The Coordinator Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I am taking sides, but my KOTOR (I have it for PC only) game still experiences weird freezes and crashes even after all those patches I got. This is what that guy means, PCs tend to have problems like these sometimes. Still, I have had my consoles just freezing whole suddenly, but that's rare. But it happens. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Several games that are released for the "aged" consoles these days press them to their limits. If you experience a crash many reasons could be possible. Possibly a driver issue, hardware limits; hardware combinations/driver communication difficulties; insufficient cooling of: graphics card, prozessor, mainboard northbridge(!)*, ram(different types may cause read errors etc.); hdd (though rarely an issue, it may depend on the individual product); problems with the OS (using service packs can help-especially for win2k). *I experienced crashes some day. I found out that the cooler of the northbridge was defect. I removed the old one and installed a new passive cooled one..> no chrashes anymore =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure79 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I believe there are devs in the K2 team who just love Star Wars! They will come through for us with some extra content just for the satisfaction of creating something within the SW universe! Let this be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegeri Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I am taking sides, but my KOTOR (I have it for PC only) game still experiences weird freezes and crashes even after all those patches I got. This is what that guy means, PCs tend to have problems like these sometimes. I have only ever had 2 crashes in the original game and that was completely unpatched, in fact, to date I have never bothered patching KotoR. Personally, sometimes it can be hardware or other incompatibilities, but I've begun to realise that blambing the PC is just a cop out for the real problem. That problem usually exists between the chair and the keyboard in more cases than people are willing to admit. Boss: You're fired. Me: Ummm will you let me have my job if I dance for you? Boss: No, I don't think so- Me: JUST LET ME DANCE *Dances* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield3d Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Voodo graphic cards were released much later than the 386s <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So? You still can have a 386 with a voodoo card, right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, that depends. My 386 system (an AMD 40 MHz Am386DX that was faster than any Intel 80386) only had ISA slots on the motherboard. I'm not sure if any 386 motherboards were ever made with PCI (or even VLB) slots. I also highly doubt that there were ever any Voodoo cards made for ISA bus (although I could be wrong), since the ISA bus was too slow to really make it worth it, and it was obsolete before 3D accelerated graphics were used in games. - Kasoroth <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Same thing here. 386 didn't have slots for the Voodoo 1 (most namingly, PCI slots). Not to mention the API issues you might get with a card and drivers that old.... --Garfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiCK-LeSS Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 they should give us PC'ers some stuff that wasnt in the X-box version as a "were sorry" for the long wait. hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 they should give us PC'ers some stuff that wasnt in the X-box version as a "were sorry" for the long wait. hehe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another Yavin store with cool items perhaps? War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Grendel Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 the poor international X-boxers wont get anything. Exactly! I am half-tempted to start using my PC again for playing games, but it's just so much hassle keeping the technology up to date and working hard to get the right drivers and patch a game to make it work. That's why I stopped, the expense and the time But having the extra features/tools that PC games sometimes carry is tempting... :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiCK-LeSS Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 they should give us PC'ers some stuff that wasnt in the X-box version as a "were sorry" for the long wait. hehe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another Yavin store with cool items perhaps? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> sounds cool. (w00t) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jast Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I didn't read through the whole thread but I think the PC version will be more polished. Polished including getting real sith npcs instead of the old placeholder type "townspeople" type npcs from Kotor I. It REALLY messed up the feeling when the "Sith Lords" mouths' didn't move and they were wearing cilvilian clothes. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Makaan Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 more polished i doubt it, both games should be essentially the same in respect. as for extra content i fully expect it, the only reeson xbox wont get it is cos tsl wont be live compatable <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well pc kotor1 was a bit smoother but just as buggy and didn't look as pretty as the xbox version. with the lightsaber most noticably the beutiful glare and bloom of it. in the pc version they looked like X's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 more polished i doubt it, both games should be essentially the same in respect. as for extra content i fully expect it, the only reeson xbox wont get it is cos tsl wont be live compatable well pc kotor1 was a bit smoother but just as buggy and didn't look as pretty as the xbox version. with the lightsaber most noticably the beutiful glare and bloom of it. in the pc version they looked like X's Sounds almost (from your description) as if you made the same mistake as I did on my first run throug the game. Once I discovered that little toggle button under advanced video settings it became a very different visual experience. It made the x-box version look somewhat outdated by comparison. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coordinator Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 more polished i doubt it, both games should be essentially the same in respect. as for extra content i fully expect it, the only reeson xbox wont get it is cos tsl wont be live compatable <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well pc kotor1 was a bit smoother but just as buggy and didn't look as pretty as the xbox version. with the lightsaber most noticably the beutiful glare and bloom of it. in the pc version they looked like X's <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sounds almost (from your description) as if you made the same mistake as I did on my first run throug the game. Once I discovered that little toggle button under advanced video settings it became a very different visual experience. It made the x-box version look somewhat outdated by comparison. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly! Once you turn on the whole "effect mumbo jumbo" (high quality textures,shader, AA, AF, soft shadows) you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Makaan Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 nah that only pretties up the environment. sabers still look like x's. i turned frame buffer effects but it only pretties up the environment. i tried all that above still does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 With some of the reviews commenting on the bugs in the XBox version, do you think that once our PC version is released in 2 months time, we'll get a more polished version? Or are these kinds of bugs inherent with this engine that KOTOR uses? What about items? Do you think newer items will be included, or is it too much to ask and too late in the development process for some small "extras" to pacify us? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You'll get better graphics but you still have most of the bugs if not more but they'll be fixed in a patch soon enough. Nothing extra, Chris has already said by the end of development the two versions will be the same. Also there is like 5 people finishibg the PC version. "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coordinator Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 nah that only pretties up the environment. sabers still look like x's. i turned frame buffer effects but it only pretties up the environment. i tried all that above still does <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Makaan Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 radeon 9700pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 The PC version will most likely be buggier at reelase simply because of the various combinations that need to be tested and likely will be missed. But, at least it'll get patches (we hope) so even it out a bit. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 The PC version will most likely be buggier at reelase simply because of the various combinations that need to be tested and likely will be missed. If that's the case then I'm really worried about the PC version, considering how many people seem to be having issues with the XBox version and the type of game stopping issues they are. But, at least it'll get patches (we hope) so even it out a bit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's my only consolation, knowing that if there are major issues atleast there's a possibility of a fix. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naso Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Possibility to fix it. Key word there: possibility... I'm pretty worried about this one now. It sounds like a mess and they haven't delivered on promises. Maybe I'll start my LA boycott early... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oherror Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Voodo graphic cards were released much later than the 386s <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So? You still can have a 386 with a voodoo card, right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> no because of the motherboard the 386's and 486 only had ISA slots on them no PCI slots the voodoo cards were ment for the p one chipset. besides you would have to have an expansion card to hold the other 8 megs of ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spook Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 With some of the reviews commenting on the bugs in the XBox version, do you think that once our PC version is released in 2 months time, we'll get a more polished version? Or are these kinds of bugs inherent with this engine that KOTOR uses? What about items? Do you think newer items will be included, or is it too much to ask and too late in the development process for some small "extras" to pacify us? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You'll get better graphics but you still have most of the bugs if not more but they'll be fixed in a patch soon enough. Nothing extra, Chris has already said by the end of development the two versions will be the same. Also there is like 5 people finishibg the PC version. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think they said it will be amost the same, whatever that means..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 They said that along time ago so i wouldn't get my hopes up if i was you. "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naso Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 They've said a lot of things..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Well LucasArts have supported their games fairly well. I dig the fact that you can still download patches for ancient games of theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naso Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 Well LucasArts have supported their games fairly well. I dig the fact that you can still download patches for ancient games of theirs. Wow. Just wow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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