darthbass123 Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 You thought that was hard?!?! You only need about 3 influence gains w/ him. On the first planet u travel to u should get him to a jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enha_Dyone Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 You thought that was hard?!?!You only need about 3 influence gains w/ him. On the first planet u travel to u should get him to a jedi. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's just a little hard when you play darkside and want to gain influence with him... "Revan was power. It was like staring into the heart of the Force. Even then, you could see the Jedi he would slay etched on his soul." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I liked the character alot but this character could have been alot more. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> With his history with the Eile and the Mandalorian wars they should have done more with him. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 (edited) I personally liked Bao-Dur. But I suppose one can like/dislike him depending on how you presumed your (Exile's) former association with him in the War. Since the Exile was a general and Revan as an Admiral, and I refused to take that my character was a whimp, I presumed that while Revan was a brilliant strategist, Exile was more or less equal to Revan, but was more talented as a general leading small squads of specialists (Bao-Dur included of course) for special operations (and frankly, the whole Mass-Shadow Generator business sounds like a special operation to me). In this setting, I envisioned that Exile's association with Bao-Dur was fairly close. With that assumption, I had a great time with Bao-Dur on the team as a "silent" member (more like "Mr. Spock" of Ebon Hawk for me), since the Exile and Bao-Dur knew each other so well direct conversations were rarely needed. And as an engineer and a former special-force veteran who had seen "too much", I found his silence relatively believable. (heh, my second playthrough on Telos surface (not polar region), I even left Atton with Kreia at the crashed shuttle, and stormed the mercenaries and the old military base with Bao-Dur.... just like the "old" times)) Having said all that, I was really disappointed that an engineering genius such as he didn't make himself a special "gun" to even the odds when he was fighting Czerka guys alone on Telos. I half-expected that he'd made himself a repeating blaster that allows him to shoot faster (rapid shot), and longer range and higher power, etc. Edited October 4, 2005 by rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridolinXXVI Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 (edited) Also, I was lightside and I still couldnt get him to go jedi. Until I came to this forum I didnt even know that was possible. The only thing I could ever say to him was "Never Mind" That pissed me off SOOOOO much!!!! I was missing a lens, and wouldn't let me build a lightsaber. :angry: I even used a savegame editor to give myself every lens in the game, but he still said I was missing one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dude, you need the lens fixture from that guy you find in a room in the bottom of the jedi enclave on Dantooine. The actual lenses are only for customization and bonuses (like the crystals) Regarding the Krath Holy Battle Armor, that was my team armor for, like, the entire second half of the game. Every single character who could wear medium armor I put with Krath Holy. It was so cool. For some reason I felt like I had my own personal army with standard armor. Triple post merged in this new one -Battlewookiee Edited October 4, 2005 by Battlewookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 (edited) the whispering is sooo annoying but on korriban, in the tomb, when he says: you're threateing atton with a lightsaber and I'm just supposed to ignore it? No... the no part is totally creepy... Edited October 4, 2005 by WILL THE ALMIGHTY "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooly Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 bao-dur was a great character. he didnt want to talk about the war which is why he doesnt tell you any war stories. i like his voice cause it had a nice sarcastic tone to it. especially on nar shadda when he says. "i'll take the stupid one who decided to speak instead of shooting when he had the chance." all in all he was a pretty well developed character but i would have liked to know a little bit more about his back story from before he joined the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) Because of all the destruction Bao-Dur has seen and caused, i figured it's natural that he's taciturn. The exile and Bao-Dur bonded without talking much, just because of the history they had: being in a war together. Bao-Dur obviously felt bad about what he had done. He was no Canderous who sought war and thought it was glorifying. So for Bao-Dur to be realistically sane, it is right that he doesn't say much or speak about the war often. Traveling alone a lot makes you reserved and thinking rather than saying like he does. Plus it's fun having your own Darth Maul in your party running around and chopping off limbs with you. Edited October 5, 2005 by Blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealUltimateNinja Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Here's a guy who had fantastic potential...but just wasn't flipped out enough in the end. Being a 3-line-wonder on the Ebon Hawk didin't help his cause too much either. Facts: 1. Ninjas are mammals. 2. Ninjas fight ALL the time. 3. The purpose of the ninja is to flip out and kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxen83 Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 If there was a background that led to his story of how he operated as a tech in the Mandalorian Wars with the Exile on Malachor, which would involve which homeworld or planet he came from, the character would have been much deeper. Deep from within... Victims live a life of fantasy. Some see salvation as an act of God, a few look within for it. 朱宣澧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGwar Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 WTF? you guys need help. OR kotor 3 either way. get a life. the sun wont burn you. Boa-dur is a giant lizard with a brain that is all! ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Or a darth maul that speaks. (more than the other one anyway) "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxplayer008 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Bao-Dur was wikkid awesum! :cool: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If by "wikkid awesum" you mean wicked gay then yes, you are correct sir. I hated the voice acting and after he became a jedi he wouldnt say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adzd Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 he nver says anything anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namirsolo Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 I wish he had more depth to him. I love his voice and I think he had a lot of potential. What the heck is up with the prima guide saying that he might "sacrifice his life for me"? That was never played out. It pissed me off how Kreia wouldn't talk to me about him at the end. She said he was "cloudy" again but I guess that's because he was dead according to cut content. And what is the point of going through the trouble to point out that Kreia can't read Bao-Dur's mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14884_1556103668 Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 I loved his relationship with the Exile (re: mandalorian Wars) and the mutual respect that is shared between them. His voice was awesome...and I would rehash old lines just to hear him again... I loved his character, and had him with me the majority of the time. As a Jedi, he is pretty unstopable The one thing that really irks me, is that there could have been so much more done with him, and a romantic interest would have been brilliant... HA...Imagine Attons disgust at more competition... MORE plot? "Nevermind"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 [quote name=' War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jedi Master D Murda Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I like how Bao Dur seems to be important somehow. I think people have realized the fact that Kreia can't seem to read Bao Dur's mind but the Exile can. Also you basically learn everyone's fate but Kreia says that Bao Dur's path is unknown, hmmm.... :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namirsolo Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I like how Bao Dur seems to be important somehow. I think people have realized the fact that Kreia can't seem to read Bao Dur's mind but the Exile can. Also you basically learn everyone's fate but Kreia says that Bao Dur's path is unknown, hmmm.... :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think that's more to do with the fact that he's dead according to the cut content. She says he is "cloudy". I guess the part that she can't read his mind is supposed to be foreshadowing of the fact that he's really the one who kills her plans and makes sure she loses. She could have lived with the Exile killing her, Kreia's own life was never that important to her. She had loftier goals than rulling the world. She wanted to RUIN it. She didn't forsee Bao-Dur deciding to destroy his mass shadow generator and therefore destroying the planet and all her plans. I see it as she just doesn't care about a lowly technician and that is what kills her. I also wish Atton had some way to redeem himself like getting her back for the way she treated him, but oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Master D Murda Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Well if you ignore the cut content, it's cut content afterall, he still seems mysterious. If Kreia doesn't care about a lowly tech why care about the others? I'm sure she doesn't care about the others if she doesn't care for Bao Dur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namirsolo Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Well if you ignore the cut content, it's cut content afterall, he still seems mysterious. If Kreia doesn't care about a lowly tech why care about the others? I'm sure she doesn't care about the others if she doesn't care for Bao Dur. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I meant care as in she overlooks him. She goes through the trouble of wondering why she can only read pazaak from Atton's thoughts. If you ask her about not hearing anything from Bao-Dur I'm pretty sure she makes some reference to him being an alien and just passes it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhan225 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 people will either love or hate Bao -Dur depending on what they see in him. I personally liked him because I wanted other species jedi in my party and he was a tech wiz. I think Kreia overlooks him because she cannot read his mind as she does the others...which I now see D Murda mentioned. anyway this may play a role in KOTOR 3. He amy not be a NPC, but maybe a key plot character. His anger could lead him down the the path of the dark side...just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14884_1556103668 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Off topic slightly....As much as I love Bao-dur...he is starting to irk me in my new game...whatever I do, I just cannot get him to become a jedi...Disciple was no probs, and Atton was a little bit more tricky...but Bao-dur? This time round he is near impossible!!! :angry: How much can you possibly influence him? I have done loads, and he is not far off 100% LS, but still no go....I will probably have better luck with Mira...although I so wanted Bao-dur in my Jedi team But, as a character, you just got to love him...I love deep the connection that he has with the exile, and I believe that he is the only one that truly understands her...and that he is behind her 100% no matter what (lol, okay, I always play LS female....) :D Besides, you just gotta love those horns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x1Predator Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) Bao-Dur wasn't very cool in KOTOR II. If they only would've allowed Jedi Robes and more strength to him. He is a quite dull character in my opinion. His voice sounds gentle and a little creepy at the same time. If only he were more like Canderous. (Just so everybody knows, Mandalore IS Canderous. Kreia spills it at the end of the game if you ask her about Mandalore's fate.) "Canderous is a slippery beast...." or something like that. Sorry bit of a spoiler there...my bad. Edited October 20, 2005 by x1Predator If money is the root of all evil.....why is the world not destroyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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