Rosbjerg

yes I want to able to play a violent game as well when I want to .. but some can't handle it, and I personally think that everyone, developers, parents, buyers, society etc etc should take a more active role in trying to help and prevent the addiction to violence and/or the adrenalin rush for those who can't handle it!

some interesting info (From the Wikipedia page of the earthquake ..) Power of the earthquake The total energy released by a magnitude 9.0 earthquake is equivalent to 32,000 megatons of TNT or 133 exajoules (1.33

"Would you buy a game with no violence, no complications, no problems?" why would no violence also include "no complications, no problems"? would I buy such a game? no .. boring as hell .. but would I buy a game with complications and problems? yes .. story-driven and hopefully interesting! I don't need violence in a game for me to think it's good! do you?

ahh Hitchhiker wasn't very well advertised! it's more like a cult than a classic .. still a great and extremely funny story imo! but classic, no that's for the epic literature.. and of the greatest authors (in my complete personal opinion disregarding everything I've learned about classical literature): Oscar Wilde

Affleck is very good actor .. once he is allowed to develop on the role he has! it's hard to act on a crappy script! which he have had plenty of! But Brad Pitt is also a great actor (Seven, Fight club), but when he gets a role with very little room for personal interpretation (Troy) his acting sucks .. so blame the film! not the actor .. only exceptional actors, and they are few and far apart, can lift an entire film by their mere presence!

you can get that as well at my local pizzaria .. for 12$ though .. still cheap!

as Mkreku said .. a constant exposure to violence will cause immunity! and when the violence looks exactly like reality, maybe that limit will be reached even faster .. I just think developers should think long and hard about how necessary it is to their game! I mean news station doesn't show all to many pictures of extremely mutilated bodies .. and to Hades about the PETA .. go for it!

nooo ... you caaan't do thaaat!!! (convincing?)

I could definitely imagine! although you get immune after a day or so! (as long as you stay in the room)

It would cost me several thousand dollars to have that .. and I would need to go to Germany to get proper doctors with enough experiance! I have contactlinses and they work ok.. doesn't help much on the colorblind issue though! I like to think it helps my creativity, seeing the world in a different perspective of colours every day! but enough of this off-topic nonsense .. it's a perfectly good thread! no reason to get it locked!! someone say something extremely controversial so we can disagree!!

ah yes .. pulling an all-weekender role-playing! aahhh the memories .. the memories!

maybe 2 small objects have gotten stuck .. and you never realised it? I'm cursed with bad eyes .. extremely short sighted (close to blind), with a defect in the eyes construction, extremely colorblind! yep .. I want to be a pilot! maybe you should work with flowers Hades?? Like Beethoven composed music even though he was deaf .. I think we can do it!!

a good article on the history of game controversy on GameSpot .. a

"While your character doesn't need to eat and drink. Remember you do! we don't want to lose any dedicated players" .. it was actually a good warning, funny and true! :D although I always eat and/or drink when playing rpgs .. it's hard to make a moral decision on a emtpy stomach!

sounds like I will enjoy it .. yay .. I think this muddy not black/white sounds intriguing! I like to question the firm and established ideas and apply my own interpretation! will I be able to do that?

well if we can somehow stop that development wouldn't that be preferable? normal people are well able to distingush games and reality .. and most people are well able to take responsibility of their own actions! but some seem to have trouble doing so, and why not help them before the problem gets out of hands, and they end up killing themselves and/or others in the process!

well it did take a serious determination to accomplish! Well here's to hoping your year will be better than New Years Eve then!! (to all of those who had a bad day/night)

yes Mrkeku .. and throw in addiction to adrenalin in the ****tail and you have a dangerous mix!

congratulation on what? still being drunk? :D

unfortunatly alot of people are weak .. and easily swayed by the opinions of others! if they were a minority we could disregard it! but they are not! and it seems young people are having a hard time resisting it these days .. especially here! and that affects me, because they want to fight .. now I could blame parents, but I know how my mom toiled as a single parent to pay for a house with 3 kids! I mean parents are just human .. they can't do everything perfect! so society needs to help where it can to lift the burden when possible and necessary! and I find it strange that all of a sudden every new parent apperantly suck at raising their kids! there has to be something more than just neglect!

but there's a big difference imo, between a child drowing by accident .. and a teenager going beserk on drugs and kills someone in a fight! or just fighting every weekend when drinking! now a big part in danish culture is drinking at social events, and some people can't control themselves as easily when they drink or taking drugs (although they are still responsible for their actions imo) .. now I'm not blaming games as a whole for that, nor society, parents! I blame the kid .. but! the kid did it because he never learned how to control his abuse .. he never learned how to control his anger! that's the parents job to at least try to teach this, and if unsuccesful, then prohibit the kid from going drinking without some kind of supervision! but culture is to blame too .. and group pressure, because all his friends drink (and why do they drink?)! so he feels a pressure to drink, perhaps even if he knows the consequences! while this is a thread about violence in games and TV.. this, imo, trancends to the general view on violence! because games and TV are just showing what people want to see .. that's why a change of attitude on ALL fronts are required .. society needs to take a look at it's own bad habits! parents need to take a look at the consequences of their inaction! and the individual must learn to excersize selfcontrol if he wishes to live in this kind of society! (I get the feeling I'm not making any sense .. still a bit affected from the alcohol from last night (ha ironic isn't it) do I make sense? or is just that you don't agree?)

it's 4 pm here now .. still kinda tipsy actually! The

A person is always responsible for his own actions .. very true! and something I firmly believe in! but when you are forging your personality you are very impressionable! at a young age, complete indifference of violence by everyone around you, will breed an indifferent attitude towards it in you! so therefore society (as I said the most abstract of all) can be blamed, since we seem to wanna place the blame elsewhere! you and I are endorsing violence as entertainment, by buying games where that is the case! and we blame the parents, who blame TV/Games .. that is the indifference that society creates, the lack of responsibility people are taking for their own actions..

Seed: The Human Condition KOTOR 2 (PC) and GTA:SA (PC)

now first of all .. I see this as a from of addiction .. and as we all now, some people are more receptive to addiction than others! and read the following with that in mind: I think there's a deeper psychological perspective.. Humans seem to enjoy a certain degree of violence, I mean most people laugh when they see Jackas$ .. in this new time of non-violence and peace in the western world (I know we fight wars, but no wars are fought in our own countries), violence is only seen on TV and on games, so a dangerous degree of distance is taken to the images, we become immune to images, because our minds can't fully comprehend the truth about what we see .. then it becomes entertainment (though few take offence to it out of principle), but still not fully understanding it! I mean the closet thing average joe in the western world comes to violence is the occasional bar brawl .. which seldom results in more than a black eye or broken bones! the problem is then that we get the adrenalin from playing those games, and while having fun and getting relief endorphins are released, but not the fear and other consequences such actions would normally produce .. this creates an addiction to the adrenalin and the relief (our body needs the occasional burst of adrenalin and endorphins) subconsciously your brain sees gaming, as a positive behavioural pattern, which in turn creates a crave to repeat that behaviour .. we see this everyday, people are becoming addicted to games and the internet in a much higher degree .. then the real problem arises (talking about gamers) .. what will a person do when simple gaming is no longer enough, because any addiction requires an increase in the behaviour or drug .. will he turn to real life violence? which will release a MUCH higher level of adrenaline (and if he does that he is already at a point of his addiction where the fear and broken bones only fuel his twisted need for more adrenaline).. or will he simply play more games? we don't know, but fact is that more and more young people *are* turning violent! (I don't know if it's only Denmark, but for each year I see more and more violence in the streets, more people taking drugs .. more people taking harder drugs! it seems our society some how forces us to seek our primal thrills in a higher degree than before .. perhaps because they can't be expressed otherwise!) so who's to blame? the one commiting the crime? the parents? TV/games? society? I think it's a combination of all of them .. Tv and games endorse violence .. and endorses violence as entertainment! but parents aren't helping their kids by setting proper rules of behavior! and society, the most abstract of them all, endorses violence by indifference!