Ukraine Conflict - In the grim darkness of the near future, there is only war!

[Malcador]

7 hours ago, BruceVC said:

I do believe many NK if given an opportunity would love to not live in NK

We have lots or precedent around NK citizens trying to escape the authoritarian  hellhole they live in 

So yes its not hard to believe that some NK  soldiers fighting in Ukraine dont want to go home 

Just offset a bit by it being a POW video.  I am sure some Ukrainians dislike Zelensky and all, but Russian MoD videos of them declaring so...

 

 

[Gorth]

9 hours ago, Malcador said:

Just offset a bit by it being a POW video.  I am sure some Ukrainians dislike Zelensky and all, but Russian MoD videos of them declaring so...

 

 

Who knows, maybe they heard the stories from Iraq and are desperate to say what they *think* the interrogators want them to say. Even without being at the receiving end of torture and sexual abuse (because they expect that’s what follows, even if only in their heads)

[BruceVC]

7 minutes ago, Gorth said:

Who knows, maybe they heard the stories from Iraq and are desperate to say what they *think* the interrogators want them to say. Even without being at the receiving end of torture and sexual abuse (because they expect that’s what follows, even if only in their heads)

I dont know, there are lots of Russians who have been captured by Ukraine and I never heard it reported on that " we dont want to go back to Russia as a prisoner swop " 

In fact I cant recall any prisoner of war story where I have heard that?

But I can believe that some NK soldiers would say that because this is specific to the reality of life in NK 

[Lexx]

What, there were lots of reports of russians who didn't want to return. I believe there were even reports of russians who didn't want to return but were send back anyways in a swap. But can't remember details of it.

Edited Tuesday at 11:24 AM by Lexx

[BruceVC]

37 minutes ago, Lexx said:

What, there were lots of reports of russians who didn't want to return. I believe there were even reports of russians who didn't want to return but were send back anyways in a swap. But can't remember details of it.

I dont recall that happening, if you can find links of Russian POW saying that it would be interesting 

[Malcador]

4 hours ago, Lexx said:

What, there were lots of reports of russians who didn't want to return. I believe there were even reports of russians who didn't want to return but were send back anyways in a swap. But can't remember details of it.

A lot of those may be Wagner troops, you'd get killed for surrendering.

Ukraine having good success with drones attacking oil depots and refineries, overn

[Zoraptor]

Not wanting to be swapped is a natural extension of either saying what you think your captor wants or certain other types of self preservation- like claiming to have been 'forced' or 'tricked' into fighting instead of being there voluntarily.

So seemingly every Wagner POW was tricked into enlisting or was actually keen on visiting Mali and every Russian POW loves their fellow slavs; and every Ukrainian POW is a draftee who is now saved from being sent into combat again after two days training and was in a non combat role like cook or driver anyway; which means they weren't just shooting at you and aren't responsible for your friends getting killed and injured.

Can't really take any of it at face value any more than you could take someone thanking Saddam Hussein for how well they were being treated at face value or exhorting the US to stop bombing Hanoi.

[Malcador]

 

 

Rather funny, overall. Should start drafting below 25.