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What's really disgusting me is how freaking *many* of these "There are women doing things that I don't like women doing in this game!" so-called reviews have been showing up lately. Really makes me question my self-identity as a "gamer" when I see what's up with parts of gamer culture these days. I just don't understand why of all games it's this one that's getting ragged on for these reasons. So far this is like the least "political" game I've played all year. Remember when the new Wolfenstein came out and people freaked about how you were killing Nazi's and that was clearly SJW propaganda? Despite killing Nazi's being the basis for the *entire franchise since 1981*? Yeah. I honestly don't think these people even need a reason.

It's a circle of Archmagi. When you see somebody's name on a spell - that's a circle archmage. Names like Concelhaut, Arkemyr, Ninagauth, Minoletta, Llengrath, etc. And from what I encountered in that conversation, they're a bunch of arrogant, manipulative **** *to the last*.

I'm gonna be honest here. Totally forgot about Kaali when that giant magic-eating imp showed up; burned him alive on accident. Sory, Kaali. Maybe next playthrough.

What's really disgusting me is how freaking *many* of these "There are women doing things that I don't like women doing in this game!" so-called reviews have been showing up lately. Really makes me question my self-identity as a "gamer" when I see what's up with parts of gamer culture these days.

THIS **** again. I guess some people are just determined to see an agenda no matter how you depict gender and sexuality in video games. It must be an absolute nightmare to be a developer in the age of gamergate. 1. Takehu is initially depicted as a self-obsessed narcissist, not an awesomesauce superhero designed to elevate his depiction as gay. He's one of the most flawed characters in the game. 2. Serafen isn't "whipped" by the women in his life, he's an affable scoundrel who doesn't call his lovers back and gets into awkward situations when he runs into them. This has been a media trope for AGES. 3. Eder is generally depicted as self-reflective and good-natured. I can't recall a single line where he comes off as "impossibly stupid." You're looking for stuff that isn't there so you can justify a theory - which you came into the game already believing - that Obsidian has an agenda to elevate women and emasculate or otherwise diminish men. Both the male and female characters in Deadfire are about as varied as the format allows, which is to say that you're going to see a fair amount of standard fantasy archetypes on both sides. The female leaders in the game aren't going to behave like the upper management at your work because no fantasy characters behave like the upper management at your work. In a 50-100 hour game with hundreds of characters, you're often going to find characters with 1-2 singularly defining traits. This isn't rocket science and was never an issue until a certain perpetually aggrieved segment of the gaming community decided that changes in representation aren't simply a natural reflection of a changing culture, but an insidious plot by man-hating queer feminist developers to persecute them and take away everything they hold dear. It's just a game, man. The fact that you put this much effort into weaving a distorted web of prejudices and agendas out of thin air speaks to a straight white male persecution complex that I as a straight white male can never begin to understand. Also, Serafen isn't straight. He will happily sleep with a male watcher, and if you ask if he slept with his mentor who is male will say "No, though I wouldn't have kicked them out of bed."

... Svef being basically cannabis. Snrrrk. No, no, no. Svef is a powder made from berries that induces hallucinations. It's nothing like cannabis. *WHITELEAF* is cannabis; it's a common weed that's dried and smoked in a pipe and induces a sense of calm and lethargy.

But...you liked KOTOR 2? I'm so confused here.

I don't see why not. There's some foods that give additional bonuses to certain classes, too. I'm fine with it.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. I honestly can't believe this was left out of the game. It seems like a basic UI functionality--fundamental and *necessary* to make proper choices in the game.

Also, question:

Gameplay reasons. That's it. There's no lore reason, it's jut a gameplay thing. And it's pretty much standard in sequels, so....whatever.

Cat-like. They're halfway inbetween a real cat-person and a hobbit.

Basically Wild Orlan There's a mod to turn Serafen's portrait into a cat-person portrait and literally all it does is give him a muzzle. Everything else is the same.

I imagine orlans--both hearth and wild--are just like everybody else with variability on how much hair they have, but with the caveat that "high end" for a hearth orlan is very slightly furry, while "high end" for a wild orlan is "thick shaggy pelt".

Those things are freaking *HARSH*. I had no idea that was a thing and just walked into the room trying to take out the traps, and holy **** am I glad I saved just out side the room.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance Intolerance cannot and should not be tolerated. The intolerant are not engaging in debate in good faith; they are attempting to use the tools of good faith debate to destabilize and dominate. At this point these days in America, if your first reaction to a work of fiction with actual female characters in it is "UGH SJW," there's no point to further discussion. Social justice is not a pejorative, it is a moral imperative. If you can justify being intolerant of one thing to protect society, you can probably justify more than one using the same kind of logic. Also who gets to define whats intolerant? This is Antifa's line of reasoning, and it seems to me, pretty unreasonable - attacking people without any real examination of their ideas and their validity. I'm reminded of Jordan Peterson's line of thought- speech and discourse is a way of exploring and refining ideas. If you restrict via authoritarian means what can and can't be said, then you restrict the ability to explore and refine ideas and worldviews and at the same time you empower the state in a way that is wide open to abuse - to control peoples speech for the benefit of their own interests rather than the public interest. And of course there's the idea you are replying to, which is that an idea can breed more in environments where it cannot be rebutted or responded to. Anyway, I suppose in the age of the internet, it's impossible to suppress ideas. Try as some organisations might. If you can't stop shanks in prison, or drugs in the general populace, then your hope of suppressing ideas is pretty low. 1) That's a slippery slope fallacy. It's not actually a thing; just because I don't want to give "let's kill all the black people" the legitimacy of a debate doesn't mean I'm going to ban free speech. 2) That assumes that every idea is equal and worth being explored and refined, and that's simply not true. Some ideas--like the aforementioned "let's kill all the black people"--are simply bad from the get-go, and can be safely placed in the realm of "utter horse****" without any need of exploration or refinement. Indeed, in cases like this by "exploring the idea" and "coming to a mutual understanding" what you end up doing is shifting the standard of society; by engaging in the debate and exploration, you not only give the idea legitimacy but pull the "acceptable things" towards that other idea. So instead of one guy saying "black people deserve equal rights" and one guy saying "let's kill all the black people", you end up with a debate where "let's enslave all the black people" seems like a reasonable position in comparison to the opening salvo.

Wow. Just...wow. There is so much wrong with this post I'm not sure where to start. 1) The idea that women have to be intellectual while men are physical is just not accurate, *especially* not in a fantasy setting where magic etc. is a thing. Also, do you *not* remember playing as Ciri and beating the Bloody Baron at everything a "man" can do, including slaughtering the **** out of a griffin that he and all his male soldiers couldn't do anything about? 2) One of the *most powerful pirate captains in history* was a woman, Ching Shih, who led a fleet of *forty thousands* pirates on *300* ships. In real, actual life--women were sometimes pirates and sometimes actual pirate captains. 3) Woman blacksmiths were also an actual thing, although guild laws generally forbode them from smithing outside of their husbands or sons shop. They were sometimes *REALLY* good; a woman named Elizabeth Benent forged the iron gates at Blenheim Palace.

Incel is just a new word for virgin. Like thot is a new word for s**t. That's all it means - it's a way of shaming men who haven't had sex, or aren't "studs". Every male who has ever existed has seen this in high school - the sex bragging etc. It's in its way a very teenage word. It's just the rebirth of a very old idea. I'm not sure its accurate to ascribe political ideology to a word that just means you can't get laid. I'd personally be suspicious of any doomsdaying threat narrative article that does so, especially if peoples way of doing so is taking the ideas of some subreddit as an emergent ideological faith. You can't get by a day without some moral panic from the left about some new bogeyman - Nazi's, the far left, the alt-right, mra's, male supremicists and how they are all going to take over the world and bring about the demise of liberal democracy. I guess that's why the handmaidens tale does so well. The right used to do the same thing, banging on about satanic child abuse, reds under the bed, or how d&d turns people into serial killers. They still do sometimes. Maybe sometimes those risks are valid, but most of the time a moral panic seems to be unjustified. Personally as someone who is 40, I've got no time for people who think being a virgin is something to be ashamed of. You shouldn't seek your validation in other people, life will teach you that one way or another. Nor do I have much time for moral panics either - civilisation is probably an instable proposition anyway. Everything from food scarcity as the population grows, war, to national debt causing a global depression, to an asteroid wiping us out is always on the cards. Those threats are always there. Society is changing at a pace, and that itself could be unstable. Easier just to enjoy what you have, support reasonable thinking, and accept that not everything is in your control. There's always darkness in the human heart too. And people who feel jilted, oppressed or hard done by and like other people owe them something for their feelings. People are basically selfish creatures, by and large, and they'll project their negative experiences onto other people if they go the wrong way. I prefer to spend my time amazed and in admiration of those with large stores of compassion and optimism, which is probably more remarkable given how life can be pretty hard. *Actually you know what that all reminds me of? The moral panic thing? The animancy plot in poe1 - how everyone thought they were the end of civilisation. "Incel" is not merely a new word for virgin and it's not something that others have ascribed to this group – it's a name that they have chosen for themselves as a sort of badge of martyrdom. Incels blame women for their singlehood and view the fact that they aren't having sex as an injustice committed against them by a degenerate society that refuses to see their value. They feel entitled to sex, hold beliefs deeply grounded in heterosexism, openly entertain violent fantasies, and have a lot of (not surprising) crossover with gamergate. I'm all for freedom of expression and anti-alarmism, but you can't call a group a "Boogeyman" "invented" by the left once they've actually started killing people. Collier Township, Santa Barbara, and now Toronto were all carried out by angry men active in the incel community. You don't have to believe that a group is actually going to bring about a male supremacist social shift to recognize it as a threat for wanting to. Well, as I said in my last post, I think that's sort of a yes and no. Yeah it is a former reddit community and an online presence but it's also a virgin shaming word. Most of the time when you here it used in conversation, it's used to describe other people, not self-describe. I guess those communities are pretty insular. It's interesting actually the cultural emergence of this, well to me. It coincides with some large changes in the millennial sexual dynamic. Record low marriages, women under 30 have twice the number of partners as men under 30, and there is a roughly 150 percent increase in the number of millienials who are virgins at 26. Sort of a tinder culture, hypergamy thing - some people are having a lot more sex, most are having less. I mean this all from a detached, sort of human psychology archetypal type POV, it's not 'interesting" in the sense that two young men have gone jihadi over it. Gamergate is a whole nother issue, it's kind of a weird little thing, and it's another divisive topic, so I'll just leave that one. Problem: This thread *IS* gamergate. Straight up, this thread--and it's opening post most especially--are emblematic of the whole gamergate fiasco.

It's interesting to note that two gods sacrificed their lives to save and protect Kith civilization, and both of those gods were male--Eothas and Abyddon. Even Hylia, supposedly the motherly goddess, shows very little concern for the lives of mortals.

Woedica is literally the worlds biggest bitch, Xoti can become a psychopathic serial killer, and Maia is an assassin. Are men really so insecure that they can interpret having the main villain be a bad guy as an attack on our sex? Dear god. She's a likeable assassin though. She feels bad afterwards lol. And she doesn't like slavery. Wait, xoti can be a psychopathic serial killer? Yeah, if you take her down the path of pushing her towards hoarding souls and "looking for the darkness", she goes ****ing *NUTS*.

Woedica is literally the worlds biggest bitch, Xoti can become a psychopathic serial killer, and Maia is an assassin. Are men really so insecure that they can interpret having the main villain be a bad guy as an attack on our sex? Dear god. Eothas is the *antogonist*. He's not a villain; if anything he is by far the most caring, nurturing, forgiving, and *compassionate* of the gods. And he's a dude, so take that for what it's worth.

Males weigh, on average, about 15% more than females--this is reduced from other primates, where males are on average 25%-30% larger than females. In all other primates, males have elongated canines compared to females--this is not present at all. The same is true of brow ridges, which in other apes are much more pronounced in males. There's also the matter of hidden estrus; in the vast majority of other primates (excluding bonobos), females in estrus have physiological changes that strongly differentiate them from males and allow the males to know that they are fertile; humans do not have any form of estrus at all, so these physiological distinctions don't exist. There is also what's called "general robustness". That is, the average difference in muscle mass and physical strength is much higher between other male and female primates than it is among human males and females. I thought it would be size differences. Maybe theres a greater difference in prenatal testosterone. That's an interesting question for a study. In general I would postulate that human beings have generally lower levels of testosterone as compared to the other apes, because this would correlate with a more highly cooperative, less aggressive setting especially among the male population.

Incel is just a new word for virgin. Like thot is a new word for s**t. That's all it means - it's a way of shaming men who haven't had sex, or aren't "studs". Every male who has ever existed has seen this in high school - the sex bragging etc. It's in its way a very teenage word. It's just the rebirth of a very old idea. I'm not sure its accurate to ascribe political ideology to a word that just means you can't get laid. I'd personally be suspicious of any doomsdaying threat narrative article that does so, especially if peoples way of doing so is taking the ideas of some subreddit as an emergent ideological faith. You can't get by a day without some moral panic from the left about some new bogeyman - Nazi's, the far left, the alt-right, mra's, male supremicists and how they are all going to take over the world and bring about the demise of liberal democracy. I guess that's why the handmaidens tale does so well. The right used to do the same thing, banging on about satanic child abuse, reds under the bed, or how d&d turns people into serial killers. They still do sometimes. Maybe sometimes those risks are valid, but most of the time a moral panic seems to be unjustified. Personally as someone who is 40, I've got no time for people who think being a virgin is something to be ashamed of. You shouldn't seek your validation in other people, life will teach you that one way or another. Nor do I have much time for moral panics either - civilisation is probably an instable proposition anyway. Everything from food scarcity as the population grows, war, to national debt causing a global depression, to an asteroid wiping us out is always on the cards. Those threats are always there. Society is changing at a pace, and that itself could be unstable. Easier just to enjoy what you have, support reasonable thinking, and accept that not everything is in your control. It's *really* important to note that "incel" is *NOT* simply another term for a virgin. EVERYBODY is a virgin until a certain point in their lives; not everybody is an incel. "Incel" is a term *from their subculture* that is used by people to self-identify as members of a particular subculture. This subculture revolves entirely around these mens inability to obtain a sexual relationship, to such an extent that they consider "not having sex" to be a, perhaps the, *defining trait* of their life. They've developed all sorts of subcultural jargon revolving around this aspect of their lives; "incel", "a chad", "a stacy', etc. It's highly interwoven with the "pick-up artist" subculture, as the people who describe themselves as "incels" are basically the monetary bread-and-butter of the pick-up artists "self-help" career. Incel was coined as a derogatory term for virgin. It's a meme. Much like "chad" is a meme. And 'stacy'. Incels didn't invent the term, nor stacy, nor chad. These are all just words millennials made up online, in their little jingoistic way to describe things. if it's become associated with some subreddit, or online subculture, that's secondary to it's inception, and general meaning - an insult for guys who can't get sex. When you look at the hackjobs the left have done on MRAs or the new right, or centrists like Jordan Peterson, I'd definately be relunctant to get my info directly from them. Feminists have latched onto this term much like they did "nice guy tm". Could be that this subculture of people who self-describe as incels is exactly as you say. Or maybe it's exaggerated. Hard to say, but the feminist quarter doesn't have a good track record in hyperbole and moral panic. I'm sorry, but you're *dead* wrong about this. The term "incel" derives from "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project", a website from 1997, whose first newsletter was titled "INVCEL". The term is self-derived within the founding of the subculture. Well it's definately used as an insult for men who can't have sex in the same way virgin was. And I don't think that it's only use these days is people who self-describe as incels and have a particular ideology. That's not how I see the word used - it's generally used by people to describe other people, not people to describe themselves. As you can see, chad and stacy are not incel inventions: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/chad-thunder**** Maybe I don't attend the right websites, but I've never seen anyone ask if someone identifies as an incel before they use the word to describe other people. Chad came from the bodybuilding community, same as "soyboy". Just because it's used as an insult doesn't mean that's how it started or originated. As the incel community has gained prominence, they've been derided and insulted, as their own word for themselves has been taken and used as an insult for a large group of people whether they're a part of the subculture or not. It's a not-uncommon thing for a word to be taken out of it's original context and used as an insult later.

Incel is just a new word for virgin. Like thot is a new word for s**t. That's all it means - it's a way of shaming men who haven't had sex, or aren't "studs". Every male who has ever existed has seen this in high school - the sex bragging etc. It's in its way a very teenage word. It's just the rebirth of a very old idea. I'm not sure its accurate to ascribe political ideology to a word that just means you can't get laid. I'd personally be suspicious of any doomsdaying threat narrative article that does so, especially if peoples way of doing so is taking the ideas of some subreddit as an emergent ideological faith. You can't get by a day without some moral panic from the left about some new bogeyman - Nazi's, the far left, the alt-right, mra's, male supremicists and how they are all going to take over the world and bring about the demise of liberal democracy. I guess that's why the handmaidens tale does so well. The right used to do the same thing, banging on about satanic child abuse, reds under the bed, or how d&d turns people into serial killers. They still do sometimes. Maybe sometimes those risks are valid, but most of the time a moral panic seems to be unjustified. Personally as someone who is 40, I've got no time for people who think being a virgin is something to be ashamed of. You shouldn't seek your validation in other people, life will teach you that one way or another. Nor do I have much time for moral panics either - civilisation is probably an instable proposition anyway. Everything from food scarcity as the population grows, war, to national debt causing a global depression, to an asteroid wiping us out is always on the cards. Those threats are always there. Society is changing at a pace, and that itself could be unstable. Easier just to enjoy what you have, support reasonable thinking, and accept that not everything is in your control. It's *really* important to note that "incel" is *NOT* simply another term for a virgin. EVERYBODY is a virgin until a certain point in their lives; not everybody is an incel. "Incel" is a term *from their subculture* that is used by people to self-identify as members of a particular subculture. This subculture revolves entirely around these mens inability to obtain a sexual relationship, to such an extent that they consider "not having sex" to be a, perhaps the, *defining trait* of their life. They've developed all sorts of subcultural jargon revolving around this aspect of their lives; "incel", "a chad", "a stacy', etc. It's highly interwoven with the "pick-up artist" subculture, as the people who describe themselves as "incels" are basically the monetary bread-and-butter of the pick-up artists "self-help" career. Incel was coined as a derogatory term for virgin. It's a meme. Much like "chad" is a meme. And 'stacy'. Incels didn't invent the term, nor stacy, nor chad. These are all just words millennials made up online, in their little jingoistic way to describe things. if it's become associated with some subreddit, or online subculture, that's secondary to it's inception, and general meaning - an insult for guys who can't get sex. When you look at the hackjobs the left have done on MRAs or the new right, or centrists like Jordan Peterson, I'd definately be relunctant to get my info directly from them. Feminists have latched onto this term much like they did "nice guy tm". Could be that this subculture of people who self-describe as incels is exactly as you say. Or maybe it's exaggerated. Hard to say, but the feminist quarter doesn't have a good track record in hyperbole and moral panic. I'm sorry, but you're *dead* wrong about this. The term "incel" derives from "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project", a website from 1997, whose first newsletter was titled "INVCEL". The term is self-derived within the founding of the subculture.