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bah manipulation is easy .. sacrifice is fun! and to the conspiracy theorists: you just need to find a nice paranoid girl to share the last time before the end of the world with!

"The fact is games affect people" and that said .. we don't know to what extent, and it's better to focus on it then simply say "oh well .. let's see and hope for the best"

A general question .. Is it just me or is random acts of violence now a bigger part of everyday life than it was 5-10 years ago?? I see more severe beatings for every month, and I hear about more and more people trying the more extreme drugs! now its not just because I hang out with a bad crowd, I know my share of them though (and they aren't getting worse), but these are "normal" people .. or is it just Denmark going rotten?? because as I have said, but maybe I should clarify as well, I see extreme violence in movies and in games as a symptom of the desires from "normal" people .. it seems we want photo-realistic violence! to me that's a big warning sign! I know that the average person, today, can easily distinguish reality from fiction, and don't go out raping, murdering and pillaging from playing CS! but if violence because an everyday part of our lives, then won't we stop caring about it? .. If society is ok with the fact that violence is becoming entertainment and unconcerned with the youth becoming addicted to the rush of adrenalin, then the problem will one day get out of hands imo! I don't think people will turn into raging mad-men, but they will become immune to violence, and when they see someone being beaten at a club, they won't care.. that's my fear! that we will just stop caring ..

I think he was referring to that fact!

no spoilers .. he doesn't talk much about the game!

I like the pepsi twist .. or whatever it's called! but regular Cola over Pepsi! and Sprite if I must drink a soda! I don't drink much soda anymore or eat candy .. I just tastes too sweet for me now!

I can't play games like Silent Hill .. I get too scared!

I agree with you. The rating system is enough in my opinion. That is my biggest problem with the censorship of violence/sex/nudity in videogames. Why is the developer's or game store's job to make sure violence is kept out of the hands of the kids? I agree that kids generally aren't mature enough to be allowed access to ultra-violent games, but I don't think passing laws outlawing it or forcing game companies to tone down their games is the answer. It's just pushing the blame away from the parents and onto someone else and ignores the original problem of parents needing to have more responsibilty for their children. I mean, Heaven forbid a parent actually has to monitor what their kid is doing. <_< I absolutely hate the level of irresponsibility that is present in almost of every facet of society. Everyone wants to push blame for any little mistake or problem on someone else. This is just another example of it. Parents are responsible for making sure their kids are ready for violent things. My parents raised me that way and I am a mature, responsible adult. My little brother is being raised that way, and he is more mature than a lot of kids his age. It's no coincidence that the kids that have problems at my college are the kids that were taught to pass the blame and that they can do anything they want without consequences. But before I go off on society in general, violent games are ok if the violence isn't the only reason for the game's existance. I avoided Manhunt because it seemed to tout violence for no other reason than because it wanted to shock you. No, thanks. Half Life 2, on the other hand, isn't violent just for the sake of it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well I'm sure single mom with 2 kids would spend more time with her children if she could .. but unfortunately this society is a little big on the money issue, and raising children isn't exactly cheap! so she has to work, and with all her good intentions she has a hard time standing up and being a b**** the only 2 hours a day she talks to her son (who can blame her I guess .. nobody wasn't to be the enternal bad guy) .. I mean come on! parents aren't the extreme benevolent superbeings with an endless amount of patience! they are human beings .. and some of them are in extremely hard positions, where they *have* to work long hours each day to even get their kids to school! and you talk about misplacing blame?? and btw this wasn't meant as a total defence of parents .. some blame still rest with them! no doubt .. but not all of it!

I love it for a whole bunch of other reason .. the use of colour is brilliant! the simple philosophy of the film is explained very well through the styles of the fights and through nicely written dialouge! oh and did I mention the brilliant use of colours??? ------ and to Banblade .. well as I wrote the last part "only exceptional actors, and they are few and far apart, can lift an entire film by their mere presence!" I was thinking about the only 3 actors in the world I feel have perfected the art of acting .. some are good some are bad .. Affleck and Pitt are imo good, but not expectional! so you can't use that statement in your argument! because then everyone but the exceptionel actors would suck, and that is far from the case!

of course that's a worse case scenario 213374U.. but it does seem our culture has become increasingly violent, and the most visible signs are violence on TV/Games and a change in attitude towards it .. but as said, I think that's just symptoms, the games only get developed because people buy them and want them! so the need is there and not being forced on us! it seem we just want to see realistic violence! perhaps because our society has become sterile and dull (we are animals after all with animal urges and instincts)..

wouldn't you say? I don't think it's a need for realism that's driving this .. because realism isn't blood and human intestines being molested by a AK-47 .. and the people who have actually seen that don't want to relive it again in a VG! I think it's a need for violence, for blood and death .. and to push it further, more real so we can really see how it is to kill a person! without actually doing it .. In small quantities I can accept that, but when it turns into an addiction of it, then we have a serious problem imo!

which isn't what I want .. because violence would still be on everyones mind! and they can still watch TV to see violence for that matter! all the same .. games are only 1% of it, and a symptom, not the disease ..

yes I want to able to play a violent game as well when I want to .. but some can't handle it, and I personally think that everyone, developers, parents, buyers, society etc etc should take a more active role in trying to help and prevent the addiction to violence and/or the adrenalin rush for those who can't handle it!

some interesting info (From the Wikipedia page of the earthquake ..) Power of the earthquake The total energy released by a magnitude 9.0 earthquake is equivalent to 32,000 megatons of TNT or 133 exajoules (1.33

"Would you buy a game with no violence, no complications, no problems?" why would no violence also include "no complications, no problems"? would I buy such a game? no .. boring as hell .. but would I buy a game with complications and problems? yes .. story-driven and hopefully interesting! I don't need violence in a game for me to think it's good! do you?

ahh Hitchhiker wasn't very well advertised! it's more like a cult than a classic .. still a great and extremely funny story imo! but classic, no that's for the epic literature.. and of the greatest authors (in my complete personal opinion disregarding everything I've learned about classical literature): Oscar Wilde

Affleck is very good actor .. once he is allowed to develop on the role he has! it's hard to act on a crappy script! which he have had plenty of! But Brad Pitt is also a great actor (Seven, Fight club), but when he gets a role with very little room for personal interpretation (Troy) his acting sucks .. so blame the film! not the actor .. only exceptional actors, and they are few and far apart, can lift an entire film by their mere presence!

you can get that as well at my local pizzaria .. for 12$ though .. still cheap!

as Mkreku said .. a constant exposure to violence will cause immunity! and when the violence looks exactly like reality, maybe that limit will be reached even faster .. I just think developers should think long and hard about how necessary it is to their game! I mean news station doesn't show all to many pictures of extremely mutilated bodies .. and to Hades about the PETA .. go for it!

nooo ... you caaan't do thaaat!!! (convincing?)

I could definitely imagine! although you get immune after a day or so! (as long as you stay in the room)

It would cost me several thousand dollars to have that .. and I would need to go to Germany to get proper doctors with enough experiance! I have contactlinses and they work ok.. doesn't help much on the colorblind issue though! I like to think it helps my creativity, seeing the world in a different perspective of colours every day! but enough of this off-topic nonsense .. it's a perfectly good thread! no reason to get it locked!! someone say something extremely controversial so we can disagree!!

ah yes .. pulling an all-weekender role-playing! aahhh the memories .. the memories!

maybe 2 small objects have gotten stuck .. and you never realised it? I'm cursed with bad eyes .. extremely short sighted (close to blind), with a defect in the eyes construction, extremely colorblind! yep .. I want to be a pilot! maybe you should work with flowers Hades?? Like Beethoven composed music even though he was deaf .. I think we can do it!!

a good article on the history of game controversy on GameSpot .. a