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People change all the time. It's debatable how much influence a discussion on a forum may have on that, but having frank discussions on consumer/producer relationships and the value of ethics is hardly the same as speaking into a vacuum. Piracy is typically a young man's game, and again there are plenty of factors that play into most people giving up their pirating ways, but it's a bit overly skeptical to say these conversations have zero impact.

Hah, that skillet getting beat looks like mine. We go through a lot of them. We have a cast iron and stainless steel as well, but those non-stick cheap ones have their uses.

This Sniper v2 game is pretty good, I'm glad I got it for free.

This is a thread about piracy though. Why are you arguing again? When you enter a thread about piracy and start complaining about corporate greed, it is going to come across as justification for piracy. Just like when you post that you dont buy adobe products but enjoy them, most people will assume you mean you pirate, since this is a thread on piracy.

Yay for TN, an excellent choice. If they disqualified everyone who had a run-in with Gromnir, there's be no one left to moderate.

Yes, let's just have people blatantly admitting to piracy on a software developer's forum. That's super classy.

Exactly, why should they care what you want? They have enough consumers paying the high prices to justify them. You have every right to not purchase them because of that. It does not excuse piracy in any way.

Nope, it is typically fair use.

Well, I guess we've come full circle. We are back at the "what about the poor entitled children and the big bad corporations?"

So John Wycliffe and Martin Luther were basically just in a copyright fight with the Roman Catholic Church.

That would be a valid point if there wasn't a huge amount of free entertainment readily available. If you have the means to get an internet connection, you have an enormous amount of content at your fingertips without needing to resort to piracy.

What about the other half? Exactly.

Are you aware that Netflix, Amazon, Hulu is not available to more than 6 billions of people living on this planet? You are really missing the point. More than half of those people live in poverty. Is their access to the latest Game of Thrones episode really the most important issue? We are talking about entertainment. Stop trying to make it into some grand social justice issue.

That's pretty much the way HBO works, they make their content a rather large pain to get a hold of legally. I've had issues with that as well. Thankfully there are these books that cover the basics of the plot, so I don't have to worry about people spoiling the storyline for me. It's just not much of an excuse though. There are plenty of times where I really want to watch something, so I check out Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc. If I can't find it, I give up and go watch something different. My life isn't really dramatically different because I didn't get to watch the Mountain fight the Viper.

Well that settles it,t he next time my favorite show gets cancelled, I'm going to kidnap the cast and crew and make them shoot new episodes.

That was a fantastic analogy Gromnir.

If you set your bar on humanity on such things as copyright violation I feel sorry for you, I would be more interested how did you act against mining companies which plunder your country? Maybe I am wrong but i think you did nothing against it - but I know, its easy to talk on forums about morality than actualy do something meaningfull Whaaaa?

Well I guess not everyone in the world is as perfect as you. Seems reasonable enough that people would look more favourably at alternatives if they feel the 'legitimate' retailer is just screwing them. So they'd buy cheaper pirated DVDs, etc. You are setting a pretty low bar here for humanity. Is it really that much to ask people to have some perspective on the value of entertainment? I think your argument would hold more water if there wasn't a huge plethora of entertainment available for free all over the internet. That should be the alternative, not piracy.

Give 'em a few years.

I'd rate SR2 among my top games ever. It's one of the few games I've played through more than once. SR3 and 4 are good continuations, but it's tough to live up to that.

Most likely dangling something attractive in front of their noses and having the audacity to charge money for it. I'm pretty sure that we both know very well how the music industry (as a very obvious example) has been treating both consumers as well as artists, in that light I can't help but feel that your interpretation of my words is rather disingenuous. We are talking about entertainment products here, right? Not like food and water? If I can't feed my children because of greedy corporations, I might take matters into my own hands. Listening to the latest pop sensation, not so much.

Been playing it as well. I know folks are all about Watch Dogs right now, but SR4 is just on a different level from all the other sandbox games.

Yep, it's pretty lonely in here nowadays. Almost as if all the posters were driven away or something.

Whoa, why are you being so critical of Lundqvist? You know as well as I do that he hasn't had the best coach for the majority of his career. He's got a good shot at his first ring here, ease up on him.

I got the same thing. We are language bros.