Ivan the Terrible Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 Give me an open-ended Shadowrun game, and I will be quite happy. I made this half-pony half-monkey monster to please you But I get the feeling that you don't like it What's with all the screaming? You like monkeys, you like ponies Maybe you don't like monsters so much Maybe I used too many monkeys Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Lilac Benjamine Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 Alright then. Obsidian should secure the rights to System Shock 3. For those of you who havn't played System Shock 2, it's an RPG/FPS hybrid that makes Doom 3 seem about as scary an only slightly scary microsoft employe in a scary zombie mask. It's *so* damn good. IMO better than Half Life 2, and it came out in 1998!
Darque Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 Bio-Shock (System Shock 2's "spiritual successor") is already being made by Irrational games and is due out in 2006.
envida Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 As long as it's not another setting from the old times with all the magic, knights and stuff. Something more futuristic would be cool. Something in the line of Deus Ex maybe.
Ivan the Terrible Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 Something more futuristic would be cool. Something in the line of Deus Ex maybe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Shadowrun, baby, Shadowrun! Not only is it a damned cool setting in and of itself, it has all the features Chris Avellone seems to work well with in games: dark setting, morally ambiguous characters, and the potential for whores whores whores, so many they outnumber all the other types of characters in-game combined! Well....ok, that last one, maybe not so much. Then again, a proper Shadowrun game needs to be more open-ended than story-driven, and while MCA has excelled at the latter my opinion is he has yet to prove himself in the former. Nevertheless, someone out there needs to make another damn Shadowrun game. I made this half-pony half-monkey monster to please you But I get the feeling that you don't like it What's with all the screaming? You like monkeys, you like ponies Maybe you don't like monsters so much Maybe I used too many monkeys Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Ludozee Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 A fantasy game in R. Feist's Riftwar setting. Something like the old Krondor games, but then bigger and better. Maybe something with the freedom of Morrowind and the depth of BG. That would be brilliant.
Judge Hades Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 I prefer a sci fi with out any fantasy elements.
EnderAndrew Posted December 27, 2004 Posted December 27, 2004 Bio-Shock (System Shock 2's "spiritual successor") is already being made by Irrational games and is due out in 2006. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Irrational has been making some rather good/fun games as of late.
Rhomal Posted December 27, 2004 Posted December 27, 2004 NO. No more freaking DnD. A completely and totally original title. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed, I'm sick of fantasy games. Especially DnD... though Eberron "might" be ok since it's "odd" enough. Obsidian should beg Microsoft for the rights to do a Shadowrun game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Couldnt agree more. A well done 3E SR game would be a excellent PC game I would love to see made. SR is a well developed game system with a very interesting background. Admin of World of Darkness Online News News/Community site for the WoD MMORPG http://www.wodonlinenews.net --- Jericho sassed me so I broke into his house and stabbed him to death in his sleep. Problem solved. - J.E. Sawyer --- "I cannot profess to be a theologian; but it seems to me that Christians who believe in a super human Satan have got themselves into a logical impasse with regard to their own religion. For either God can not prevent the mischief of Satan, in which case he is not omnipotent; or else He could do so if he wished, but will not, in which case He is not benevolent. Fortunately, being a pagan witch, I am not called upon to solve this problem." - Doreen Valiente --- Expecting "innovation" from Bioware is like expecting "normality" from Valve -Moatilliatta
Judge Hades Posted December 27, 2004 Posted December 27, 2004 I would play Shadowrun but still, I would prefer no fantasy.
MortalHarmony Posted December 27, 2004 Posted December 27, 2004 I'd rather they stuck with DnD. I think they will do so for commercial reasons if nothing else. Look at what happened to Black Isle with Lionheart. A 3d, 3.5 edition version of BG would probably do well. If they could convert BG1, BG2 and both expansions at the same time they'd have a monster smash on their hands.
Judge Hades Posted December 27, 2004 Posted December 27, 2004 Lionheart was a fantasy game, and a lame one at that. Fantasy has become boring.
Darque Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 Exactly, it's old, it's been done, and it needs to be pushed to the side. Look at how many fantasy games have come out lately, the concept is so boring that companies seem to be trying desperately to come up with new ways to present it... and always come short. Baring Shadowrun... I'd love to see a basic Cyberpunk setting.
EnderAndrew Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 Lionheart was a bad game. Saying that "getting away" from D&D equals failure is silly. There are tons of D&D titles that fail despite the license. Anyone see how D&D Heroes sold? What about Demon Stone? Plenty of great RPGs have sold well that have had nothing to do with D&D. You can get away from D&D and have a successful game. Lionheart failed because no one advertised the game, and the game wasn't fun to play. The built-it fanbase who enjoyed the Black Isle games were immediately turned off at the idea of butchering SPECIAL and jumping to real time combat.
Judge Hades Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 Ender struck it on the mark. A SPECIAL based fantasy game might have been interesting but only if it was done right. Lionheart wasn't done right.
Darque Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 I think another problem is that they attempted to cover too many bases. SPECIAL Check... REAL TIME DIABLO-COMBAT, HEALTH/MANA SYSTEM and EQUIPMENT SYSTEM Check... Some things aren't meant to be mixed and matched.
Judge Hades Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 If they kept turn base and equipment style of Fallout Lionheart might have been better recieved.
EnderAndrew Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 During development they called it Fallout Fantasy. It couldn't have been further from the truth.
Iyanden Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 something to do with ninjas. everyone loves ninjas... and it hasn't been done before! or go sci-fi and do something with warhammer 40k, great universe. or what about a remake of that one sci-fi game, that really old one...where you had to type text to get your char on screen to do stuff (like, if you wanted to push something, you had to type out "push chair"..and if you spelled it wrong, it didn' work)...
EnderAndrew Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 Space Quest? I'd LOVE to see a game set in Rokugan. Legend of the 5 Rings.
Aponez Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 Warhammer 40k... would love to be a kick ass inquistor rooting out good and evil and everything else that is suspect... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, Warhammer 40K, but not only inquisitors PRIUS FLAMMIS COMBUSTA QUAM ARMIS NUMANCIA VICTA
Judge Hades Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 Warhammer 40K is a war game, not a RPG.
Phosphor Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 Warhammer 40K is a war game, not a RPG. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, and Warhammer Fantasy Role-Play is the RPG companion to Warhammer Fantasy Battle. No reason a WH40K RPG wouldn't be possible.
Judge Hades Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 Possible, yes. Plausible, no. Lets keep the games in their proper genres, okay. When you start crossing genres like that you will only end up with crap. Case in point, FOPOS and Demonstone.
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