Oerwinde Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 You do realize that QA testing IS beta testing right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not where I work. Two completely different things testing for two completely different reasons. Oh, did you believe that you were QA testing Windows XP Professional x64 Edition when you downloaded the beta and the successive RC1 and RC2 editions? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Beta testing is part of the QA process. Beta testing = QA. Both achieve the same thing for the same reasons. Unless where you work has a different definition that the rest of the world doesn't know about. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity.
mstormrage Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 Beta testing is part of the QA process. Beta testing = QA. Both achieve the same thing for the same reasons. Unless where you work has a different definition that the rest of the world doesn't know about. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Beta testing != QA (Quality Assurance) Beta testing = (a very small) subset of QA And you will find that this definition is standard in every reputable software development firm. At least in our firm we are our own publisher so we don't have to play second fiddle to anyone else. And, no, customers are not supposed to be beta testers (LA/OE, are you listening to that part?).
Blazewamp Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 Well LA are sertanly taking there sweet time, i feel sorry for Obsidian having to take all this moaning, i mean we could moan of the LA boards ...but have any of you been on those boards there just weird
Haitoku Posted May 17, 2005 Posted May 17, 2005 99.99% that post on those boards are missing a chromosome.
Prydeless Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 For people who still think that Obsidian was rushed to complete the game before Christmas. http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/575/575166p3.html It is true in a way that they were forced to complete KotOR II before Christmas because the article seems to imply that they were contractually obligated to finish it by November so shouldn't Obsidian take some of the blame for agreeing to such an unrealistic deadline? As for the lateness of the high quality audio & video patch, it's probably because KotOR II is no longer a priority, high medium low for LA. Everyone should just go on the LA boards and spam them to high hell over and over and over with multiple threads demanding that they release that patch.
Oerwinde Posted May 18, 2005 Posted May 18, 2005 For people who still think that Obsidian was rushed to complete the game before Christmas. http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/575/575166p3.html It is true in a way that they were forced to complete KotOR II before Christmas because the article seems to imply that they were contractually obligated to finish it by November so shouldn't Obsidian take some of the blame for agreeing to such an unrealistic deadline? As for the lateness of the high quality audio & video patch, it's probably because KotOR II is no longer a priority, high medium low for LA. Everyone should just go on the LA boards and spam them to high hell over and over and over with multiple threads demanding that they release that patch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well it looked like it was a choice between no job, or unrealistic deadline. Not much of a choice. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity.
Naso Posted May 20, 2005 Posted May 20, 2005 Well, seen RotS, but still waiting on a full, (non-beta, actually fixes stuff) patch, being able to swoop-race, and decent resolution movies. Thanks.....
Eplebit Posted May 21, 2005 Posted May 21, 2005 How difficult can it be to release movies in higher resolution? They just have to watch them to know if they're right ornot. It's not like they have to play through the game 200 times to make sure.
SteveThaiBinh Posted May 21, 2005 Posted May 21, 2005 How difficult can it be to release movies in higher resolution? They just have to watch them to know if they're right ornot. It's not like they have to play through the game 200 times to make sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They're probably trying to think of a way to charge us for it. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
metadigital Posted May 21, 2005 Posted May 21, 2005 How difficult can it be to release movies in higher resolution? They just have to watch them to know if they're right ornot. It's not like they have to play through the game 200 times to make sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They're probably trying to think of a way to charge us for it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, yeah, I know: Director's Cut KotOR:TSL! :D OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
jedipodo Posted May 21, 2005 Posted May 21, 2005 "Curious about how Henchmen work? bla blah..." Hell, no, we are curious about the release date of the KotOR2 patch! <_< "Jedi poodoo!" - some displeased Dug S.L.J. said he has already filmed his death scene and was visibly happy that he
GMan2 Posted May 21, 2005 Posted May 21, 2005 How difficult can it be to release movies in higher resolution? They just have to watch them to know if they're right ornot. It's not like they have to play through the game 200 times to make sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They're probably trying to think of a way to charge us for it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yup....And it will be called an "Expansion Pack" " D*mn con artists! (Dual-Boot)Windows XP Pro (32 - Bit) SP3 & Windows Vista Ultimate (SP 1) 64 Bit | Intel Dual Core 2 Quad 6600 @ 2.4 Ghz | 8 GB Corsair DDR 3 Ram 1600 mhz | GeForce 9600 GT 512 MB PCI Express X 3 SLI enabled | NVidia Forceware Drivers 181.22| EVGA nForce 790I-SLI Ultra MOBO | Thermalake 850 Watt PWR |
Naso Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 Beyond the high-res movies patch, doesn't the current one being x.xx*B* imply that we should, at least, get another one that actually fixes stuff?
Mark Havel Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 How difficult can it be to release movies in higher resolution? They just have to watch them to know if they're right ornot. It's not like they have to play through the game 200 times to make sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The "high resolution" movies could be cut-scenes handled by the game engine. Anyway, it should not be so difficult to test them and see if they work correctly.
Evil Penguin Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 Beyond the high-res movies patch, doesn't the current one being x.xx*B* imply that we should, at least, get another one that actually fixes stuff? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As far as I know the B does not signify that it is a beta or anything like that. It's simply the successor of the A version of the patch which only fixed some minor manual issues in the "UK" (European English) version. How difficult can it be to release movies in higher resolution? They just have to watch them to know if they're right ornot. It's not like they have to play through the game 200 times to make sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The "high resolution" movies could be cut-scenes handled by the game engine. Anyway, it should not be so difficult to test them and see if they work correctly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There could very well be non-technical issues too. Let's just hope that the music/cutscene patch doesn't get stuck at LA.
Dire Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Traded my game in last friday. Finally gave up hoping for LA/Obsidian to sort themselves out.
McRell@ Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Well, I have not been watching the Great Patch Waiting Festival since May, 8th and what do I see? No patch yet! No comments, guyz, who would test movies and music in a month? Pathetic... :|
paragongrid Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Here's a little bit of info from the May issue of Wired magazine. Lucasarts is moving shop to a public park by the Golden Gate Bridge, along with Industrial Light and Magic and the Lucasfilm marketing,online, and licensing units. The new facility is called the Letterman Digital Arts Center, and the move is expected to finish sometime in July. Sounds like they're a bit busy! Might be the reason why they're taking so long, but that's just a guess.
Mark Havel Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 They are not forbidden to say this on their sites. I would have been a bit more patient if I knew the reasons of such delaying...
JamieKirby Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 They are not forbidden to say this on their sites. I would have been a bit more patient if I knew the reasons of such delaying... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You never know whatever they are doing besides the movies and music....they might be completing the game like they should have done from the beginning.
Evil Penguin Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 They are not forbidden to say this on their sites. I would have been a bit more patient if I knew the reasons of such delaying... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You never know whatever they are doing besides the movies and music....they might be completing the game like they should have done from the beginning. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Considering that it's not Obsidian who are delaying the patch but LucasArts, nothing points in that direction. And I don't think it's very probable that any huge changes to the game will be made at this point.
Antagonist Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 It unlikely that anyone still workes on the game. It has been months since the release and Obsidian already has two new titles in production. I guess that there won't be any further patches beside the one announced.
JamieKirby Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 well, companies don't care about us, all they want is the cash and then they are off....well Lucasarts had better grow out of it because they are starting to look more and more like Microsoft. Eventually, they are probably gonna make us activate games everytime we install it and then we will have toi phone them up if we change a single piece of hardware....if they any companies do that for games, i am totally going give up on games and trust me, that will take them quite a profit down fall. Since they *violate* the laws by protecting their games so roughly, i HAVE to buy several copies from the store, while one is the one i play, the others are backups. I never understand why CD Writers and CD Writing software is legally sold and it is frowned upon. really dumb. GET OVER IT AND GET RID OF THE PROTECTIONS!!
Mark Havel Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 This don't have anything related to the topic... Well, I think it's time to mail Lucas Arts to ask them what's the f*ck about the content patch...
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