thepixiesrock Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 It is easy to beat malak with blasters. I have used blasters quite a few times and I must say, they are more effective then light sabers. I couldn't block blaster bolts sure, but I killed my oponent faster. I "dished out" 50+ damage each round. My oponent couldn't deflect my shots when I used master rapid shot... Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethCarrots Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 so you used ur pc as a ranged character all the way thru, did you encounter any difficulties with that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 No I did not. I would go with jolie and another ranged character... Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethCarrots Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 what about fighting yuthura and the other dude on korriban, in fact all the fights where ur on ur own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 When you are close range with a blaster you almost never miss. They went down quick... Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastilla_Skywalker Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 i love the yellow lightsaber because it is brighter and cooler Press Teh Button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jedi Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 I used a blue and yellow combo sabre with juhani and it really looks good on her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 I wonder when we are going to get screen shots of the Silver and the white lightsabers? at first I was going to use maybe blue or something tradional but I think I am going to try a saber staff with the silver crystal. "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jedi Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 heck I beated malak with a few thermal detonators and he couldnt get a hit in just kept falling over or tripping on his stupid cape thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwarskid15_19 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 i already voted blue but after reading the ign article i say that i want the special one that changes color as u get more evil or good the force is what gives a jedi his power. its an energy field created by all living things. it surrounds us and penetrates us. it binds the galaxy together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonarch Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 If only we knew the spectrum within which it changed colors... And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Gannonslayer Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Black saber mod was one of the best mods... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> whooooo, i thought that the black saber crystal was just a myth. could you only get that in the kotor 1 pc version or xbox 2? And has black been confirmed for knights 2? if you can get the black crystal someone plz tell me how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Black saber mod was one of the best mods... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> whooooo, i thought that the black saber crystal was just a myth. could you only get that in the kotor 1 pc version or xbox 2? And has black been confirmed for knights 2? if you can get the black crystal someone plz tell me how <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The mod was for only the PC version since you can't mod an Xbox game. The mod is for the original KOTOR not KOTOR TSL, there isn't any mods yet for TSL that I know of anyway. "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksoloran Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Red for Darkside Blue for Lightside duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Am I the only one who thinks Black is the dumbest idea for a lightsaber color? Since it isn't possible to get black light. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksoloran Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Am I the only one who thinks Black is the dumbest idea for a lightsaber color? Since it isn't possible to get black light. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You're not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Bakhtavar Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 So what? This is a fantasy (if you don't accept midichlorians)/sci-fi game. Everyone should be able to get the color they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barzarel Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 It may be possible to create a dark light saber, using dark matter and force manipulation, but even if so possible it would be far superior to common lightsaber since dark matter create a space without light do to implotion create dark energy above speed of light black holes and such, so even if it would be possible i doubt youd see it. Second i picked lightsaber according to class if gaurdian(blue), sentinel(yellow), counsulor(green), Sith(Red). So it hard saying any specific to that. However i think a white light saber might be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 It may be possible to create a dark light saber, using dark matter and force manipulation, but even if so possible it would be far superior to common lightsaber since dark matter create a space without light do to implotion create dark energy above speed of light black holes and such, so even if it would be possible i doubt youd see it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The only problem with that is (saying I am correct) dark matter has an infinite mass (or next thing too it) so it would be cool to use but no one could ever lift it! (w00t). As for a Black saber being possible, well I do belive that the only way to explain how you could create it would be to say by the power of the plot, if the plot calls for it then it shall be done. "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSun Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Heh,just can't seem to stay out of these debates... There's a big technical explination on how a saber works but the general concept behind the color is:Color of the crystal=color of the blade. Dark crystal,dark blade color. Does that fit with science,not in the least. Doesn't really need to though. Keep in mind we're talking about a game and not placing something like that in movie or novel. One of the big selling point to this game is choice,just look at the tag line they're using. So in a game such as this why should someone not be allowed to use something like a black saber? I've had the whole "Black Saber Debate" a number of times both online and off. There's three main reasons I've heard in all the debates. 1)The S.D.U. It's stupid,dumb,and ugly is pry the most used excuse but it also holds least amount of water. It's subjective as hell, because you personally feel way that doesn't mean everyone does and as such is not a valid reason to deny people the right to use an option in the game. It's an option,if you don't like it don't use it. How someone plays their game should have no effect on how you play yours. I personally hate the look of yellow and orange sabers but my personal taste shouldn't take away from someone who does like how they look. 2)The Purist It would ruin the feel of things. This one is broken up into two groups. -A)The Movie Only Group. This group likes the SW movies,normally the OT only but a number like the Prequels as well. -B)The Movie/EU Group. This group likes the OT,usually dislikes the Prequels though some do enjoy them,and loves the EU. Both groups says that something like a black lightsaber would ruin the feel of game. Now with both we're right back to,it's an option and if they don't like it they don't have to use it. How someone plays their game has no effect on how they play theirs so if they don't like an option there's no need for them to use it but that's not a valid reason to deny someone the right to play their game their way. And with group B,they seem to forget that a lot of the things they love in the EU are considered by some to "ruin the feel of things". Now the Big one. 3)Science and Physics. People will try and use the laws of real life science and physics try to state that because it's against the laws IRL it's impossible in SW. However the problem is there's a large number of things inside the SW universe that go against the real life science and physics. I could name them all but I'll use the two that are big in this debate because of the role in SW and in the debate itself. A)The Force. It's Impossible according to science and physics to: -Lift objects with your mind. -Choke someone with your mind. -Blast high energy bolts from your hands. B)The Lightsaber. The weapon itself is against the laws of science and physics. So why then is it so important that something like the blade color,of a weapon that doesn't fit with science and physics laws,fit with said laws? It's a double standard,if you're going to use science and physics as a way to judge something,it needs to be applied evenly and fairly to everything. To prove it's not possible you need something from with in the SW universe that says as such,real life science and physics doesn't work because they don't apply. If they did then half of the SW universe couldn't be used because it would go against said laws. If you can suspend you belief in science when you blast lighting out of your PC's hands,why is it so hard to do so for something like this? And even if you can't,it's still an option that if don't want to use you don't have too. The important thing to remember in this situation is that it's a game that's built around choice and options. So if LA and Obsidian wanted to place something like that into a fictional setting and world,long as it's option you don't have to use it. In this fictional setting RL science doesn't apply. Only thing that really applies is how many options Obsidian/LA wanted to place in the game. My Little Disclaimer:I have no clue if something like that is in the game nor am I saying it will be. Just saying it's possible based on how much Obsidian/LA wanted to offer up and/or push things depending on how you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksoloran Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I am "The Purist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSun Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 So I noticed. Great thing about options though, you can still play as a purist even if someone else doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 3)Science and Physics. A)The Force. It's Impossible according to science and physics to: -Lift objects with your mind. -Choke someone with your mind. -Blast high energy bolts from your hands. B)The Lightsaber. The weapon itself is against the laws of science and physics. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> umm.... who says the laws of science as we know them are correct from the prospective of the univerese? I mean for a species that only in the last 100 years managed to split the atom, whos to say that we aren't wrong on alot of things? I know there are going to be people out there who are going to say because science is infalable, well thats not exactly true because it was created by humans and as such is inhairently(sp?) flawed. Humans have a tendency to rule out or dissmiss entirely what they don't understand. While I am not saying that a lightsaber is possible right now but who says it couldn't be in another 1000 years? Another thing is the adverage human only uses between 3 and 10% of the full potental of their brain, meaning that its entirely possible that someplace in our brains lies the possibility to do such acts (move objects, crush thing, shoot lightning with our thoughts), just at the present time we are either haven't reached a highenough evolutionary level or have already lost the ability to access thoses parts of our brains. "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I agree with Silver, even though I'm the purist as well. If people want to have black lightsabers, they will end having them, be it through legit game items or via mods. It would ruin the feel for me, but not everyone is me. For as long as NPCs and/or enemies don't have black lightsabers, it won't bother me. Another thing is the adverage human only uses between 3 and 10% of the full potental of their brain, meaning that its entirely possible that someplace in our brains lies the possibility to do such acts (move objects, crush thing, shoot lightning with our thoughts), just at the present time we are either haven't reached a highenough evolutionary level or have already lost the ability to access thoses parts of our brains. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is one of the statements most repeated by pseudo-scientists and psyche-gurus. There is no way to thoroughly check how much of the actual brain capabilities are being wasted. Maybe it's true that sentience only takes up to 10% of total brainpower, but nature doesn't give freebies. If the rest of the brain served no purpose or wasn't being used, it would not be there. Sorry, I don't think we'll be force-choking each other to death anytime soon. SW is NOT sci-fi. It's futuristic fantasy. There is no point in trying to methodically explain everything Lucas comes up with. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSun Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 umm.... who says the laws of science as we know them are correct from the prospective of the univerese? I mean for a species that only in the last 100 years managed to split the atom, whos to say that we aren't wrong on alot of things? I know there are going to be people out there who are going to say because science is infalable, well thats not exactly true because it was created by humans and as such is inhairently(sp?) flawed. Humans have a tendency to rule out or dissmiss entirely what they don't understand. While I am not saying that a lightsaber is possible right now but who says it couldn't be in another 1000 years? Another thing is the adverage human only uses between 3 and 10% of the full potental of their brain, meaning that its entirely possible that someplace in our brains lies the possibility to do such acts (move objects, crush thing, shoot lightning with our thoughts), just at the present time we are either haven't reached a highenough evolutionary level or have already lost the ability to access thoses parts of our brains. I'm the last person that'll try and say that science is perfect and can't make mistakes. Everything you said is true,it's based off the information we have now. Something could very well come a long and change that at some point in time. The same thing could be said for the what we know and the way we look at light as well. My point was using science and or physics to try and explain why something is impossible in a fictional world in which a number of things go against known laws of science is not only flawed but a double standard. BTW,you're weclome for the link. I didn't want to send another PM just to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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