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Now for my WW2 favorites:

 

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The M1A1 Thompson

 

 

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And the M1 Garand

 

Beautiful, aren't they :blink:

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"Victory was for those willing to fight and die. Intellectuals could theorize until they sucked their thumbs right off their hands, but in the real world, power still flowed from the barrel of a gun.....you could send in your bleeding-heart do-gooders, you could hold hands and pray and sing hootenanny songs and invoke the great gods CNN and BBC, but the only way to finally open the roads to the big-eyed babies was to show up with more guns."

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we need to get Mr. Kalashnikov back to making guns :'(

 

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Those guns really look the business, but I hear the performance is to be laughed at.

actually the performance is quite good. It could out perform the origional M16's in any condition.

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Those guns really look the business, but I hear the performance is to be laughed at.

 

I don't know where you heard that :blink: , but if its performance was laughable then it certainly wouldn't be the number one assault rifle since 1947...

 

 

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we need to get Mr. Kalashnikov back to making guns :'(

 

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Those guns really look the business, but I hear the performance is to be laughed at.

actually the performance is quite good. It could out perform the origional M16's in any condition.

Really? I heard the AK-47 has one of the all time lowest accuracies for an assault rifle, having not taken it to be a factor in the design.

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The Russian AK-47 is much for durable than its American counterpart...the original M-16 issued during the Vietnam conflict would get jammed if even the slightest bit of dirt were to get into its parts (Soldiers actually started to tie condoms onto the tops of their rifles to protect them) whereas the AK could be buried in muck for a few days, picked up, and fired without any problem.

 

AK's Strength - It's simplicity of design.

M-16's Strength - Superior accuracy.

 

AK's Weakness - Accuracy is...not so good at range.

M-16's Weakness - Inherent complexity/too many moving parts.

 

Also, the AK is much better for melee combat, having a much, much heavier wood and steel frame, where the M-16 is made of space-age plastic.

 

Basically:

 

AK = Machine gun with rifle capability.

M-16 = Rifle with machine gun capability.

 

Which one is better depends on the situation in which you're using the weapon.

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and I don't know these men I kill

but we all wind up on the same side

'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will.

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The Russian AK-47 is much for durable than its American counterpart...the original M-16 issued during the Vietnam conflict would get jammed if even the slightest bit of dirt were to get into its parts (Soldiers actually started to tie condoms onto the tops of their rifles to protect them) whereas the AK could be buried in muck for a few days, picked up, and fired without any problem.

 

AK's Strength - It's simplicity of design.

M-16's Strength - Superior accuracy.

 

AK's Weakness - Accuracy is...not so good at range.

M-16's Weakness - Inherent complexity/too many moving parts.

 

Also, the AK is much better for melee combat, having a much, much heavier wood and steel frame, where the M-16 is made of space-age plastic.

 

Basically:

 

AK = Machine gun with rifle capability.

M-16 = Rifle with machine gun capability.

 

Which one is better depends on the situation in which you're using the weapon.

 

greatness always has bugs at first.... besides ITS A RIFLE NOT A SWORD

 

if you can't use a rifle at range its not a rifle and i would hope your goal is not to use a dam rifle for melee :)

 

your right its a great gun (unchanged since creation) and classic soviet design (dependable in all conditions and efficient)

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kinda... The 47 is what is so popular because the soviets were making them by the thousand for years. Thus when they had an economic crash they sold as many as they could.

 

The 47 also had some problems in building them. Mainly that they took a block of steel and then just cut it into the right shape and size. the 74 fixes this by the fact that it has machined pieces like the m16 and it also has a longer barrel (allowing for better acc.). The 74 is not used as much because it's a russian only rifle and the russians are not exactly what we'd call military marvels that everyone knows about. (tho the spetznaz rock!) over all the 74 just took somthing good and made it better.

 

On a side note Kalashnikov (the designer of the AK 47) made his first gun during WWII but it was turned down because of some buracratic reason. His first gun was much better than the ones that the soviets used during the Stalingrad fight.

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