lightsaber

[Zach Morris]

All the starwars games I play they always seem to make the lightsaber weaker than it really is. I know that if they made it that it could cut through almost anything it might take away from the gameplay. What do you guys think? Is there a way to make a lightsaber realistic and the game be fun? Or is 2-16 damage good enough for you guys?

[Carth Vader]

The lightsaber is fine with me the way it is.

[KOTORFanactic]

I think it is fine the way it is also.

[DSLuke]

Sometimes I thoguht it was weak in Kotor. But again it was the best weapon you could get and so it should remain for KOTOR 2. I wouldn't mind if you could kill your saber-less opponments a bit easier though, like Jedi Knight style. It seems weird that you have them slaced by a lightsaber several times in order for them to die.

[Ameorn]

Yeah, i mean this is an RPG, so it wouldn't be very much of a challenge if you could cut through your oponent in 1 swing of the blade...

[Judge Hades]

Well, compared to blasters the lightsaber is uber powerful. Add in the right crystals you can do 40+ damage. Personally I think that lightsabers are too powerful, or the blasters, rifles, and other weapons are too under powered. Hell, on a regualr basis my scoundrel/guardian type character that I played did on average 60 points of damage per hit.

[DSLuke]

Well it isn't a common RPG it is a Star Wars based RPG, either way I don't really mind as long as the lightsabers remain the most powerful weapon by a big margin.

[Judge Hades]

Oh yes. We must keep the force users a munchkin class and make the game absolutley no challenge. Wouldn't want the "casual" gamer actually use his head or anything.

[Ameorn]

Oh yes. We must keep the force users a munchkin class and make the game absolutley no challenge. Wouldn't want the "casual" gamer actually use his head or anything.

 

Please don't start a stupid fight about that again on another topic... We already have the "Death topic" for that. It's pointless to continue, you have to see that.

[Gheralt]

In my experience, a pair of Barangwin Assault Blades with flurry active gave the lightsaber a run for its money. Of course, there was no real incentive to refrain from the double bladed lightsabers of DOOM, but such is life.

 

--Gheralt

[Judge Hades]

I am just sick of seeing CRPG after CRPG being turned into unchallenging clickfests that gives no risks to the player characters.

[Jedi Master D Murda]

The saber works fine in my opinion. There were a bit to many though, but it is before the Jedi purge I guess.

[DSLuke]

Oh yes. We must keep the force users a munchkin class and make the game absolutley no challenge. Wouldn't want the "casual" gamer actually use his head or anything.

 

Please don't start a stupid fight about that again on another topic... We already have the "Death topic" for that. It's pointless to continue, you have to see that.

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I totaly agree.

Hades don't start again....

[Judge Hades]

Sorry, for wanting a good challenging game. I just think that the lightsaber is overpowering and needs to be toned down quite a bit.

[DSLuke]

Well you have some Sith to fight who also happen to have lightsabers and you would look kinda stupid if a guy with a blaster came around and blasted you to pieces.

 

it is Star Wars after all.

[Judge Hades]

Its also an official d20 System product and a CRPG.

[Craigboy2]

All the starwars games I play they always seem to make the lightsaber weaker than it really is.  I know that if they made it that it could cut through almost anything it might take away from the gameplay.  What do you guys think?  Is there a way to make a lightsaber realistic and the game be fun?  Or is 2-16 damage good enough for you guys?

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Well in the movies, if you get shot once, you fall down.

[Laozi]

I think that the saber combat could be a bit tweeked. Although after awhile I think everyones character could kill most opponents in one or two rounds, and that against an aware opponent then thats pretty accurate.

 

My problem is that with Stasis. If an opponent was totally at your mercy then you would be able to kill your opponent with one strike

[Judge Hades]

I did.

[Gheralt]

Pish-posh. In the movies, you only got shot if you were an inconsequential character, and if you were a Storm Trooper, you could forget being accurate unless your target was a big, huge, Jawa-operated scavenger do-hickie.

[Rosbjerg]

Pish-posh. In the movies, you only got shot if you were an inconsequential character, and if you were a Storm Trooper, you could forget being accurate unless your target was a big, huge, Jawa-operated scavenger do-hickie.

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yeah always laugh a little to myself when Obi says that the stormtroopers are extremely accurate! more so than Sandpeople, even though they are able to hit a podracer going very fast .. and the Stormtroopers couldn't hit a stationary target 2 feet from them!

 

I for one agree with Hades_one here .. to a degree .. I felt the ordinary weapons were way underpowered! although a Lightsaber can cut through almost anything a blaster could kill in one shot just the same! and it should be alot more accurate considering it shouldn't have any recoil! the damage of a Lightsaber shouldn't be downgraded but the blasters should give more ..

[DSLuke]

I don't think that lightsaber are overpowered. :cool:

 

But it seems that blasters and the other types of guns were too weak.

[Judge Hades]

At least we agree on something.

 

I hope they upped the damage of blasters, not that my character will have any use for them. <_<

[Planar Jedi]

And grenades should kill someone instantly, am i correct or not?

[213374U]

Well you have some Sith to fight who also happen to have lightsabers and you would look kinda stupid if a guy with a blaster came around and  blasted you to pieces.

 

it is Star Wars after all.

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Watch AotC again.

 

Anyway, the lightsaber being too powerful/not powerful enough issue is more of a bad conversion from the D20 system than anything else. You see, in the D20, vitality points don't actually represent a character's resistance to damage, but their ability to avoid lethal damage. These increase with levels and are replenished at the end of the fight. The true toughness of a character is represented by his wound points. These have the same value as their CON score, and aren't increased with levels. When a character is hit, the damage is substracted from their vitality points. When a character runs out of vp, they have 'run out of luck', and the next attack causes real physical damage. Considering that the average CON score is around 12, you can see that most characters will be killed in one or two shots from a gun, and will hardly survive a lightsaber blow.

 

It's interesting how in the D20, only characters which have access to PC classes have vitality points, meaning commoners, stormtroopers, battle droids, and the sort only have wound points, thus reflecting the 1-hit-kill feel from the movies.