Cantousent Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 What a terrible test. I would laugh if I weren't so tired. HAHAHA! I'm laughing anyhow. The questions are absolutely horrid... and not by accident. The questions are intentionally geared for a left of center response. How about a test in which the first question is something like: "Do you believe that all material possessions should be taken from every individual in society and distributed evenly among the masses?" The very nature of the question colors the result. That's why questions should be as neutral as possible. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRowe Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 What a terrible test. I would laugh if I weren't so tired. HAHAHA! I'm laughing anyhow. The questions are absolutely horrid... and not by accident. The questions are intentionally geared for a left of center response. How about a test in which the first question is something like: "Do you believe that all material possessions should be taken from every individual in society and distributed evenly among the masses?" The very nature of the question colors the result. That's why questions should be as neutral as possible. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, really. There is a reason that most people are getting results saying they're liberals, and it isn't because they all are liberals. "Working for Davik was like driving a spike in the side of your head. Sure, you got something new up there, but in the end, you've lost something as well." - Canderous "But I though Jedi weren't allowed to love." - Handmaiden "But some do it anyway. We call it pulling a Bindo." - The Exile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Ya there should be more right wingish questions like, "Do you think rich people should be exempt from taxes, because they spend more money then everyone else and really drive the economy." "Do you think that pro-lifers should be able to kill abortion clinic doctors?" "Shouldn't christianity be shoved down everyones throat in evrything thats state or nationally funded?" "If you president went to war over a certain pretense say WMD and then it came out that they had lied to you about there existance, would you still follow him blindly?" "Since PBS or NPR can't really be manipulated by individual corporate means, or even faith based organizations, do we really have any use for them?" "Should people who like Alice in Wonderland by C.S. Lewis be killed?" "Wasn't blacklisting really a good idea?" People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 OMG I'm a communist. Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -8.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.26 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You should be wearing red instead of green, Darque. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just you wait, I'll have to find my communist character avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Bunch of radical fanatics the lot of you (well with an exception or two) I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 The questions are intentionally geared for a left of center response.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> you are correct. besides, there were several questions that i did not agree with the answers... i mean, there were some that i either had no opinion on (not an option) or felt the answer had a "well, it depends upon circumstances" portion that need to be addressed. not everything is black and white, even though i may preach as much. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Ya there should be more right wingish questions like, "Do you think rich people should be exempt from taxes, because they spend more money then everyone else and really drive the economy." "Do you think that pro-lifers should be able to kill abortion clinic doctors?" "Shouldn't christianity be shoved down everyones throat in evrything thats state or nationally funded?" "If you president went to war over a certain pretense say WMD and then it came out that they had lied to you about there existance, would you still follow him blindly?" "Since PBS or NPR can't really be manipulated by individual corporate means, or even faith based organizations, do we really have any use for them?" "Should people who like Alice in Wonderland by C.S. Lewis be killed?" "Wasn't blacklisting really a good idea?" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Apparently, we've found the person who wrote the questions for the survey in question. He's even come here to share some new questions he intends to put into the next survey. I'm sure we'll get an equally legitimate outcome for that survey as well. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I ended up slightly "south" of Stalin... I need to work on my diplomacy again. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Ya there should be more right wingish questions like, "Do you think rich people should be exempt from taxes, because they spend more money then everyone else and really drive the economy." "Do you think that pro-lifers should be able to kill abortion clinic doctors?" "Shouldn't christianity be shoved down everyones throat in evrything thats state or nationally funded?" "If you president went to war over a certain pretense say WMD and then it came out that they had lied to you about there existance, would you still follow him blindly?" "Since PBS or NPR can't really be manipulated by individual corporate means, or even faith based organizations, do we really have any use for them?" "Should people who like Alice in Wonderland by C.S. Lewis be killed?" "Wasn't blacklisting really a good idea?" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Apparently, we've found the person who wrote the questions for the survey in question. He's even come here to share some new questions he intends to put into the next survey. I'm sure we'll get an equally legitimate outcome for that survey as well. Ownt - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deganawida Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 "Should people who like Alice in Wonderland by C.S. Lewis be killed?" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry, but before you attribute an author's name to a book, make sure that you have the right author. Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass. Clive Staples Lewis wrote "The Chronicles of Narnia", The Screwtape Letters, and other works. The first took pictures of naked preteen girls, the latter was a highly respected author and professor. Biiiiiggg difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 ^ when you really get down to it .. what is the big difference?? :ph34r: Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B5C Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I dont remember my number, but I do remember that im just above George W. Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 "Should people who like Alice in Wonderland by C.S. Lewis be killed?" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry, but before you attribute an author's name to a book, make sure that you have the right author. Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass. Clive Staples Lewis wrote "The Chronicles of Narnia", The Screwtape Letters, and other works. The first took pictures of naked preteen girls, the latter was a highly respected author and professor. Biiiiiggg difference. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For some reason as of late I seem to be making alot of mistakes like that lately, maybe remembering the terror the Jabberwokkie visited upon me as a child was too much. As the actual statement I stole it from an article in Harpers where rent a center lost a class action law suit for making managers take this absurd test, I believe the article was called Inquire Within. As for my other quetsions they're fairly obvious enough that my 6 yr old niece could infer them after watching a half hour of Bill O'Riley and his constant references to "bomb throwers" People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 OMG I'm a communist. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You know, almost everyone's a communist if you ask the right questions. Yet almost everyone says "I hate communists!".. I suspect a lot of people don't know what it means to believe in communism. Communism is a good system that is easily abused by ruthless people. If everyone had equally high moral standards, communism would probably work. In a perfect world.. When I lived in a dorm I used to annoy my right-wing dorm mates by asking them all these leading questions (where I knew how they would answer) and then silently show them the definition of a communist. When they realized they'd answered the questions "the communist way" they almost started crying. At least they all became very angry. Great fun back in the day! Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deganawida Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 The same argument, mkreku, can be used for true anarchy. However, the problem with all of these ideological political systems (of which anarchy and communism are the most famous) is that they all require the same levels of commitment, maturity, and participation from each member of a state/society. Such, unfortunately, will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRowe Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Ya there should be more right wingish questions like, "Do you think rich people should be exempt from taxes, because they spend more money then everyone else and really drive the economy." "Do you think that pro-lifers should be able to kill abortion clinic doctors?" "Shouldn't christianity be shoved down everyones throat in evrything thats state or nationally funded?" "If you president went to war over a certain pretense say WMD and then it came out that they had lied to you about there existance, would you still follow him blindly?" "Since PBS or NPR can't really be manipulated by individual corporate means, or even faith based organizations, do we really have any use for them?" "Should people who like Alice in Wonderland by C.S. Lewis be killed?" "Wasn't blacklisting really a good idea?" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Apparently, we've found the person who wrote the questions for the survey in question. He's even come here to share some new questions he intends to put into the next survey. I'm sure we'll get an equally legitimate outcome for that survey as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Working for Davik was like driving a spike in the side of your head. Sure, you got something new up there, but in the end, you've lost something as well." - Canderous "But I though Jedi weren't allowed to love." - Handmaiden "But some do it anyway. We call it pulling a Bindo." - The Exile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRowe Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 The same argument, mkreku, can be used for true anarchy. However, the problem with all of these ideological political systems (of which anarchy and communism are the most famous) is that they all require the same levels of commitment, maturity, and participation from each member of a state/society. Such, unfortunately, will never happen. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, you can lead most people down any political path if you ask the questions right. And most couldn't really tell you what a communist or an anarchist is. "Working for Davik was like driving a spike in the side of your head. Sure, you got something new up there, but in the end, you've lost something as well." - Canderous "But I though Jedi weren't allowed to love." - Handmaiden "But some do it anyway. We call it pulling a Bindo." - The Exile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Communism is a good system that is easily abused by ruthless people. If everyone had equally high moral standards, communism would probably work. In a perfect world..<{POST_SNAPBACK}> no, communism is not a good system. it is not inherently evil in and of itself, but it does deny individual rights and, it does lie by convincing its people that "someday the government won't be needed." i'd say that makes it dishonest at best... taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 no, communism is not a good system. it is not inherently evil in and of itself, but it does deny individual rights and, it does lie by convincing its people that "someday the government won't be needed." i'd say that makes it dishonest at best... taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I can somewhat understand the idea of the "lack of competition" arguement against communism, but calling it evil? People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 no, communism is not a good system. it is not inherently evil in and of itself, but it does deny individual rights and, it does lie by convincing its people that "someday the government won't be needed." i'd say that makes it dishonest at best... - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Communism is a good system that is easily abused by ruthless people. If everyone had equally high moral standards, communism would probably work. In a perfect world..<{POST_SNAPBACK}> no, communism is not a good system. it is not inherently evil in and of itself, but it does deny individual rights and, it does lie by convincing its people that "someday the government won't be needed." i'd say that makes it dishonest at best... taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Communism doesn't have government. You're thinking socialism. Communism is just Anarchy with laws. A communist revolution calls for a socialist transitionary period, which is where communism fails. Here it is the government's job to prepare the population for communism, but the government at that point is usually corrupt and is just trying to hold on to its power. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Well never know what anything would be like in the Marxist worker's eutopia, because it never has existed. The clostest thing was briefly in Spain before Franco got his facist backing, but in reality that situation more presented anarchy in a favorable light. One of the best books I've ever read was Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell really gives a very vivid and as far as I can tell an accurate account of this brief time in human history People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 OMG I'm a communist. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You know, almost everyone's a communist if you ask the right questions. Yet almost everyone says "I hate communists!".. I suspect a lot of people don't know what it means to believe in communism. Communism is a good system that is easily abused by ruthless people. If everyone had equally high moral standards, communism would probably work. In a perfect world.. When I lived in a dorm I used to annoy my right-wing dorm mates by asking them all these leading questions (where I knew how they would answer) and then silently show them the definition of a communist. When they realized they'd answered the questions "the communist way" they almost started crying. At least they all became very angry. Great fun back in the day! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually I have no problem with communism, if you could get rid of the inefficiency, I think it'd work far better than the virus emulating system the fake-democratic enviromentally damaging capitalist free market system the US has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random evil guy Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 a lot of authoritarian people here; or should i say fascists and commies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 I'm with taks in thinking it's a terrible system, although I shy away from the term evil. Socialism is not the answer. Still, the survey does show that most folks agree on broad issues. The details throw eveything askew. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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