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Alright, then I take my comment back. For a moment I felt that you were downplaying the significance of the bugs a bit. Because how can a bug-ridden game still feel so damn good? I'm not even sure there are people here who deny the existence of the bugs. I think it all comes down to how much significance you put on the bugs. There are people who can enjoy the game despite the bugs. And there are people who declare the game to be unplayable and be broken because of the bugs. But I haven't yet seen people who refuse outright that there are any bugs in the game at all. What I have seen is people being labelled "fanboys" in order to make their opinion invalid. But hopefully that is going to stop now, with Amentep's post in mind. My opinion is that YES the bugs should be mentioned in reviews. Also it is okay to give the game a lower score because of the bugs. BUT then I would hope that the reviewer updates their review as soon as the devs fix the bugs. I think that'd be fair.

So in my opinion, they could look at Storm of Zehir for that too. I found the overland map there to be more eventful and immersive. And for me it had more atmosphere, too.

Careful, careful, careful! You're close to stepping into fanboying territory here! You say the game feels so damn good despite all the bugs! That's what a fanboy would do.

Ummm... Yes, we of course are only looking at this game because this is a PoE II section of the Obsidian games forum, and it's this particular game's companions the OP has a problem with? Why would we even bring other subsets into this. That's my very point. The OP is focusing on one subset only. Namely on that one, of which the statement is true, that the majority of the people are not heterosexual. And I'm trying to show you that you can make that statement always true. It just depends on how you choose the subset. If you want to make the statement true that THE majority of a group of people is not heterosexual, then you will only look at groups of people of which the majority is not heterosexual. The OP chose that specific subset for that very reason to make that statement true. And then be able to complain about it.

What are the chances that a character becomes a watcher? What are the chances not only does he become a watcher but also a watcher with an awakened soul? And yet 100% of the main characters are a watcher with an awakened soul. What are the chances to win the lottery? And yet 100% of the winners of the lottery have won the lottery. And THAT is what you are doing. Of course you would never question how unlikely it is to become a watcher with an awakened soul. Or how unlikely it is to win the lottery. I'd guess those topics are not interesting enough. No you want to focus on one topic alone. There may be so many unlikely things be happening in the real world or in all fantasy worlds combined. And of all the unlikely things ever happening, you only focus on this one topic. And that's what I've been trying to say all along. You disregard everything else. Just so that you can complain about this one thing.

Also let's keep in mind that we are only looking at this game. Look at all the video games ever made that feature companions. Do you think THE majority of ALL companions of ALL video games ever made are gay or not gay? You only look at those subsets in which there is a majority of non heterosexual people. You disregard all other subsets. And then you complain how unrealistic that is. There may be a few other games where the majority of companions is not hetero. But I'd wager all in all, games where the majority of the companions are not hetero - are the minority in fact. But of course you only want to focus on the games where the majority of the companions is not hetero only so that you can complain about it.

As an example. You have a set of 100 people. 95 of them are hetero. 5 of them are gay. You pick a group of 5 people out of those 100 with the condition that only gay people are in that group. Then you regard that group. Well 100% of that group are gay! That is THE majority! How can that be?! Even though only 5% of the population were gay!

Are you familiar with the political term "gerrymandering"? This is what some of you are doing. You see a group of people. The majority of them is heterosexual. The minority is not. And what you do is to divide these people into subsets, so that there are more subsets with a majority of non-heterosexual people. And then you claim that THE majority is not heterosexual. In this concrete context, you simply dismiss all the characters in the game outside of the party. Five out of seven companions are bisexual. That is THE majority. The majority of what? You are dismissing all the other people in the game just so you can make that statement. Also you are showing that you have no knowledge of statistics at all. If let's say 5% of a population were gay that does not mean that whichever random group of people you pick out of that population, that no more than 5% of people of that chosen group can be gay. That is not how statistics work.

And here we have it, Ladies and Gentlemen! This is what I was speaking of. This is what I was expecting. Obsidian getting called out for having an AGENDA! No multiple AGENDAS actually! It was only a matter of time.

Because god forbid somebody will complain that they can't romance anybody with anybody But now somebody might complain that everyone is bisexual and sex mad! If only Obsidian would find a way to please everyone. Yeah that's what they tried by making everyone bisexual. But they didn't take into account the people who would dislike that.

There Sonic, in your face! I dare you, call me fanboy again! C'mon I know you want to. How long can you resist? @Sonic, what you are doing is the very same thing that you accuse so called fanboys of. Just the exact opposite. Fanboys are immune to any kind of criticism of the thing that they are fanboy of. And you are immune to any kind of positive review of Pillars of Eternity 2 on this forum. Just as a fanboy would dismiss all negative reviews. You are dismissing all positive ones. Then it is no wonder actually how you can draw the conclusion that the majority of reviews is negative. Because you don't take the positive reviews into any account at all. You deny their existence just as a fanboy would deny the existence of any negative review. You're not so different from me. Scary thought, isn't it?

I am a fanboy of Pillars of Eternity 2 Deadfire. But that's not all! I am a fanboy despite having not even played the game yet! Bummer! But that's not all either! I am a fanboy because I question how a "huge improvement" between two games can be expressed by giving both games the score of zero. Label using is so fun isn't it. Just label anyone a "fanboy" and you can dismiss their opinion as invalid, unworthy, not important or biased without having to explain anything. So there is just one thing I have to do. Find a label for you and call you that! And then I could easily dismiss your opinion in a similar way. But the weather is just too nice outside today. I'll leave this for a rainy day to do Have fun! Enjoy the day!

Check this out!

So what does that mean for the score of Pillars 1? There aren't negative scores. Should there be an exception for Pillars 1? From all the games, ever made and criticized on Metacritic, Pillars 1 should be the one where a negative score should be allowed? Or how would you like to express the "huge improvement" of Deadfire over Pillars 1? The improvement is so huge, that a score of 0 is warranted for both games? No, that does not explain it. You said "might". So your sentence can be interpreted that way that you think it's rather unlikely that the guy actually went out of proportions with his criticism.

Uhm... *giggle* That is... That is good to know...

Thank you! That's what I was hoping for! Of course eventually I will only see if I agree or disagree with that when I play the game myself. But at the moment I don't have time. I really hope I will see Tekehu the same way!

Different tastes for different folks. And that's perfectly fine. It doesn't sound at all that Deadfire is your kind of game. And that's okay. I'd say time to move on.

Yeah, that is a shame, really. Something should be done about that. I know the work should not be left for the Italian gamers to do. But if they find Italian translation errors maybe there should be someone they can send the corrections to? It should not be just left in that state if it's really so bad!

Ciao! Sono tedesco. Ho cominciato a imparare la lingua italiana un anno fa. Che bella lingua! Mi piace molto! Consequently, I like the Valian Dialect a lot, too, of course. And I always try to find the corresponding Italian word. Just as you said, when they say "belfetto" I think of "perfetto"!

So this is your weapon? https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Griffin%27s_Blade I like the story for it But that was not your original story? What was your story then?

That's interesting. For the very reason that I'm more at home in my native language I don't want to play in it. Because I use games as a mean of escapism. And to escape even better it helps me when I leave my native language also behind. Playing in my native language constantly reminds me that I'm still "here" and not "there". But that's very subjective and it's just me. I can see how people could feel right the other way around.

How about this? https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Category:Pillars_of_Eternity_II:_Deadfire_unique_weapons

I'm not sure if that comparison works. It is the developers responsibility to fix the bugs and to make it run on all the devices it is supposed to run on. That is not your responsibility, obviously. The game offers a lot of quests with a lot of dialogues. But the game also offers a lot of combats. You as the player, would like to see more combats. So what you do is to seek out more dialogue-heavy quests and avoid combats. And then you are annoyed at seeing more dialogue-heavy quests and no combats... If the game offers both, lots of dialogues, but also lots of combats, and you prefer combats then it is your job to seek out the combats. And people in this thread have given you enough advice on how to do that.

You don't see the bugs that were fixed prior to release. You don't have any knowledge at all how many and which bugs were fixed during that extra time. It's more reasonable to assume the game would have had a lot more bugs if it had been released one month earlier than to assume that the one extra month did nothing good at all. You have no way of comparing the state of the game from one month before release to the state of the game right at release.

One more negative review, this time from Metacritic again. The spoiler reveals if a certain companion is romanceable or not. Click at your own risk! I could post this in the romance threads in the spoiler section, however, I've had a very unpleasant time there. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if some people from that thread agree with that review above. The review rates the whole game with that score based on that one fact... Also, I'm not trying to make romance the topic of this thread. If you would like to discuss romance options in the game, please go here and join this thread. Good luck...