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Amazing! The look on HM's face when she's fighting Visas is very striking, and the last pic is just hilarious. Please do share more when it comes

I killed Handmaiden. As in, actually killed her. Dead. We were sparring, and at the very beginning of the fight I cast a Force power (to cancel the fight). This was before she turned hostile, and i guess the result was that her healing script bugged out. So I reduced her hp to 0 and she dropped dead. Huh? I walked up and looted her body. Sure enough ,it had all the equipment I had given her. Double huh?? Then I went to check my NPC party screen. There was a empty spot where Handmaiden had been. ??? Oh, crud. Luckily, I had a recent save so I reloaded it and things were fine from there, but I was very cautious in all future duels against her, lol. The same thing happened when I was fighting the Handmaiden sisters. I cast a Force power at the very beginning of the fight, before she turned hostile, and I guess the game treated her as a normal monster. The rest of my characters stepped in to help me finish me off. Same thing in the Mandalorian battle circle.

Anyone found any Easter eggs or any other amusing things in your games? I've started another game, playing as dark side this time, and had an funny run-in on Telos. When you first get released by the Republic, you can wander over to the Exchange headquarters where a Rodian is guarding the door. He doesn't let you in, but you can threaten and kill him for darkside points ("Let me in or I kill you") When you return to the area, another Rodian is now guarding the door. When you talk to him, you have the option of saying (paraphrase) "You know what happened to the last guard who didn't let me in?" "What?" "He died." and then you can kill him too. Come back a third time, and yet another Rodian is there! This time, he sees you approaching and goes "You--oh no, look, I really can't let you in or they'll kill me!" I got a good chuckle out of that, and of course killed him again to see what would happen. Sure enough, a fourth Rodian appeared. This one seemed a bit tougher and was the first of the four to offer some lip (when you threaten to kill him, he replies, "You can try.") So I did. Now I think they've run out of Rodians, and the door is left unguarded. I still can't get in, of course, but at least no one's standing outside tempting me to whack them. Regardless, the whole thing was silly, but an amusing touch. Anyone else find anything like that?

Does anyone know how Handmaiden's poem about personal shields goes? This is the "bonus" dialogue you get for a third playthrough after playing LS and DS once each.

T3 "losing time" is Obsidian's explanation for why he was level 20+ in the first game and only level 5 or whatever now...he's been through a lot, lost some of his programming and parts, etc. etc. and hence he's de-leveled. Same for HK I think, and for Mandalore the excuse is that he's getting old.

NPC backstories - feel free to contribute (chock full o' spoilers, read at your own risk) So I recently beat the game, and while I like the idea of the influence system, its implementation leaves a bit to be desired. Most people take their 'ideal' group through 90% of the content and only use the other characters when necessary (I mean seriously, what's the deal with running T3 all the time?) On the other hand, there are some pretty interesting backstories that I missed out on, and wanted to find out the stories of the rest of the NPCs, without having to play through it again while switching characters in and out all the time. It might make the storyline a bit more comprehensible. What I learned so far, as a LS male Exile...please contribute your own, whether of different NPCs or different perspectives due to gender/side, corrections, etc. Kreia: former Jedi Master turned Sith Lord Darth Traya, she was betrayed at Malachor by Sion and Nihilus (there's a cutscene of Sion beating on her when you unlock enough influence and ask her what she really is, Jedi or Sith). She hates the Force and turns to the exile because the exile is the only one who has ever walked away from the Force and survived, thus becoming a 'wound' in the Force. In you Kreia sees the death of the Force, and thus trains/keeps you safe in the hopes that you will carry out that purpose. As a LS character, she kills the gathered Jedi Council after they threaten to shut you off from the Force (Jedi Masters seem a tad weak). She then goes to Telos to reveal Atris' corruption, and finally off to Malachor to await you for the last battle. You kill her in the end, after she gives you a rundown on your future companions. And yes, the ending was a bit rushed. Atton: Did not use him, but from what I understand he's a former Sith Assassin who killed lots of Jedi and got sick of it. Has Echani training that the Handmaiden sisters remark upon. More details? Handmaiden: Her mother was a Jedi, so she has a different face than the rest of her sisters, which is shameful. She is also the 'last' of the handmaidens because she's distracted by her studies of Jedi lore. Since she's Force sensitive, you can train her and turn her into a Jedi, which draws the ire of Atris and the Handmaiden's sisters. After Kreia kills the Jedi Council and knocks you out, Handmaiden takes Kreia back to Telos. There is a great scene where her sisters attack her. She draws her weapon/ignites her lightsaber, the screen goes dark, and then fades in to the last of the sisters falling over dead. When the exile come back out after the confrontation with Atris, Handmaiden reveals her name: Brianna. A shame Obsidian didn't update her dialogue afterward. I could not unlock the influence question where you ask her about Atris, any details? Visas: Darth Nihilus' apprentice, a blind woman who sees through the Force. Her influence trees are pretty easy to unlock: her planet and everything on it was destroyed by Nihilus because Jedi gathered there, and in that moment of nothingness she almost went mad. Nihilus took her in and bent her to his will, using her to find more Force users/planets to devour. She comes to you because she realizes that you experienced the same thing she did (the destruction of a planet and all life). If you 'romance' her, she admits her love for you (wanting to feel what Handmaiden feels when she sees you) and there's a scene where the two of you look at each other with the Force. When you go on to the Ravager, you can find her room (complete with a not-so-comfy-looking stone bed). She asks to meditate in it for a bit and comes to terms with her planet's destruction, giving her a small stat boost. Bao-Dur: Didn't use him. He was cool but I couldn't find any dialogue trees after the first few. He does upgrade T3, remote, and G0-T0 sometime during the game. Was he the one who made the first gravity bomb to destroy Malachor? The whole bomb thing kind of came out of the blue. Mira: a former Mandalorian slave turned bounty hunter. She once saved Hanharr's life when he was fighting her, which made him owe her a life debt and drove him mad, so he's been hunting her ever since. For some reason on Malachor, she finds herself alone on the planet and Kreia sics Hanharr after her for one last battle. Tough fight, but I chose to let him live in the end and he threatened to continue hunting Mira forever. She grew up(?) on Nar Shaddaa and could feel the life pulsing through the planet, which allows you to train her as a Jedi after enough influence. G0-T0: Did not use him. I mean, come on, he's a ball. And not even a cool ball, like Remote. Just a big ugly ball. Apparently the droid is the real thing and Goto the Exchange boss is just a front. Any more details? Any point at all to this character? T3-M4: Did not use him. But apparently Revan took the Ebon Hawk and T3 out to the Outer Rim, then sent the droid back. The secret of where Revan went is locked in the navicomputer and that's why T3 zaps HK-47 in the little cutscene. If you gain enough influence with him, I understand he shows a holo of Bastila, anyone know what it is? HK-47: Didn't use him. Would have liked to, except I was playing light side. I understand he gives his experiences of serving Revan and mocks Kotor1's NPCs pretty well...anyone want to share? Mandalore: Only used him a bit. Obviously he's Canderous Ordo from the first game. After going to the Outer Rim. Revan told Canderous to stay behind and rebuild the Maladorians for the upcoming war. I didn't gain any influence with him since I was light side, any more details? Kotor1 cameos: Bastila: If you're LS (and Revan was LS male, I think), after talking with Carth (where he tells you, "if you find Revan, tell him Admiral Onasi is following his orders), Bastila will appear after the exile leaves the room and wonder aloud where Revan went...very touching. What does her holocron in the Sith Academy reveal if you can see it? And why on earth was it DS only? That's all I can remember. One place where I think Obsidian dropped the ball is that some backstories seem required to simply understand the storyline, so if you don't unlock them you're pretty much clueless. For example: Kreia, who I would never have unlocked if it werent for a bug...Bao-Dur too? that whole gravity bomb thing threw me for a loop...T3, who makes the entire series of events leading to Kotor2 much clearer, and so on. Influence should have only been used for the character's individual backstory, not something pretty important to the plotline and definitely not something that would make the entire story muddled if you didn't unlock it. I preferred Kotor1's system of leveling and talking, since I'm lazy, though suppose I understand the reasons for Obsidian's implementation (replayability). Anyway, do please share what you know about the other characters, would definitely like to hear it.