Gsccc Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 As far as I've heard, there will be no toolset. Did microsoft get to Obsidian too? They said it was because they had no time, but I knew that was lying crap. I cant take this bullcrap honestly, unless there are cheats to spice the game up a bit after you finish, I don't really see the point. We all know the reason they wont release the toolset is that microsoft want crazy corrupt people to actually buy the game on xbox. I don't ever remember this happening in neverwinter nights. All I or any other modder could ask for is a simple toolset, I'd be glad to wait for it. What greater advantage is there to be able to, once finished with a game, be able to continue it with your own story, to bend it to your will. I'm sorry if this is useless flaming but I just had to get it out. I'm just glad that Frank is working on a "map editor". Hope it works with KOTOR:TSL too. Please don't take it personally. ____________________________________________________________________ Lamenting, CM GSCCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirus Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 If they made a toolset, they'd have to use tilesets. Which would make the game look like crap. Plus a user friendly toolset would take alot of time to create. So in short: STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsccc Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 I do believe I said DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY!!!! I was just venting so cursing me out wasn't necessary at all it's just bad debating. In short I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirus Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I do believe I said DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY!!!! I was just venting so cursing me out wasn't necessary at all it's just bad debating. In short I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK You'd rather they take another year to make a toolset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsccc Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 I do believe I said DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY!!!! I was just venting so cursing me out wasn't necessary at all it's just bad debating. In short I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK You'd rather they take another year to make a toolset? Now that is better. However, I do think that since obsidian is making the game now that perhaps they can do the radient editor or something like that, not quite user friendly but not impossible to use, and it doesnt use tiles. But once again, I was just venting, I had to get it off my chest for the hard work my friends have done at holowan Laboratories. As i said before, sorry if i offended anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirus Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Now that is better. However, I do think that since obsidian is making the game now that perhaps they can do the radient editor or something like that, not quite user friendly but not impossible to use, and it doesnt use tiles. But once again, I was just venting, I had to get it off my chest for the hard work my friends have done at holowan Laboratories. As i said before, sorry if i offended anybody. I'm not really familiar with the Radiant editor, but it would be nice if they released it for the modders. Though I think the real issue is with Luca$ and not Microsoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix19-15-5 Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I do believe I said DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY!!!! I was just venting so cursing me out wasn't necessary at all it's just bad debating. In short I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK You'd rather they take another year to make a toolset? Now that is better. However, I do think that since obsidian is making the game now that perhaps they can do the radient editor or something like that, not quite user friendly but not impossible to use, and it doesnt use tiles. But once again, I was just venting, I had to get it off my chest for the hard work my friends have done at holowan Laboratories. As i said before, sorry if i offended anybody. Didn't offend me. Reverse engineering's a bitch, as the folks o'er at Base 16 Entertainment, home of the KotOR AE total conversion will tell you. <guffaws> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorwen Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I've been in a hole for awhile. Did Obsidian suddenly say the were supporting modding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsccc Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 I understand, I tried once using the module creation tutorial but it was just too darn frustrating because I can't see what is going on in front of me. And now frank has been silent for a week so i dont know whats going on. However as a modder, I do like the looks of that KOTOR:AE mod and respect the time it takes, I was going to make the conversion that continued the story after the darkside ending, attacking the core worlds and claiming your true authority over dreshdae. I guess, being Irish, i can get pretty heated up over a stupid thing. Thank God for Frank, mabey he will just make more tools for TSL. But is there going to be cheats like before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'JN Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 Flaming on forums like this just doesn't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 THis is KotOR 2, not NWN 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsccc Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 flameing?? i dont remember doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 He was just "venting"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'JN Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 flameing?? i dont remember doing that Well, I use the term loosely. There is plenty of pent-up anger and hostility on this forum though, and when it seeps out, it's always toned down to a playground level. It's a shame things always go from one extreme to other. A little balance would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsccc Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 He was just "venting"... LOL, good good, touche, I can take a joke. You must remember though, I ment no disrespect to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsccc Posted July 7, 2004 Author Share Posted July 7, 2004 flameing?? i dont remember doing that Well, I use the term loosely. There is plenty of pent-up anger and hostility on this forum though, and when it seeps out, it's always toned down to a playground level. It's a shame things always go from one extreme to other. A little balance would be great. Yea, i know, and im sorry i "flamed". I can get caught up in the drama a bunch. However, I was wondering if there was going to be any cheats like the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 flameing?? i dont remember doing that Well, I use the term loosely. There is plenty of pent-up anger and hostility on this forum though, and when it seeps out, it's always toned down to a playground level. It's a shame things always go from one extreme to other. A little balance would be great. Yea, i know, and im sorry i "flamed". I can get caught up in the drama a bunch. However, I was wondering if there was going to be any cheats like the last one. There usually are, they're not 'cheats' until they get sent out with the game after its gone gold. Before that, they're tools for the devs to test things, and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 He was just "venting"... LOL, good good, touche, I can take a joke. You must remember though, I ment no disrespect to anyone. I didn't mean any to you either...I just used your word for it, though perhaps I should have worded it different...I sometimes get hasty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan the Terrible Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 They aren't making a toolset, not because they can't, but because Lucasarts is really tight-assed about people modding their products. Call it the George Lucas Totalitarian streak. I made this half-pony half-monkey monster to please you But I get the feeling that you don't like it What's with all the screaming? You like monkeys, you like ponies Maybe you don't like monsters so much Maybe I used too many monkeys Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 This has been discussed sometime ago: http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showtopic=907&hl= see this post amonst others: http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?sh...indpost&p=25967 and this one: http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?sh...indpost&p=19954 About the format, we have this info: http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showtopic=1564&hl= for now, all the tools we have are listed here Starwarsknights.com - Learning to mod - Kotor modding en espa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodan Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I finished KOTOR twice and can't be arsed to start a third game anymore. The game has become boring to me now. If they won't/can't release a Worldbuilder to KOTOR 2 I probably won't buy the game. KOTOR is now collecting dust in my closet after I played it twice. That isn't worth 50 Euro. Welcome back; your last visit was: Jan 4 2005, 09:53 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanC9 Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I finished KOTOR twice and can't be arsed to start a third game anymore. The game has become boring to me now. If they won't/can't release a Worldbuilder to KOTOR 2 I probably won't buy the game. KOTOR is now collecting dust in my closet after I played it twice. That isn't worth 50 Euro. Well, that's a shame. But there are obviously a lot of people who are willing to pay 50 euros (or $50 -- what's the current exchange rate, anyway?) for a game without a toolset. The economics of including toolsets are questionable. There seems to be strong price resistance to anything over $60 or so, toolset or not. They'd have to get a lot more sales from including a toolset to justify doing the work. Assuming LA would let them do that in the first place, and I'm not sure they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebox15 Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 I know I'll surem buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Morgan Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 There isn't enough time to make the existing toolset ready for public release. Sorry. SiO2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 The Morgan man confirmed it...I'll still buy it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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