Chilloutman Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 you are idiot I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
BruceVC Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) @Elerond Some people on Codex are suggesting that this invasion of Ukraine will mean Finland will be " rushing " to join NATO What do you think? Edited February 24, 2022 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
BruceVC Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chilloutman said: you are idiot Is that a yes ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Darkpriest Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 Well, we know where China stands on this. I believe this is their time as observer, and depending on the outcome they will decise upon taking control of Taiwan https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-russia-china-beijing-c73b5249d313d661ce1836911b1dbc45 1
Darkpriest Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 Pakistan doesn't give a F. as well it seems. https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2022/feb/24/pakistan-pm-imran-khan-ends-two-day-visit-to-moscow-amid-ukraine-crisis-2423242.html Looks like this is a power struggle and others observe how will the Western capital powerhouses respond.
Pidesco Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, BruceVC said: @Elerond Some people on Codex are suggesting that this invasion of Ukraine will mean Finland will be " rushing " to join NATO What do you think? I imagine Finland will only be at risk with Russia once the Baltic states have gone down. But I think they should join NATO anyway. 1 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend.
BruceVC Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Darkpriest said: Well, we know where China stands on this. I believe this is their time as observer, and depending on the outcome they will decise upon taking control of Taiwan https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-russia-china-beijing-c73b5249d313d661ce1836911b1dbc45 This article made me laugh when it mentions " China repeated calls for talks to resolve the crisis in Ukraine on Thursday while refusing to criticize Russia’s attack, and in a move that could help reduce the impact of Western sanctions against Moscow " Of course China wont criticize Russia, they have less human rights interests than Russia and their intentions around hegemony is much worse than Russia We dont need China to be involved in sanctions and I never thought they ever would "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
BruceVC Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Darkpriest said: Pakistan doesn't give a F. as well it seems. https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2022/feb/24/pakistan-pm-imran-khan-ends-two-day-visit-to-moscow-amid-ukraine-crisis-2423242.html Looks like this is a power struggle and others observe how will the Western capital powerhouses respond. Yes and Venezuela, Cuba and Bolivia dont care either but once again you dont need countries like this to make sanctions be effective . Thats not how the real strength of the global economy works ...you know that "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
BruceVC Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pidesco said: I imagine Finland will only be at risk with Russia once the Baltic states have gone down. But I think they should join NATO anyway. The problem with Finland joining is I wonder if it wouldnt provoke Russia again which we want to avoid ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Darkpriest Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, BruceVC said: Yes and Venezuela, Cuba and Bolivia dont care either but once again you dont need countries like this to make sanctions be effective . Thats not how the real strength of the global economy works ...you know that That's a dangerously simple assertion, considering Oil popped 9%+ to over 101USD today so far US is currently a net importer of oil. The strength is effective as log as others believe you are strong. I would not be surprised if the Afghan weakness shown by US was one of catalusts for this 'insane' decision. Others are checking where the boundries are right now in the post Covid, weak globalized economy period. Lets hope it will end here... And soon... 1
HoonDing Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 Polish forces have entered Ukraine from the West and retaken Lwów. 1 3 1 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Chilloutman Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Lwow already fallen? Poland is moving in? Based Poles in that case, any source? Edited February 24, 2022 by Chilloutman I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Chilloutman Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 nvm, obvious troll post 2 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Elerond Posted February 24, 2022 Author Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, BruceVC said: @Elerond Some people on Codex are suggesting that this invasion of Ukraine will mean Finland will be " rushing " to join NATO What do you think? It may increase support for NATO option, but it is unlikely that Finland will join in this decade 1
Chilloutman Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 here you can see some live updates https://liveuamap.com/ 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
BruceVC Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, Chilloutman said: nvm, obvious troll post It always is but thats why Hoonding is so funny....its takes skill to be funny like him "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Elerond Posted February 24, 2022 Author Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Sarex said: Every country has contingency plans, against allies and foes, the closer the thread the closer the preparations come to fulfill those plans. There are contingency plans and actively preparing to invasion by increasing forces and moving them to attack positions 1
Gorth Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Darkpriest said: Well, we know where China stands on this. I believe this is their time as observer, and depending on the outcome they will decise upon taking control of Taiwan https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-europe-russia-china-beijing-c73b5249d313d661ce1836911b1dbc45 I suspect China's "game" in this, is to see how much force the west is willing to commit. I.e. boots on the ground and airplanes involved fighting over Ukraine. If none, they might conclude Taiwan is ripe for the taking now while everybody else is busy looking at Ukraine and the response wasn't scary (by Chinese standards) 2 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
Darkpriest Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) So far EU is not willing to reach out for SWIFT and blocking resources https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/eu-unlikely-cut-russia-off-swift-now-sources-say-2022-02-24/ None of Western countries is in a position to impose really strong economic sanctions on main flow of cash into Rus economy. That's double edge sword, of which costs they simply cannot bear as otherwise populace tired with covid restrictions will just revolt. Plus, most of the countries are not homogenous in values and beliefs, and the spirit of national pride and patriotism was being effectively killed for conformism and multiculturalism. Our societies do not want to look at war at close, not to mention bear any costs of it i person. They want to live comfy lives secured by previous generations. No one will grab arms and run to aid Ukraine and fight Russians with real risks of injuries and dying Edited February 24, 2022 by Darkpriest
Darkpriest Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Seems there are already demands flowing from Russias side (Peskov) , that they are now willing to talk a 'neutral' status of Ukraine which would mean no miliatry capability build up and no NATO Edited February 24, 2022 by Darkpriest
Lexx Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 The way I understood it, cutting russia off of SWIFT is dangerous, as it will strengthen their own financial system that they are building up with china for some years already, and it will give them more incentive to disrupt the SWIFT system with cyber attacks. 1 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Hiro Protagonist Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 We need some more harsh words from the UN. 2
Katphood Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 50 Russians dead as Ukrainian soldiers take back Shastya. 6 Russian planes downed 4 tanks and numerous other hardware destroyed. Ukraine is doing as expected. Those extra equipment are gonna give the Russians a really hard time. 1 There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
Lexx Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) What I find interesting is how fast it is nowadays. 100 years ago, soldiers would be fighting at the borders, probably for days. Now, 10 hours after begin of the invasion, we see russian helicopters over kiev. We've seen similar already recently in the armenia conflict - the country defenses get disabled in hours. Yes, there are some "wins" right now, but that really doesn't mean anything yet. The wave of soldiers and ground forces has yet to come... It gives me a really odd feeling, because if there ever would be a conflict involving german territory again, it will be mere hours till hostile forces are in berlin. Edited February 24, 2022 by Lexx "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Malcador Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 It is interesting to see all the combat footage, although I'm beginning to be of the mind that 50% of what I'm seeing is false. Is sort of funny sign of the times that some guy seemingly runs to get footage of a bombed airfield for Twitter, heh. Doesn't seem Ukraine's defenses are all gone, at least from the kills they are claiming. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
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