Rosbjerg

no offence but you obviously havnt been to an la forum in a while, those threads are based on crap, and those that post in them can only speak crap. for all the pink siders, true rulers of the universe, it is just an escape, im sure you arent ignorant enough to believe that we arent capable of serious posts? I didn't imply anything of the sort .. but the "unite behind someone" is very 'Lucasart forum'ish .. It wasn't a comment on your posts .. I am well aware of what both you and the others have contributed with .. and no I haven't been there in quite a while .. and proud of it!

no they are simply doing something very primal .. forming a group to resist outside pressure, because of a possible need for fellowship .. and respect to Kazic for being manipulative enough to 'control' 3 people .. it is however a little 'Lucasart forum'ish though ..

no? how can you be so sure about that? every true disease has it's own weaknesses and it's only a matter of finding it.. only cancer is a little strange .. since it isn't really a disease as much as a freak mutation ..

in time they will find a cure for any disease .. so that argument doesn't hold! because cancer won't be the sole cause of death for our race for thousands of years .. and alot of those who die of cancer are old enough to have gotten kids!

Good argument. But aren't there even in Denmark countless people (especially of the older generations) who don't understand anything, as films normally don't start at the first lesson but at the very last? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> they read the subtitles .. so it's not a problem .. the only movies that are dubbed are cartoons .. which are mostly done pretty horrific, so that's why it creeps me out! the only good dubbing is the Danish version of Cartoon Network! especially if they try to do a strange accent! like Dexters .. sounds so wierd .. hehe and I thought it was France because I thought you said your language was close to English, which I wouldn't say Deutch is! and like Ludozee it really freaks me out when I watch German TV .. although I can easily understand it, I would prefer English .. it's also better for turists! they can't watch TV if everything is dubbed!

well come to think of it .. Darwin says that evolution happens through mutation .. and we are still mutating as badly as ever, although today nobody get's killed for having a slightly bad mutation (heart disease etc.) in this regard the human race is degeneration .. because we allow the weaker elements of evolution to survive and pollute our genepool (hell if we should follow nature I should be killed right now, I'm practically blind) .. But what you said made me think .. since everyone is allowed to live, even the extremely wierd mutations, which could be physically weak, but mentally strong, are allowed to live .. although they won't be dominant, small individual mutations will be more evident from today, because of modern technology (and the ability to keep weak humans alive)! so in a sense evolution has gone from the improvement of a race, to the improvement of individuals (although the flip side is a weaker race on the whole)!

well as a race we have stopped evolving .. at least if you believe in Darwin .. the only evolution happening today is knowledge, is that what you meant? and if we live to evolve from a biological point of view, then our lot in life is in danger ..

look at the world today .. it's very clear that intelligent beings has some pretty obscure concepts of the words "evolution and improvement" .. We are slowly killing ourselves by killing our world .. of course you could say that the human race isn't particular intelligent, and true intelligent beings would seek those virtues, then I would agree .. But the beings of SW have the same flaws as Humans of Earth .. so they must be receptive to corruption of power as well .. which they are, they fall to "the dark side" and seek to subjegate and control their enviroment .. not evolve and improve it ..

humans can sense small fluctuations in air pressure .. it gives us a warning if things are coming at us, or if air pressure drops then a bad storm probalby coming and we need to seek shelter .. that's the feeling of "something bad is gonna happen" at least that's what some scientist think! so that's not "life" giving us warnings, it's evolution that has given us tools to stay alive .. and the good side, bad side is also a big question .. because it has also been speculated that the Force itself is neither .. and it's how you use it .. DS powers are more powerful from a control and strenght point of view .. and power corrupts, this could be why it's dangerous to use those elements of the force .. because intelligent beings are fundamentally flawed and seek power, only to end up corrupted by their own desires!? it's the Acton "Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely", to give Jedis some human weaknesses .. imo

of course it's not real .. but neither is God(s) imo .. I can still discuss them/it though!

no I think the Force is more than life .. life itself does not speak to us or give us foresight .. The force binds life together, and upholds it I think .. much like our God(s) do! (from a theological point of view)

So I thought I would leave this board with a last post to round things up for me! Now The Force has been a big discussion issue for all SW fans I would think .. What is it exactly? What is the nature of it? Is it "intelligent"? is it indeed "alive? I always reckoned that it was a kind of God, or at least with the same capabilities as one .. Although perhaps not a sentient entity, still able to alter destiny and affect beings within it's sphere of influence! Some are force sensitive, they can hear the *will* of the force .. know this made me think .. does the Force choose who is Force Sensitive (and does it guide their actions through suggestion?) or is affinity with it a matter of biology and chance.. has the Force forseen the future, written it, altered it to fit it's will? .. is it even benevolent? If the force guides and shapes the events of history .. then it is responsible for the rise of the Sith (or any other evil power), for death of all those who dies in the wake of such a destiny .. Does the Force strive to evovle the races of the universe by such means, or simply toy with them, for it's own amusement? perhaps this is only answered if the nature of the Force is realized .. So what do you think it is? is it alive and sentient? and what do you think it wants? looking forward to hearing your thoughts.. - Rosbjerg

I'm leaving today .. Maybe I'll check back once in a while and see how things are going! but my activites on these boards will be toned down quite a bit in the next 2-3 months .. so thanks for great discussions and generally good manners! (but don't worry) I will definitely be back when I have the game myself!

my guess would be you live in France .. we grew up with subtitles and you grew up with dubbed films .. of course you prefer the one you grew up with! but dubbed films deprives the audience of an important thing imo, the free english lesson ..

yeah I liked it before too .. I always like to see how a discussion can drift off, it gives a good insight into the human psycke ..

it makes me twitch if an english product (especially game or movie) is translated to Danish .. urgh I hate it .. but Danish movies in danish are fine.. no translation though! I mean the lips look like they are going haywire and the words don't fit! it's more distracting than pleasing .. by the way Alyt, where are you from?

so if the voices in your head tells you to kill someone you do it? .. I know you will follow the cultural guidelines of your upbringing .. but todays religion, or what religion emphasises today is not war .. "turn the other cheak"? unless you totally disregard the second half of the bible you can't justify a war with Christianity!

1000 years ago, but not today???!!! So Bush saying that god was advising him to invade Iraq is not? I didn't say I blame religion as a malevolent, self-conscious force, but it is a tool nontheless. You cannot blame cigarettes either, but they facilitate the problem. it's just in my mind .. blaming anything but the person(s) behind the act is unthinkable .. people choose to smoke, who knows why, they die .. people choose to go to war, who knows why, they die .. You need to justify your actions to yourself, and I can see religion is a good excuse for some! but I will always blame the person, and not the ideal he follows .. they made the conscious choice ..

I never quite understood why then nations always call for god to pretect them in war. Surely some people are taking advantage of religion to accomplish their own means. yes they do .. but how can you blame religion for that?? seriously .. how? I just can't see it ..

true .. 1000 years ago .. not today .. most religions today focus heavily on compassion and respect for those around you! but people can twist the words of the religion to their needs, true .. I just don't see how you can blame religion for that! that's like saying the car is evil because some people use it to kill others with!

I don't believe in manipulation .. People always have the choice .. but I see you point, I just don't agree .. and neither do you with me so I guess this discussion is rather futile!

Well people are afraid if religion is telling them they gonna go to hell. because they want to believe it .. you can't blame the gun for killing the man .. you blame the man holding the gun!

simple psychology says that noone does anything that doesn't benfit them one way or the other .. so again, religion is not to blame .. but the people who let themselves be controlled!

I really disagree with blaming religion for anything .. it's what YOU put into it, and YOU are responsible for what you take out as well.. if you kill someone over religion the choice was yours! and your own fault .. religion isn't even responsible for all the good done it it's name either! it's free will that's to blame ..