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...and a few posts snipped. This thread does seem to suffer from a rise in temperature.

Guys, don't make me come and pull your ears... Disagree, don't insult. I was just about to say, that goes for everybody, but that would mean including me then.

It may be a cultural thing. Religion may be important in some parts of the world. It isn't in other parts of the world. If respecting other cultures means giving up your own (i.e. would you give up your democracy/secular state because somebody threatened you with bodily harm), would you do it or would you object to it?

"I Guess..." is part of the problem. Too much guessing and too much bias going into the guessing. Not everybody is "out to get you all the time". Danish Muslims are generally a good bunch of people, counting some of them as my friends. Learn more and guess less.

No NKVD agents here...

Seconded I keep hearing about those two games called Deus Ex and System Shock 2. Maybe I should put some effort into finding them someday. Probably needs to show up on a place like GamersGate or similar though.

We curse the stones on the footpath for blocking the way for out feet dammit! I think CIA needs to take lessons from Mossad. Heck, they could outsource the job of killing Bin Laden to Mossad. As for Iraq, well, I know I like a good conspiracy theory, but I honestly think that it was the old man Bush who pulled the strings and told Bush Junior to go finish the mess that he himself had left behind. "Son, that guy is still sitting there in Baghdad mocking me. If you do nothing else with your presidency, you God damn get that sucker to bite the dust good or God help me, you are no son of mine" (add heavy Texan accent).

No, I think you may be missing the point. It does require you to know the entire story though. The (original) cartoons were a protest by the Danish artists against the Imans who had tried to form a polarized atmosphere between Muslims and Christians by threatening the authors of a series of childrens books, which explained about Islam. They couldn't get anybody to illustrate the books out of fear for their safety. Since the freedom of speech is part of the constitution, it is illegal to threaten people to "shut up". Wrong. The Imams are living in a foreign country as guests. If they don't like their hosts and don't want to respect their laws, nothing prevents them from leaving, unmolested and unharmed. That is what being a free country is all about. I wouldn't know. I am Danish, not Greek, Bulgarian or Armenian. I do know that all of them have strained relations with Turkey after centuries of occupation and oppression by its predecessor state, the Ottoman Empire. Changing a state doesn't make old grudges go away overnight.

Thread pruned a bit. Guys, lets keep it "clean"? Otherwise I get to do work. I already got that 20 hours a day. More makes me grumpy...

There are people who pay for crpgs just because they have "romances" in them... You do the math

Somebody expressed concern that this was turning into a Two Worlds discussion club exclusively, so related discussions has been aplit off and located here

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Not enough money to be made from DLC's? Probably just a question of time before the first virtual "escort service" popped up.

It was. However, it wasn't the publishers who organised the campaign to produce rage in the Muslim world, that was local Imams living in Denmark who were feeling their power slipping away from them. Unhappy with the increasing secularity of their fellow "Muslims", they started a campaign to create the rage you describe. Like, half a year after the fact they were printed mind you. Unfortunately, the Danish Muslims couldn't care less about a bunch of wackos frothing at the mouth. So, the Imamns picked up the pictures from the newspaper and started touring the middle east, showing off not only pictures from the newspapers, but their own falsified pictures (which were even more offensive), to stir up violence and dissent, all in attempt to consolidate their own personal power. Yes, the very Imams who claimed it to be an outrage were caught doing the very thing themselves, fabricating images of the prophet. Thats the kind of hypocrisy and selfish, powermongering behaviour that makes them (the Danish Imams) very hard to take seriously.

Europe Universalis III - Heir to the Throne. After getting the expansion, my old save games were invalidated, so I started over again as Milano, with world conquest in my sights. Almost done liberating the Italian states and part of Austria.

You sort of did Even if it is legal, those consumer organisations can be pretty tenacious in getting the rules changed, so it may not stay that way.

Al Jazeera is an arab, sunni organisation so it actually is about as 'biased' as any western one vis a vis persian shi'ites who make up the majority of Iran's population. Basically it's like implying that the Protestant Belfast Times is as an unbiased source when talking about things going on in Catholic Ireland. (Not that I necessarily think it is biased in this case.) I think most westerners wouldn't have the slightest clue about the differences between Sunni and Shi'ite dogma. Heck, I think most Scandinavians would be hard pressed to tell you the difference between Protestants and Catholics (they are all Christian after all). Western media tends to (mis)represent Al Jazeera as the mouth piece of the Muslim world (all lumped together) on the world news scene.

Wow, those Norwegians think of everything don't they? The Scene: The Norwegian High Court "Hey, Thorvald, are you done writing up those legal statues yet?" "No, Knut, I'm still considering the jurisprudence concerning the viability of single-player computer games vis-a-vis persistent internet connections." "Coolio, it's all about detail." --- Here is a link to the article: http://www.vg.no/spill/artikkel.php?artid=579754 As I said, I don't speak any Norwegian, so I cannot verify it. The link was posted by Kalah, the Norwegian administrator of the Heroes of Might and Magic fansite called Celestial Heavens: www.celestialheavens.com Perhaps somebody here speaks Norwegian and can fill us in about the details of the article and whether Kalah interpreted it correctly? They are not claiming that it is illegal, only that the consumer watch dog organisation will put it on this years agenda for them to investigate in regards to consumer rights (not literally translated, mind you).

To quote somebody elses signature: Source that horribly biased pro-western publication known as Al Jazeera I think Killian got the first part right, Ahmedinjejad is a figurehead doing the day to day running of the country, while actual power rests with the "Supreme Leader of Iran" and his appointed "Guardian Council". I still remember the trouble he got into when he accidentally let the mask slip during the state function and gave a lady a handkiss. I.e. acted like human being. It almost cost him his head, literally (despite being the supposed "Leader").

I didn't feel that it was negative, really... not completely convinced, but it had less retarded moments than the Eurogamer one! And it is very reassuring overall, for people who's been following the game for a long time... "Playing as a stealthy Thorton certainly worked, but we struggled to see the appeal. Why bother creeping through a mission when you can shoot your way to victory in half the time?" You probably shouldn't ask this guy to play any of the Thief games

Some Tandori chicken, mint yoghurt, Naan bread and Jasmine rice... and some red wine (I felt like spoiling myself today)

I finally beat my old highscore!

SA (South Australia). Generally very arid landscape. Most of the state is desert. Some farming along the coast line and up the River Murray. Lots of bitching going on between the states about water allocation. Water restrictions are in place for households.

same here And here... You people are sick! Had a gardener come and look at my place, preparing a quote for giving it a make over and replant dead trees etc. Stupid shrubbery keeps dying on me because I don't have time for it Driplines and faucet timers are your bestest friends They are both going to be part of the quote