EnderAndrew Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 Or how about you have two apprentices (one of each gender if gender is so important) and the apprentice shifts classes and alignment at your instruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 I understand that part. But I think he feels the only way NPCs will be different depending on LS/DS and gender is based upon an apprentice, which I do not think will necessarily be the case. True, I did make that assumption. Here is why: The Jedi (and maybe the Sith) may prefer to asign apprentices to masters of the same gender. I couldn't think of any other likely reasons you would get a different character depending on gender. Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 It would be neat if you could sell your apprentice on being a Consular or something. In fact, I'd go more for Ender's approach, where you'll have a male and female, and how they grow is based upon how you grow. It'd be neat if it wasn't all perfect though. If you turn to the Darkside, then have some dialogue if not to psychotic lure them to the Darkside, but if you are a crazy person than they will be repulsed by the Darkside and revert back to LS or something. In any case, if this game does indeed have an apprentice (which the *ding**ding* would indicate), I'm betting the farm on the apprentice turning on you at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 Speeders would be okay, as long as you don't pilot them, kind of like the ship on Manaan...as for the apprentice, call me pessimistic, but the Morgan man could have been referring to Fardragon's correct information on the mentor-apprentice relationship, but I severely hope not... :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 I don't want the apprentice to turn on your abritrarily. That should depend on how the relationship goes. I suppose I could by it a little if the apprentice was lured by a more powerful Sith and corrupted, but your choices in the game should have meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 I don't want the apprentice to turn on your abritrarily. That should depend on how the relationship goes. I suppose I could by it a little if the apprentice was lured by a more powerful Sith and corrupted, but your choices in the game should have meaning. I think that will be how it will work. Remember that the actions of the PC will now influence party members alignment. If you do the wrong thing you may loose your padawan to the dark side or get them killed, but if you are a good teacher that can be avoided. Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 I don't want the apprentice to turn on your abritrarily. That should depend on how the relationship goes. I suppose I could by it a little if the apprentice was lured by a more powerful Sith and corrupted, but your choices in the game should have meaning. Spellmar in his infinite wisdom and intelligence says: arbitrarily How do you want the padawan to be represented? Should he be weak minded and might turn on you if you don't make the right choices and please him? Should he be stubborn and be so strongly adhered to his own ideas that he could be a problem? Or do you want a young padawan with a mind for molding? What kind of teaching would you do? I would be like Jack Black in School of Rock..."Kid, this will test your head, and your mind, and your brain".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzarin Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 I really like the idea of an apprentice, it sort of gives a more active version (though of a different nature) of the Revan-Bastila bond in the first game and given how that (in some way) will hang over this game it creats good depth, more RPG than hack-n-slash, better cause-effect and good continuity with the first game. You are after all a guy/gal who followed Revan off to the Mandalorian wars and then esp. of you go LS, you have a good mirror to the Sith master/apprentice realtionship. Someone earlier mentioned romance between them.....well that would be interesting, given obviously not only the Jedi (and SIth) codes views on love but also how it relates to a master/student relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jast Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I would rather be the master then the apprentice. Another bunch of,"Sure, council, I understand, etc." is not what I want. Instead I want to be able to talk to my apprentice and what I say to them influences how they act, how they fight, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I would rather be the master then the apprentice. Another bunch of,"Sure, council, I understand, etc." is not what I want. Instead I want to be able to talk to my apprentice and what I say to them influences how they act, how they fight, etc. I think most of us feel like that...but how do you suggest we influence their fighting technique? Like suggest a stance that they could take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idunnowhattochoose Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Not in this game. you are barely able to use the force remember? You haven't had any training for about....10 years? Taking an apprentice would be dangerous, and lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Not in this game. you are barely able to use the force remember? You haven't had any training for about....10 years? Taking an apprentice would be dangerous, and lame. Of course it would be dangerous, but whose going to stop you? And plus it's not like you take one on when you start learning...maybe level ten...but I think that you are the apprentice to Kreia, and then you take one on when you get enough power and wisdom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonarch Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I still wonder whether people are twisting the one comment out of proportion. And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 I still wonder whether people are twisting the one comment out of proportion. Well, it's just speculation, but of course people here want the apprentice, but i myself don't rely on the comment astromech...It seems too vague... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonarch Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Again with the joking... And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Can't stop it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 Not in this game. you are barely able to use the force remember? You haven't had any training for about....10 years? Taking an apprentice would be dangerous, and lame. Of course it would be dangerous, but whose going to stop you? And plus it's not like you take one on when you start learning...maybe level ten...but I think that you are the apprentice to Kreia, and then you take one on when you get enough power and wisdom... No how about level 20(jedi master!,remeber) "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 Not in this game. you are barely able to use the force remember? You haven't had any training for about....10 years? Taking an apprentice would be dangerous, and lame. Of course it would be dangerous, but whose going to stop you? And plus it's not like you take one on when you start learning...maybe level ten...but I think that you are the apprentice to Kreia, and then you take one on when you get enough power and wisdom... No how about level 20(jedi master!,remeber) Why that long into the game? That's like the end, unless they go over 30 levels <_< ...not long enough to teach them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebox15 Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 I'd say level 10 or 15, remember with the few Jedi out there they'll take any master they can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 I'd say level 10 or 15, remember with the few Jedi out there they'll take any master they can get. And be corrupted by them I might add... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwarskid15_19 Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 i want an apprentice but all was said was master/apprentice not necessarily meaning ur the apprentice tho. but i think u should get one around level 10-15 if u do get one the force is what gives a jedi his power. its an energy field created by all living things. it surrounds us and penetrates us. it binds the galaxy together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastaGAW Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Has any new information been released about how they will implement the apprentice into gameplay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbishop Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 No not yet, but this is intresteing.... If we were to get an apprentice, I would like to mold them in my image....either LS or DS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf16 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 An apprentice would be nice...but I don't think I could handle 'em whining at me all the time. "Master, I want to do this, I want to do that, waa waa waa-" Shut up and get back in the speeder! I had thought that some of nature's journeymen had made men and not made them well, for they imitated humanity so abominably. - Book of Counted Sorrows 'Cause I won't know the man that kills me and I don't know these men I kill but we all wind up on the same side 'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will. - Everlast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendetta Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Why does everyone think an Apprentice has to be significantly lower level? All they need is lower Jedi levels, their other levels could be made up from the game's non-jedi classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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