretty good tb combat, as 'posed to a few hundred angry fans who were unable to recall toee w/o either cursing atari or troika (though few people cursed both troika and atari... go figure.) did tb work wonderfully in fo? we don "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Llyranor Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 TB is irrelevant. Look at Civ4's sales. POR2 was #1 bestselling game for 2 weeks in a row, despite murdering the OS. It, of course, plummetted quickly afterwards for those reasons. Had it been a good game, the trend was looking good. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
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