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45 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

ūüėĄ¬†¬†ūüėĄ....I love it when you crack jokes on this forum Zora, sometimes levity breaks the ostensibly serious nature of political debates¬†

You cant possibly expect anyone but a Christian\Roman Catholic  to become president in the USA, it has nothing to do with reasonableness or intolerance and this applies to all countries outside the USA where you have a  religious demographic majority. For example you wont ever  see a Christian ruling any Muslim country or India for that matter and thats okay, its what we would expect to see. A person from a minority religion in the majority of countries can become a mayor or a politician but not the president 

Personally I would vote for an atheist or agnostic but for many people, considering how many legitimate  factors  are normally and or  automatically  dichotomous in politics,to suggest  someone who is not Christian\Roman Catholic would ever become USA president is just a pipe dream 

As I have said before when I see Christians elected to govern countries where they are the minority then I would concede this may be achievable in some Western Democracies :-

 

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And now ladies and gentlemen, your 2020 US Libertarian Party Presidential news flash:

 

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The first LP Presidential debate was held last night by the MA LP Party at a facility... well... not really sure where. Not like it got any TV coverage. Or news coverage. But, I assume it was somewhere in Massachusetts. The debate featured three legit candidates for the nomination and one guy who ran out of gas nearby and stopped in looking for change. It turns out the four candidates spent the evening mainly talking about Justin Amash whose absence was notable... and also easily explained by the fact he is in Washington DC working and he's not running for the LP, or any other, nomination.

The four candidates are:

  1. Kimberly Ruff: Kim has never held elected office but figured f--k go for the biggest one without any experience. What could go wrong? https://ruffphillips2020.com/
  2. Adam Kokesh: A longtime party ne'er do well. Not without a history of stupid comments and unworkable ideas: http://www.votevohra.com/#meet-arvin
  3. Max Abramson: New Hampshire State Rep, LP darling, convicted felon (not for something bad) and probably the most qualified candidate on the list. He's actually been elected to something. http://www.maxabramson.org/
  4. Dan Behrman: Never heard of him. I really hope he didn't pay anyone to build his website. If he did he was ripped off. https://behrman2020.com/

"I care nothing for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it"

Abraham Lincoln

 

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Not sure why you guys are still creating a new one when it gets around 30-40 pages, you don't need to do that anymore.

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2 hours ago, smjjames said:

Not sure why you guys are still creating a new one when it gets around 30-40 pages, you don't need to do that anymore.

Because we have been asked to do so.

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2 hours ago, smjjames said:

Not sure why you guys are still creating a new one when it gets around 30-40 pages, you don't need to do that anymore.

It's policy caused by the powerful Online Moderators Lobby to make work for their members.

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Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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8 minutes ago, Amentep said:

Because we have been asked to do so.

Fair enough then.

5 minutes ago, Malcador said:

It's policy caused by the powerful Online Moderators Lobby to make work for their members.

lol

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1 minute ago, smjjames said:

Fair enough then.

lol

Also dont you appreciate being able to find my erudite  and insightful posts quicker...this way you dont need to go back pages and pages to find answers :teehee:

 


"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.‚ÄĚ -¬† George Bernard Shaw

 

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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47 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

Also dont you appreciate being able to find my erudite  and insightful posts quicker...

 

Meh, I'll take humorous sarcasm any day

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"I care nothing for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it"

Abraham Lincoln

 

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-progressive-congresswomen-should-go-back-where-they-came-n1029676

Im sure most people are aware of  this latest Trump story where he  said 4 congresswomen must "  go back where they came from "

My question is do you think its racist? I am not sure, its uninformed, unnecessary  and offensive but I'm unclear if its racist. I also think its typical Trump strategy to create a distraction so the Democrats and his base can focus on that so other major events get less attention...like Mueller testifying tomorrow 

Another reason Im unclear about whether its racist is because of the general playing of the race card I see nowadays as an immediate response to certain comments so unless its blatant or usage of derogatory words I prefer to wait and see the outcomes.¬†CNN is calling it as definitely racist but they dont always get everything 100 % right in the sense sometimes there commentators all have the same opinion of a particular topic, so you wont always get a balanced view. This¬†¬†is normal with most¬†¬†international news channel¬†ūüďļ


"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.‚ÄĚ -¬† George Bernard Shaw

 

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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6 hours ago, smjjames said:

Not sure why you guys are still creating a new one when it gets around 30-40 pages, you don't need to do that anymore.

I don't know if it's the actual reason, but it may be to encourage new users to contribute. Typically the longer the thread the less likely a new user is to post on it due to feeling intimidated or not being able to 'catch up'.

(Pretty sure actual academic research has been done on it too, but all my search turned up was, randomly, a bunch of stuff on pot)

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Bruce, why not both? A racist distraction.

I agree that racism and other isms being called a too freely and broadly but I don't think this is one of those cases

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So interesting to see ‚ÄúProgressive‚ÄĚ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly¬†and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don‚Äôt they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can‚Äôt leave fast enough. I‚Äôm sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

He's not outright calling them names but he is saying they're not from here (3 were born here and 1 came as a child) and insinuating that they aren't "real" Americans (they're all Americans) because of that first point and therefore have no right to try to dictate US policy/law (that's pretty much what they were elected to do). 

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Big brouhaha in the House today Pelosi vs Steny Hoyer: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-floor-fight-pelosi-collins-condemn-trump-tweets

 

We have live footage:

 


"I care nothing for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it"

Abraham Lincoln

 

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Posted (edited)

Call* me when it actually breaks out into a brouhaha of fisticuffs....

*Not literally, obviously.

Ursula Von der Leyen officially becomes the head of the EU. At least I think the position is supposed to be the head of the EU? Also, she's replacing Donald Tusk I think, right? Not sure if Donald Tusk was actually in the same postion or not, but he was definetly the face of EU parliamentary leadership.

Also, I thought Trump would totally be for an EU army given how he's all 'Others need to take up the slack!'.

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Zensurla is replacing Jean-Claude "Backpain" Juncker, not Donald Tusk. Charles Michel is going to be the next president of the European Council, and president of the European Parliament is David Sassoli.

I said my piece about her earlier, she's a terrible choice in my opinion, given her track record in the German government.

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8 hours ago, BruceVC said:

My question is do you think its racist? I

Everything and everyone is racist BruceVC. Welcome to the present¬†ūüėÄ

Trump, Pelosi, Biden, breakfast cereal, climate, dolphins and that one bee from Paraguay.

It's a race to who will pull racesism card first. 

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Pretty narrow vote for her as well- not exactly a strong mandate.

Trump wants the EU broken up or in a weak union as it is currently, with each bit contributing. A EU army is another step to a genuine rivalry with the US so far as he (and to be fair in all likelihood reality too) is concerned.

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Ironic to hear a draft dodging coward spin around the hoary old "love it or leave it".


The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.

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14 hours ago, smjjames said:

Call* me when it actually breaks out into a brouhaha of fisticuffs....

*Not literally, obviously.

Ursula Von der Leyen oÔĽŅfficially becomes the head of the EU. At least I think the position is supposed to be the head of the EU? Also, she's replacing Donald Tusk I think, right? Not sure if Donald Tusk was actually in the same postion or not, but he was definetly the face of EU parliamentary leadership.

Also, I thought Trump would totally be for an EU army given how he's all 'Others need to take up the slack!'.

President of European Commission is not head of EU and she isn't replacing Donald Tusk, but Jean-Claude Juncker. Donald Tusk is president of President of the European Council which also isn't head of EU but comes closest to be one.

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2 hours ago, HoonDing said:

Ironic to hear a draft dodging coward spin around the hoary old "love it or leave it".

And when you add that his campaign slogan is "make america great again"

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11 hours ago, Skarpen said:

Everything and everyone is racist BruceVC. Welcome to the present¬†ūüėÄ

Trump, Pelosi, Biden, breakfast cereal, climate, dolphins and that one bee from Paraguay.

It's a race to who will pull racesism card first. 

This post made me laugh, I agree. In some debates and  in some public  forums "  it becomes a race to race to see who can....play the race card "  ...now that is an example of tautology for those who have wondered when that word can be used appropriately  ;)

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.‚ÄĚ -¬† George Bernard Shaw

 

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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21 hours ago, Skarpen said:

Everything and everyone is racist BruceVC. Welcome to the present¬†ūüėÄ

 

That is a racist statement! :lol:

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"I care nothing for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it"

Abraham Lincoln

 

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John Paul Stevens passed away. He is a man with whom I find little common ground but his mark on this country cannot be denied. 

"If this Nation is to remain true to the ideals symbolized by its flag, it must not wield the tools of tyrants even to resist an assault by the forces of tyranny"

RIP Justice Stevens.


"I care nothing for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it"

Abraham Lincoln

 

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22 hours ago, HoonDing said:

Ironic to hear a draft dodging coward spin around the hoary old "love it or leave it".

But people from other countries like Mexico shouldn't "love it or leave it", that's a one way ticket to concentration camps.


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