KingSnake

Hmm...is that every third playthrough I wonder, or just completion of LS and DS? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's just a third play through. I have never played a DS toon, and still got the extra dialog from Atton and Handmadien. KingSnake.

Yeah, something is fishy with them sensors... if ONLY you had a spikey headed tech genious around to help you slice them and see what's really going on... (to suttle a hint?) KingSnake.

I've had both eating out of my hand by the end of the game. Visas gives me the whole, i love you, lets look at each other with the force, thing, and i've had handmaiden tell me her name and pledge her life to me. Both have cat fights over me on a regular basis, and i've influince each to maxium glowing light sight levels. To the point were the SHOULD get a light side bonus, but don't. I just don't think ANY romance can be followed to the, "kiss" level of KoToR 1. It just wasn't the focus of this game. It's hinted at, toyed with, but then left to your imanagion. KingSnake

That skill doesn't work. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> seemed to work for me. if not, this game is hands down the buggiest game of all time. hope it's fixed for the pc release. but that still doesn't answer my question. and as for moving meditation, it to allows for you to refill you blue bar outside of battle. talk to t3, if your force is depleated, and he's got some damage, you repair him, and replinish your force. But you have to fully repair him, both computer and repair checks, to get this option. once you complete the last combinded repair, you gain a +1 to your wizdom, and can use moving medation. KingSnake.

There's two. One your learn like, right at the start of the game. You see "bad" stuff is going to happen, and, your adviced to save. It's a power Kreia teaches you. It's like your first force power you ever learn. The second is learned from the handmadian, after your first duel. You able to say something like, "you seem to see my attacking before i use them..." basicly she can see the attacks comming. you can ask her to teach you how to do it. See says you are already doing it... and then comments about how if i'm doing it without knowing i'm doing it, then training me will make me super deadly. She then teaches you it. and says something like, now you fight as an Echuni does, in the future. That's BATTLE perconcintive. (or something like that.) it adds you wizdom bonus to your defencive bonus. The other is just called Perconcition. (if you can't tell, i can't spell.) There is a difference. And i'm wondering, since Females can't get the madien, can they somehow still learn this skill? I know the guy, the Disciple teachs you how to medite.. but i learned how to do that by working on T3.. and got a free wizdom point to boot. Is Disciple's medatition different/better then moving medatition i learn with T3? and if it isn't... are The female PC's just out of luck when it comes to the Battle Percog? KingSnake.

Now, as a male, we get handmadian, and, as such, we can learn the amazing helpful "battle percongive" passive force power. Can a female pc learn this power somehow? And if not, do they get an equaly as useful power the males have no access too? Just wondering, my sister is playing a Female, almost the same build as mine, but he defence isn't any near mine, cause, i get like an extra +10 thanks to that power. (it add's your wisdom modifier too your defence. that plus dueling plus your jedi defence and dex bonus really adds up. ) Just wondering. KingSnake.

I have noticed that, in this game, the quests are extreamlly sencitivy to order of opration. VERY VERY sencitive. One false step and the side quest your on is in the crapper. Even now, in my 5th time thur, i've still yet to figure out how to get the 2 excappiess on Talos to spawn... or how to get the Voggie the Hut quest topice to complete... I've also botched the Star Port visa quest, by waiting to long to hand out the vises... and countless others because, you have to do them before such and such a time, but after such and such.... I'm wondering if the dev's ment it that way, or if it's just another example of the games over all uber buggyness. But i belive it may be possilbe to get it back... it's just complacatied, and, as with other quests in this game, the more complacated the quest, the more options you have to brake it. I mean, it took me 4 play throughs and 3 topic messges here to figure out how to get Vas to teach me force sight.... and the whole reason i missed it the first 3 times is, you only get one shot at it, and it's a kind of obsucre dialog option you really have to be looking for to find. Heck my first two times asking about it, people though i was crasy. By the 3, people started finding it, and some brain storming was done. anyway. I think there's prolly a way. And if there isn't... i belive the WAS a way, but it got cut out, much like the hk 50 base... which is heavly hinted to in the game, but totally unfindable. And that my friends, SUCKS ROCKS. KingSnake. (I have a very strong love hate relashionship with this game right now. The PC verson had better be less buggy than this. This is boarding on completlly annoying. If i didn't like the feel of the game so much, i'd have returned it by now...)

I noticed that, once i becamce a watchmen at lvl 15, i got Lightsaber focus for free... which is really cool to know, now if i play a Watchmen again, I know i can save a feat by waiting to upgrade my lightlsaber skills. What i'm wondering now is, is it the same for all other prestage classes? Or do they get different feats, maybe on gets Advanced Jedi defence or something like that... If anyone out there has class charts to help me plan my builds.. that be really helpful. Once i've beaten the game, I find the funnist aspect of the game is all in char design and building kick butt jedi... But i have found NO charts showing which feats we get for free and when we accually get a feat per level... any help will be much appreacited. KingSnake.

My Jedi Weapon Master just kind of walks in the room and gives him a stern look... And he falls over dead.... i think they made the game alittle to easy... LoL. I think my fight went like this. *walk in* Sion" You can never defeat me." *Force Enlightment* Flurry (just once) Sion" I'm unkillable" *Force Enlightment* Flurry (just once) Sion"Damn man that hurt!" *Force Enlightment* Flurry (just once) Sion"ok you can stop now..." *Force Enlightment* Flurry (just once) *Sion runs off crying for his mommy* And that was on hard... KingSnake

Bio is a tricky one. (well not really, you just have to use him unlike others who'll open up to you without ever having to leave the Hawk.) Just talking to him isn't enough. You accually have to use him, and get some influince that way. My first play through i couldn't change him to a jedi, or get any other dialoge then, "Yes, General?" That was it. The reason for that was i never used him. I got handmadien right after him, and Visas right after her, and well, that was that. Second time, i used him more, and gained influance for, saving a sick guy, letting him inspect my work on the air speeder... showing charity, ect, and his dialog options opened up, and i turned him into a Jedi rather quickly. Next time through i'm going to use him even more to see if i can get him to tell me more about that planet killing mechine he made on M5... As for Prestage, you need to be 15, have Visas in your party, and be maxxed out at eather the light or dark side. then talk to Kreia and your all set. KingSnake.

I read somewhere it's a special color for Hight Def TV's and computer moniters... But It just looks orange to me. I got one off the Dead Jedi Chick in the cage, and one for completeing the Shrine in the cave on Korobon. After beating Reven's vision. It was a DBL saber. I accually it both times i played through. After beating reven each time, i got a bronze DBL saber. I think it's supposted to be Bastalis saber. May be different depending on who you answered your KoToR 1 questions, but i answered them the same each time, and got the saber each time. (LS Male Reven) KingSnake. (just adding my 2 cents.)

Both loot and store bought items are randimized. It's different each play through. I got the light blue crystal this play through, by saving right before i went shoping at the duro's brothers shop on Telos, and reloading till i found a color i wanted. eventually Cyan came up. I bought it and life was good. be warned, i think that color is bugged. once i got it, and went to build my saber, it wouldn't allow me too. i accually had to by another color, yellow i think, build the saber, then switch out the stones. and i've notice that with that stone in my saber, my saber NEVER shuts off. NEVER. You've been warned. LoL. KingSnake.

Hmm. I talked to her, got all them conversation options and no force sight... maybe it's got to do with the prestage class. Because after the end of our first conversation run, i was still just a sentenal, and i was awarded an awarness bonus... maybe had i been a Watchmen, i'd have been awarded Force Sight... Hmm. Anyone else care to comment on how they got force sight? Where a Perstage class at the time? KingSnake.

off the top of my head. on telos, you have the option to fight the handmadiens. it's like 5 fights. goes from fighting one hand to hand, to fighting all 5 with everything you got. it can get tricky. Then, on the Hawk, you can fight / spar with Handmaden, if your a male that is. You strip down to your undies and do battle... You fight her like 3 times total at different point in the game to incress her influence, so long as you win. Then on the Moon, forget it's name... Duxan i think. You can fight in the Mandolorian fighting cicrle. some rules apply as the madiens, for the most part, you fight hand to hand or with swords, but your jedi powers are a no no until the last fight. KingSnake.

No... i'm to manly for my own good and have a hard time playing a female lead... i just can't bring myself to ... flirt... with Carth. LOL. But i did find a Bastila message. :cool: Me and T3 are tight. KingSnake.

My handmadien was a monster with her saberstaff. I trained her in the force late, so she didnt have alot of powers, but, her master speed plus her master attack skills (all 3 mastered) and super lightsaber = more death and distruction with a saber then my main PC could do. She was impressive with her melee combat. Easily the best in my party. KingSnake.

She, as in the hand maden, never got angry at me... I had them both eating out of the palm of my hand the first go around... prolly some bad dialoge chosses you made or something. Don't know. I'm assuming that, since i told Keria, in an attempt to gain influince, that since i told her i'd keep an eye on both of them, and wasn't romanticly intrested in either, she never bothered to start any crap between the two... *shrug* I hope i don't run into this issue this time around... or ever. LOL. i like them both. KingSnake

Keria: "Do not mate with her." Me: "Hey, just cause i saved her life doesn't mean i'm going to go charging up her entry ramp!" I about died. KingSnake.

http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showtopic=26938 Here's one. I've read a few more examples like this too. To lazy to look for them. KingSnake.

Ok, first time through, I got V, and was as kind as i could be. Followed all dialoge options, and got a message about force sight. I thought I learned the skill, but, after looking, i had not. I talked to her on a off for the rest of the game, and she never tough it to me... Second time through, pretty much the same thing so far... but i asked in passing about it, and someone told me that she, and not i, learn force sight... which doesn't really make since to me... i thought that's how her people see... but after reading the dialog more closely, i assume that i help "fix" her sight, cause it was damaged... but, people replyed that they themselfs learned force sight too. From Keria, after talking to V. Ok, i did that, i picked the dialog about my eyes being effected, and she put me throught some Jedi training and i gained some awarness bonuses and force points, but no force sight. That option lead into the mind reading lession, and after that, another lession i can't take just yet. But no force sight. I go back to V, only the standered options, "Who's your daddy, err, master" How'd you find me, yedda yedda." No option to talk about sight again. So here i am, a second time, no force sight... not that that's a huge deal i guess, but, i've heard alot of people talk about having it on there PC, and i'm wondering what i did wrong to miss it. I'm a Sentenal, about ready to train to a Watchmen... do i need to BE a watchmen before i ask about my sight to gain this skill? any help is much appreacited. KingSnake.

can you answer a question for me... In my first game, i had V teach me Force Sight, or at least i thought i did...(could never get the same dialoge option again.) but i never accually got the power... Why? KingSnake.

man, where are they? I saw them in Cerka, i reported back to the Lt. Then i scowered the station. Nada. I figured they'd be on the surface, maybe in the merc camp. so i go on. Nada. I looked all over the surface of Talos i could, and didn't see hide nor hair of them. Right now i'm about to leave the Jedi place in the polor caps, and i'm wondering where they are? On dant? I heard talk of merks heading there.... but, in my old game, after i leave telos can come back, the LT doesn't have anything to say to me any more... ithink cause i pissed him off for leaving or something... so i don't understand what's up... have i blown this quest? I R confused... KingSnake.

be as good as possible until you get to the end of Nar Shadad, then take a noise dive into the dark side. My may need to suck it up and take a few light side hits to get high influince with Her if your hoping to cruipt her as well, becasue you two have to be tight if your alingment is going to effect her. KingSnake.

I like it. I really liked how you just kind of made it on the fly with parts you find around. I've made myself a deal, the first saber crystal color (s) i find is my color for the game. (If i have more then one before i construct my saber, i'll pick between them then.) Way i look at it is begger's can't be chossers, and in the benging of the game, when your scraping and scrunging for a saber, I can't see my guy saying, "what? green... i hate green, i'll wait till i find purple before i build my saber." and, once i've chossen a color, i almost NEVER change out the crystal for my main PC... I don't know why, i guess i figure i built it this way, that's the way it stays. I have no issues at all changing my other guys sabers around... don't know why that is. LOL. anyway, the first and only crystal i found the first time around way yellow, and yellow was my color for the whole game. This time, i looks like it's blue. I wonder what it'll be next time. hmm. LoL. My only grip is i'd love to have also picked my hilt style, or at least have it be different then the rest... but, all in all, this is much better then the first Knights, "your a jedi now, here's your saber". KINGSNAKE.

Being a Jedi is all about fenis, balance, speed, and Dex. I was a Sentenal/Watchmen. 15/12 I mastered Dueling, Flurry, LightSabers, Lightsaber Finess, Toughness, Force Regain... maybe one of two more feats... can't recall. All light side powers. Masterd Heal, Armor, Speed, Valor, Mind Control, Mind trick, Push, Stun, Engery resist to lvl 2, maybe more... can't quite recall. I singleblade, totally badass lightsaber. My skills were maxed out Awarness, Presuide. High lvl Stealth, Computer, and lockpicking skills. My dude was sickingly powerful. Force Attuniment (Speed, Armor, Valor) + Stun, + Master flurry = 4 stricks from my powerful lightsaber, with added Sneak Attack bonus (think i had lvl 4 or 5.) = dead everything in one pass. Heck, i didn't even need to use my saber, nothing resisted my force push. I'd kill whole rooms without a scratch, Stun them, Push push push. Dead. Bosses i couldn't stun easily, died with 2 flurry passes. I never needed my energy shields. Barely had to use health packs. My defence was insaine. I had a really high dex. Hand maden tought me a force skill that added my wisdom to my defence. And my Wizdom was huge. My saber had defence mods... Flurry had no penetaly... My robe wasn't all that powerful in defence, but it made up for it with monster Wiz Int and Cha buffs. I was almost untouchable. My power was insane. I could hardly belive it. I was, untouchable. I completed the game without one single death. Not one. This game, as much as i loved it, was to easy. KingSnake. (Although, i did feel like a Jedi... in that, i was almost god like to all non Jedi oppointents.)